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Re: Pau Discussion: Super Pau-er!

Postby LakersN4 on Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:47 pm

earvinfr wrote:the only player we can trade and get something in return are Blake, Kaman and Hill. There's other one but I don't want them to be traded.

Would add Meeks & Pau to the list.. we should be trying to trade every single 1 of them. Hill's going to get paid enough that keeping him is going to prevent us from signing real star players.. Pau isn't worth the money he'll command in free agency, atleast not to a team at the stage we're in.. Blake & Meeks have both had their value inflated thanks to D'antoni's system & we could sell high.. & even if Kaman got minutes after a Pau/Hill trade or something, the first half of the season is going to be enough to convince him to sign elsewhere in the summer. All 5 of them need to be dealt. Build the best packages you can from the combinations. I'd ship all 5 of them out for Melo & Chandler.
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Postby Slurpee22 on Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:06 pm

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ROFL, we just can't catch a break.... now we have the excuse not to trade him...
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Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:46 pm

If he is indeed injured it's a fitting end to the Gasol legacy here….. he is truly a "teflon don" when it comes to being traded.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Super Pau-er!

Postby abeer3 on Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:46 pm

eh, we saw what a pau trade could net, so who cares? also, this helps the lakers lose more, which has become absolutely crucial. if they just play down to their talent level for the rest of the year, they could get a pick in the top 6 or 7. that would be very good.

but if they scrape together some wins, they'll end up picking 10 or later, which would make this season a real waste in pretty much every way possible.
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Postby Slurpee22 on Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:49 pm

Rooscooter wrote:If he is indeed injured it's a fitting end to the Gasol legacy here….. he is truly a "teflon don" when it comes to being traded.


I hope we can still trade him, even if he's on the IL past the trade deadline... this season is becoming a comical and sad at the same time... I think the Lakers knew it was gonna be a mediocre season when they gave out 1-year deals... but this is awful.
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Re: Pau Discussion: Super Pau-er!

Postby karacha on Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:19 pm

Regardless of his level of play this season -- if he's out for a significant amount of time, prepare to see L after L... I'm not sure exactly how many losses in a row we can get, but I'm sure it's going to be an impressive number.

So far, we have no: Nash, Blake, Farmar, Kobe, Henry, Pau. And Kaman was battling some soreness and ankle issues. If anyone else goes down, it will be pretty fascinating to watch the rest of the team play and lose game after game. Only our power forwards have been somewhat healthy.
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Postby Kobe Bryant 8 on Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:43 pm

I want to talk this season. If you can't win it all, build for a future win.
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Postby revgen on Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:31 pm

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Pau Gasol's MRI shows moderate strain in big toe of his left foot. considered game time decision vs Cleveland


Uh oh! Pau's got Shaq's big toe!
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Postby karacha on Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:32 pm

He's going to recover on company time. :man1:
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Postby Battle Tested20 on Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:33 pm

yeah.........

That's not going to get better anytime soon
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Postby Slurpee22 on Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:26 am

Time for free-falling Lakers to let go of Pau Gasol

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Good article, by SI writer Lee Jenkins.
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Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:35 am

Hu humm :freak2:
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Postby Slurpee22 on Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:40 am

I'm guessing you didn't like the article? but then again maybe you are to sober in the morning LOL
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Postby khmrP on Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:06 am

he missed like what 3-4 games with a respitory infection? With a "real" injury like this, I expect 2 months and with our medical staff 3 months at the earliest :man10:
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Postby Balance&Options24 on Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:28 pm

Good read.



Time for free-falling Lakers to let go of Pau Gasol




















Dwight Howard, Pau Gasol

The departure of Dwight Howard to Houston hasn't rejuvenated Pau Gasol's career as expected.

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During a timeout late in Game 3 of the 2011 Western Conference semifinals, Phil Jackson and Pau Gasol stood in front of the Lakers bench at American Airlines Center, and Jackson popped him in the chest. The gesture, startling given Jackson's Zen reputation, signaled the end of an era. The Mavericks swept the Lakers, Jackson retired, and a renovation commenced. The Lakers tried trading Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom to New Orleans, but the deal was famously vetoed, so the makeover ceased halfway. The Lakers dumped Odom on the Mavs but kept Gasol, always loyal yet never the same. It was hard to decipher, though, how much of his decline had to do with forces out of his control. The Lakers hired Mike Brown, who ran the offense through Andrew Bynum, and replaced him with Mike D'antoni, who showcased Dwight Howard. Gasol was marooned in the high post.

With Howard in Houston, and Gasol in a contract year, the Lakers braced for a renaissance. In some ways, coaches preferred Gasol to Howard, because he is a superior passer and more accurate shooter. They envisioned him running pick-and-rolls with Steve Nash, rebuilding his career the same way as so many old Suns, through one perfectly threaded bounce pass at a time. But Nash has played six games, the Lakers have churned through six point guards, and Gasol appears unable to stop their slide. How much responsibility he bears is a question that the Lakers -- and any team in the market for a supremely skilled seven-footer for the stretch run -- will have to answer by the trading deadline Feb. 20.

POWER RANKINGS: Lakers down to No. 23 in latest ranks

It is a strange testament to Jackson just how far some members of the '11 Lakers have fallen without his guidance. Odom, the former Sixth Man of the Year, isn't in the NBA anymore. Bynum, an All-Star in '12, was waived last week. Gasol, a two-time champion and future Hall of Famer who used to deliver 18 points and 10 rebounds on a near nightly basis, is down to 15.6 points even though he's often the only credible option on offense. The subject of trade talks for the past two years, Gasol reportedly could not fetch Dion Waiters or a late first-round pick from the Cavaliers, when they were trying to discard Bynum. Gasol is 33, with a long history of deep playoff runs and international minutes, and the tread shows. He's missed time this season with a sprained ankle and was diagnosed Monday with a moderate strain of the flexor tendon in his left big toe. He is questionable for Tuesday's game against the Cavs, who opted for Luol Deng over Gasol.

Still, Gasol is arguably the only legitimate asset the Lakers have left, even if the main reason is his $19.3 million expiring contract. Under normal circumstances, with the Cavs trade falling through, the Lakers would be wise to hold Gasol until the deadline. They'd let him build back some of his value, which is very possible, considering his numbers have improved every month of the season and he's topped 18 points per game in January. However, the threat of Gasol's emergence is one thing standing between the Lakers and a truly wretched record, which would theoretically yield a genuinely lofty draft pick. The sooner the Lakers ship Gasol, the worse they'll be, which means the better they'll be, in this backwards NBA season.

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The Lakers are currently 14-23, with only the eighth-worst record in the league, but they are slipping fast. They've lost 10 of 11 games, fell by 36 on Friday to the Clippers, and are about to embark on a seven-game road trip, after which Kobe Bryant and Nash may be ready to return. If the Lakers exile Gasol and don't rush Bryant or Nash, they could easily drop behind Sacramento and Utah, into the basement of the Western Conference. They may never be as lean as their Eastern counterparts -- Milwaukee, Philadelphia and Orlando -- but those clubs also have easier schedules. By virtue of being in the West, the Lakers should lose a lot of games in the second half, and therefore earn many ping pong balls.

Things often work out for the Lakers even when it seems they don't. This could go down as the worst season in the history of the franchise, but it comes at the best time: they actually own their first-round pick, a rarity given their lust for veteran headliners, and the draft is as stocked as it's been at any point in the past decade. There may not be another LeBron James or Kevin Durant, but every general manager in the top-seven can hope for a transformational player. The Lakers, unlike some other NBA stragglers, did not try to tank. Kobe Bryant came back from the torn Achilles and broke a bone in his knee. Jordan Farmar tore one part of his left hamstring and then another. Nash tried to play through nerve damage. The tank has been forced upon them. They may finally realize, after this seven-game haul, that they can't fight it anymore. The tank is not in their heart but it is in their interest.

Change-of-scenery is among the most overused catchphrases in sports, but Gasol could use one, even if he doesn't want it. Only two years have passed since he single-handedly kept Spain competitive against Team USA in the gold medal game at the Olympics. He could fit with virtually any contender because he is willing to defer, savors play-making as much as scoring, and rarely complains about anything that doesn't involve D'Antoni. There's little doubt that, someday, Gasol's jersey will hang in the rafters at Staples Center. He out-dueled Howard for the championship in '09, Kevin Garnett in '10, and made it possible for Bryant to capture two titles without Shaquille O'Neal. But that era ended nearly three years ago, in Dallas, with a shot to the chest and a sweep to the side. The Lakers went halfway on their renovation. The time has come to complete it.


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Re: Pau Discussion: Super Pau-er!

Postby Weezy on Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:02 pm

There's nothing in that article that wasn't fair or didn't make sense, he even gave us a pass for not tanking on purpose but it being a circumstance of mostly injury and age. So this is about what, the 20th time it's time to let go of Pau, I can't even see it happening.

As for his injury, I don't mean to be harsh, but big toe? If this is almost any other big in the NBA do we even hear about it, like is it even announced? He's a game time decision with a hurt big toe? I assume most players in the NBA are playing nightly with some foot pain, I mean 82 games a season at least, come on Pau. We suck if we do have Pau, but without him it's another level of suck, don't leave the young guys hanging to get beat down Pau.
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Postby Kangaroo Grandkid on Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:17 pm

revgen wrote:
@MarkG_Medina 4m

Pau Gasol's MRI shows moderate strain in big toe of his left foot. considered game time decision vs Cleveland


Uh oh! Pau's got Shaq's big toe!


Too bad he doesn't have Shaq's big game.
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Postby Kangaroo Grandkid on Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:24 pm

Weezy wrote:There's nothing in that article that wasn't fair or didn't make sense, he even gave us a pass for not tanking on purpose but it being a circumstance of mostly injury and age. So this is about what, the 20th time it's time to let go of Pau, I can't even see it happening.

As for his injury, I don't mean to be harsh, but big toe? If this is almost any other big in the NBA do we even hear about it, like is it even announced? He's a game time decision with a hurt big toe? I assume most players in the NBA are playing nightly with some foot pain, I mean 82 games a season at least, come on Pau. We suck if we do have Pau, but without him it's another level of suck, don't leave the young guys hanging to get beat down Pau.


One of the other toes, sure. But your big toe is actually pretty important. I injured mine and I had a hard time just walking. I couldn't tell how high I was lifting my leg and I kept tripping over my own feet. I had to spend a lot of effort just watching myself walk and looked like a real goof (I mean, more than normal). Of course, I was getting paid $20M. If I was, I'm sure I could've figured it out.
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Postby D.B. Cooper on Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:09 pm

Kobe Bryant 8 wrote:I want to talk this season. If you can't win it all, build for a future win.


That's what this forum is for, to talk about the season.
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Postby therealdeal on Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:38 pm

Kangaroo Grandkid wrote:
Weezy wrote:There's nothing in that article that wasn't fair or didn't make sense, he even gave us a pass for not tanking on purpose but it being a circumstance of mostly injury and age. So this is about what, the 20th time it's time to let go of Pau, I can't even see it happening.

As for his injury, I don't mean to be harsh, but big toe? If this is almost any other big in the NBA do we even hear about it, like is it even announced? He's a game time decision with a hurt big toe? I assume most players in the NBA are playing nightly with some foot pain, I mean 82 games a season at least, come on Pau. We suck if we do have Pau, but without him it's another level of suck, don't leave the young guys hanging to get beat down Pau.


One of the other toes, sure. But your big toe is actually pretty important. I injured mine and I had a hard time just walking. I couldn't tell how high I was lifting my leg and I kept tripping over my own feet. I had to spend a lot of effort just watching myself walk and looked like a real goof (I mean, more than normal). Of course, I was getting paid $20M. If I was, I'm sure I could've figured it out.

Yeah Shaq had a toe injury that needed some time to heal as I recall... and I'm sure at that height a toe injury can be bothersome...

But the point is that these guys are all banged up. As a soldier, you're not going to complain to your buddies that you've got a flesh wound when there's a battle still raging.
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Postby Lakerjones on Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:48 pm

Pau is playing pretty well thus far.
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Postby lukewaltonsdad on Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:42 pm

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Pau on foot: "It's sore. But I want to be out there for my guys. I feel like I did okay"
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Postby Weezy on Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:47 pm

If it hurts so bad he can't play I get that, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I'm glad he played and I'm glad he feels and basically said that if he can play and not leave these young guys to get slaughtered without a veteran leader, then he will play. That's all I want from him, if he can play with the pain, play.
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Postby S.R.05 on Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:01 am

^sick assist. now please go sit down for the next ~10 games pau
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