Pau Discussion: Pau-dini escapes another trade deadline!

Would you re-sign Pau for ~7 million per?

Yes
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33%
No
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55%
Maybe (explain)
12
10%
 
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Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:32 am

Trade him now! The guy obviously is full of excuses now...he plays like a beast for Spain, yet when the season starts he just keep stealing money from the Lakers.

Dude is done as a Laker. If Minny, Raps and Toronto want him, Mitch should trade him. I wouldn't be surprise if he plays well for them, he just isn't motivated to play here anymore.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (out indefinitely for now, d2d p.222)

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:51 am

Lakers trade - Pau / Blake / Meeks / Ebanks
Lakers get - Wesley Matthews / DWill / Barea / Hickson

Minny trades - DWill / Pek / Barea / 1st
Minny gets - Pau / Ebanks

Portland trades - Matthews / Hickson
Portland gets - Pek / Meeks / Blake / 1st

Nash / Barea
Kobe / Matthews
MWP / DWill
Jamison / Hickson
D12 / Hill
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Postby GoldenKnight on Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:00 am

Keep Pau until we see what he can do with Nash
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Postby GoldenKnight on Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:01 am

Doc Brown wrote:Lakers trade - Pau / Blake / Meeks / Ebanks
Lakers get - Wesley Matthews / DWill / Barea / Hickson

Minny trades - DWill / Pek / Barea / 1st
Minny gets - Pau / Ebanks

Portland trades - Matthews / Hickson
Portland gets - Pek / Meeks / Blake / 1st

Nash / Barea
Kobe / Matthews
MWP / DWill
Jamison / Hickson
D12 / Hill


Hickson/DWill/Matthews/Barea < Pau/Meeks/Blake/Ebanks
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Postby Punk-101 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:34 am

Bryant said. "I just don't want him to sulk about the change of things."


Now can we stop with the "Pau is playing with heart and it's just his knees that are limiting him" talk?

His knees are bothering him, obviously, but to what degree? But also, he is sulking.
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Postby hollywood swinger on Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:30 am

nikola pekovic? :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10: trash!!! khan trying to fleece mitch. not gonna happen t-puppies :disagree:
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Postby kenzo on Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:37 am

Lol at the Bargnani trade idea :man10: I can't blame people for not watching the Raptors but... REALY :freak2: Dude is a chucker and never, i repeat NEVER in his 7 NBA seasons had more than 9 rebounds :man10: How pathetic is that? Williams sucks as well.
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Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:53 am

The Montenegrin bulldozer aka the big rhinoceros aka Nikola Pekovic is trash ? :man10:

At this point I'd take him over Pau even if his skillset is limited .. but he's tough to move in the paint and a good finisher around the rim ...
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (out indefinitely for now, d2d p.222)

Postby Lakerfantilidie on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:01 am

I'm a big Pau supporter so I really don't want to see him traded. However, we need to improve the team. So I think the Lakers are bending the truth a little bit about waiting to see if he works out with Nash. I think they are waiting for December 16th. After the 15th of December there will be more options in trading because players who can't be traded now can be then. There can be a three or 4 team trade that works that I really think they are targeting Ryan Anderson. Right now Anderson is a better player both in spreading the floor & rebounding. So to me as a Pau supporter if the Lakers can bring a trade that brings in Anderson and Calderon or Anderson & Ridenour & some picks and fillers I'm on board.
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Postby easyguy on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:06 am

Sometimes we are a talent blackhole, they do well on their teams right now, they come here and watch Kobe play. :man9:
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Postby khmrP on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:27 am

actually if Minn gave us Pek/Dwill and a pick, I would flip the pick/Pek to NOH for Anderson. Pek is bull dozer type of C that would fit really well next to Davis. Pek is cheap enough for NOH to take a flyer on, he is quite a commodity right now. Dont think he would fit here as a PF and bringing him off the bench would kill his effectiveness/value altogether.
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Postby XXIV on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:30 am

I'd rather take the Raptors deal over Minnesota's. However, if we could somehow get say AK and Barea from Minny I'd much rather do that.
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Postby Rooscooter on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:32 am

hollywood swinger wrote:nikola pekovic? :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10: trash!!! khan trying to fleece mitch. not gonna happen t-puppies :disagree:


Don't watch many T-Wolves games huh?....

Pek is a blue collar, don't need touches to be effective type of player that we desperately need. Nash made Gortat very effective and these two are very similar players.

Getting Williams in the deal would put some desperately needed youth on this team that actually belongs in the NBA as well.

I don't have the NBA salaries page bookmarked like a lot here do.... do these two combined even come close to what Pau is making? I thought any trade of Pau would need to bring back nearly 20 million in salaries. Williams is on a Rookie deal (5 Mill or so) and Pek can't be making much more than that so it would seem that we'd be 10 million short or so on this from a financial standpoint.
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Postby XXIV on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:36 am

Rooscooter wrote:
hollywood swinger wrote:nikola pekovic? :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10: trash!!! khan trying to fleece mitch. not gonna happen t-puppies :disagree:


Don't watch many T-Wolves games huh?....

Pek is a blue collar, don't need touches to be effective type of player that we desperately need. Nash made Gortat very effective and these two are very similar players.

Getting Williams in the deal would put some desperately needed youth on this team that actually belongs in the NBA as well.

I don't have the NBA salaries page bookmarked like a lot here do.... do these two combined even come close to what Pau is making? I thought any trade of Pau would need to bring back nearly 20 million in salaries. Williams is on a Rookie deal (5 Mill or so) and Pek can't be making much more than that so it would seem that we'd be 10 million short or so on this from a financial standpoint.


Both players make around 4.8M each, I don't see how the salaries would work unless they include AK.
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Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:36 am

^^^^ add Pek and Williams salaries and you are around 9.6 millions

Pek will be FA this summer , Williams has a team option in 2014-2015 and is restricted FA the season after
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Postby khmrP on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:40 am

I want that other Russian SG Minn has (Shved) :man10: , dude is shaping up to be a mini AK now, his fg% is awful for a guard but he's a stat filler across the boards.
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Postby Lakerfantilidie on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:41 am

I think if the Lakers were clever enough to put a deal together that reunited Pau & Calderon together with Rubio, we could get a deal done that lands us Ryan Anderson & Luke Ridenour and a player or two to fill in some help to our bench, Minnesota would be more than happy to be a main trade parter to help pull off any deal that would bring those two in here.
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Postby khmrP on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:44 am

Lakerfantilidie wrote:I think if the Lakers were clever enough to put a deal together that reunited Pau & Calderon together with Rubio, we could get a deal done that lands us Ryan Anderson & Luke Ridenour and a player or two to fill in some help to our bench, Minnesota would be more than happy to be a main trade parter to help pull off any deal that would bring those two in here.


there is no way this is even remotely possible unless Minn wants to trade their entire team, Pau/Calderon together are nearly $30mill this year, Minn two biggest contract (love/ak) barely add up to $21mill, barely matching Pau contract by himself.
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Postby Lakerfantilidie on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:48 am

khmrP wrote:
Lakerfantilidie wrote:I think if the Lakers were clever enough to put a deal together that reunited Pau & Calderon together with Rubio, we could get a deal done that lands us Ryan Anderson & Luke Ridenour and a player or two to fill in some help to our bench, Minnesota would be more than happy to be a main trade parter to help pull off any deal that would bring those two in here.


there is no way this is even remotely possible unless Minn wants to trade their entire team, Pau/Calderon together are nearly $30mill this year, Minn two biggest contract (love/ak) barely add up to $21mill, barely matching Pau contract by himself.

Wow didn't know Calderon was making that much, with that being said, I still think we could land Ridenour & Anderson with Minnesota as a trade partner. We know Minnesota was not opposed to taking Blake last year when we were looking to get Beasley.
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Postby dwighthowardsdad on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:51 am

I'm glad Mitch is being patient with the return of Nash to see how Gasol performs; although, I don't think that will make any difference. If Nash isn't coming back until the middle of December and Gasol is out indefinitely, how much time is that going to leave us to see how well the mesh? I hope we have enough time to evaluate because we're running out of time.

As for the trade, Minnesota always has intrigued. Pek & Williams would be interesting. Add in another wing and we might have something to work with. Williams has always interested me. He's a local kid who can provide a stretch 4 option when Jamison is on the bench. He's also very young.
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Postby khmrP on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:55 am

I dont know who Minn european scout is but dude is on point, I thougth Pek was just a goon and a scrub but has turned out to be a solid big in this league and now this Shved guy is looking better and better all the time. To bad they suck at drafting still.
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Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:57 am

LA: Ryan Anderson, Andrei Kirilenko
Minny: Gasol, Ebanks
NO: Derrick Williams, Pekovic, Darius Morris

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Postby Lakerfantilidie on Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:12 am

lakerfan2 wrote:LA: Ryan Anderson, Andrei Kirilenko
Minny: Gasol, Ebanks
NO: Derrick Williams, Pekovic, Darius Morris

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Send Blake to Minny and give us Ridenour and I'm in
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Postby khmrP on Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:14 am

Lakerfantilidie wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:LA: Ryan Anderson, Andrei Kirilenko
Minny: Gasol, Ebanks
NO: Derrick Williams, Pekovic, Darius Morris

:man1:

Send Blake to Minny and give us Ridenour and I'm in


you're already in fantasy land if you think you can get those two to LA to begin with and you want Minn to take on an injured player to boot? :man10:
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion (out indefinitely for now, d2d p.222)

Postby Lakerfantilidie on Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:20 am

I don't know that it's fantasy. It's no secret, they want Pau, how badly???? Yeah Blake is hurt, but he's coming back and will fit in nicely for them. It is not uncommon for a team to take an injured player as long as it is not something really serious like a really bad knee injury or back injury.
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