kblo247 wrote:There is no resurgence as long as he plays PF. Odom was the damn PF those titles and finals runs, logged most the minutes, defended the spot, and put up the numbers there, the first year Pau was truly a 4 for us was Phil's last year because Bynum was healthy, and Pau killed this team as a liability and had become a bigger offensive and defensive liability there. His only future as a Laker is that of C if Dwight leaves
When did you become a Laker fan? I don't quite understand.
Bynum and Pau started..but Odom played for Bynum to finish games with Pau during those championship years.
It was Pau who had a crazy double double game in game 7 vs the Celtics that gave us the last final lift we needed because yeah..Kobe was 6/24..did I mention he out-rebounded the whole Celtic frontline by himself? Seriously like I said i know he hasn't been the Pau we been accustomed to during that 2-peat. He's declining faster than usual, but at the end of the day he DELIVERED IT. HE BROUGHT 2 MORE TITLES UM HELLO ITS UP IN THE RAFTERS OF STAPLES CENTER. KOBE HAS 5 TITLES INSTEAD OF 3. (Kobe was MVP but Kobe wouldn't have won without Pau) Yall are seriously forgetting how big Pau was for us during that run. We made the finals 3 straight years and won 2 championships after he got here, it's no coincidence.
What I'm really trying to get at is fine, if users wanna make amateur trade ideas, go for it. But don't disrepect Pau as the player. Lol it's also funny how users here would throw trade offers that usually only benefit the Lakers end too, just to show how much value they think Pau can land the Lakers.
Bynum was starter in name only during the postseasons, and series like versus the Jazz he wasnt even that as Odom got put in the starting unit and Walton was placed on Milsap because drew couldn't keep up
Pau logged considerably more Center minutes than Bynum in the 09 and 10 playoffs, Odom logged more PF Minutes than Pau the 09 and 10 playoffs. Bynum logged 15-20 minutes and provided numbers Luc Longley could better, lets not twist facts. He was a top 3 C in the league during those title runs along with Duncan and Dwight. And I truly believe he can make a run for a top5-10 center in the league still, but he ain't close to a top 15 PF and hasn't been the past 3 years
The first playoff run Pau saw significant PF time was in 11 when Landry destroyed him and Dirk bent him over much like his last playoff series ever in Memphis. And yes Landry did destroy him to the point they doubled every trip down, but the Hornets being Ariza and Jack missed the 3s the Mavs hit. And yes Dirk destoryed him, shot over 60% vs Pau, and to make matters worse we paid for every bit of help we tried to give. Bynum was healthy those playoffs so Phil had to truly play him and it cost the team. It exposed Pau for being too soft, too slow, and too unathletic. I also exposed his lack of a jumper and the fact he had no idea to defend on the perimeter as he solely got us swept by Dallas with his fouling dirk up 1 in a two profession game 30 feet out intentionally with none to give much the shock of every laker player, coach, and fan in staples.
Then Pau played the next two seasons primarily at PF full time as well as these last tow abysmal playoff runs where he was and is a detriment because he can't defend the spot, not can he offensively score from it to force himself to be accounted for with a respectable jump shot.
Pau just isn't a PF. He never truly was as a Laker. Bynum stayed hurt, so Pau always had the luxury his first 2.5 years here as a Center with Odom logging most the PF minutes and leaving he paint alone to him. It was never a secret that Bynum and Pau both played better with Odom than one another. I was never a secret that the team has always functioned better with one big and Lamar during their glory, and that even goes for Kobe whose jumper and inside scoring see a rise when one of Pau/Bynum were out there with Lamar while the other was off the floor not clogging up the paint.
Plus the fact is undeniable last year Metta was a better 4 than Pau. We had top 5 best defensive numbers in the league with Metta at the 4 and Dwight at the 5 without Pau out there, that's how bad Pau was out there next to Dwight, how vulnerable he made us, and why the reports were that he would be amnestied if Dwight returned.
Now as far as the other question, I first saw my first laker game I can remember in 95 with Nick and Eddie, and then I saw my first game in person which was sl with Kobe and fish that summer. Following them ever since, including taking the 190 hit since I moved to Louisiana for school and work