Pau Thread: Surgery a success; now rehab & rest for 12 weeks

Doc Brown wrote:

MC wrote:Don't worry guys...... the way most of you were talking of Gasol over the last few months and years this injury is CLEARLY an addition by subtraction is it not? (SARCASM)

Someone mentioned karma earlier............ oh ya............ karma indeed

Everyone wanted a trade, not for Pau to be out for the season and we have no one to replace him. Big ups for using Gasol's injury to try and make your fabulous point.

Umm I'm pretty sure it says "Clublakers.com" at the top of the screen check that one more time "CLUBLAKERS.COM" as in this is a Lakers board and not a Pau Gasol board and your rants are one of the silliest things I've still ever read.

Umm Re: Pau Gasol Discussion: $19,000,000 sixth man...guess I must be reading that wrong silly me. I've been b**ched at in the past for complaining about other players in threads that aren't there but no worries I'll just start the Pau discussion in Mettas board next time and when others wmc you can come let them know its "CLUBLAKERS.COM" Thanks for letting me know this mod

You can be hard on someone for their past transgressions, but that doesn't mean you dismiss their current success. That's just idiotic and lends creedence to the idea that people don't deserve second chances, or third chances, or fourth. Especially if at one time they provided something for society, or in this case for this team.

I don't believe in 3rd or 4th chances to people in real life either. Either you do something right or you get eliminated Gordon Gekko style PERIOD. That goes for criminals,athletes,actors etc. Mess up and pay the price untill you truly redeem yourself no its and or buts. We have a fundamentally different life philosophy I guess where as I don't believe in forgiveness or rehabilitation where as it seems that you do.

Dismissing the fact that Pau has been a great teammate, a great person, and a professional during this entire fiasco of a season is not only short sighted, but.. well... silly.

therealdeal wrote::man10: What the hell is with this high and mighty attitude like some of us should feel bad for saying Gasol was playing like **** earlier this season?

HE WAS PLAYING LIKE **** AND WE ALL EXPECTED/WANTED/NEEDED MORE FROM HIM.

I don't feel bad in the slightest for saying we would be better off without him at some points in this season. Most of us who wanted to trade him or said that we'd be better off without him were also among the people giving him a ton of credit for playing well off the bench. We were among the people that said "well if he can keep playing this way, he needs to stay".

Get the hell out of here with that ridiculous "karma" comment.

wcsoldier81 wrote:Summer 07 : Euro Final
07-08 NBA Finals
Summer 08 : Olympics Final
08-09 :NBA Finals
Summer 09 : Euro Final
09-10 NBA Finals
Summer 2010 : off
2010-2011 : 2nd round
Summer 2011 : Euro Final
2011-2012: 2nd round
Summer 2012 : Olympics Final

INSANE amount of games played these latest 6-7 seasons

MC wrote:Well i think there is a difference between a COACH miss-using a player and that player just playing like crap and lets trade him........

that is the difference..........

Trade Gasol all you want, if the coach himself is miss-using players than your issue still exists and all you did was scratch the surface to a bigger issue.

Just because I Disagree with the herd concerning this player doesn't make my position any more ridiculous than the herd's itself.

It's not like there are not successful and tested offenses out there that could be run for 2 bigs on the court... our coach and FO are CHOOSING to do otherwise regardless of the roster and window ....... big HUGE difference......

puffyusaf#2

Well now we are getting somewhere without logic. Don't praise a guy if he is producing if we don't win it all. OK, well since we haven't won in a few years I am sure you will not praise any of the other players especially Kobe during his tenure here. Doesn't matter if Kobe is racking up 15 assist and 8 boards a game it means nothing if we don't win it all.

Damn right. Who wants a 3rd place trophy anyway? Losers and losers kids thats who. Kobe has only won 5 rings in his 16 years of playing... dude is a loser. Hell Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Patrick have never won in whole careers... damn failures. It doesn't matter that we sit on our couches in our palaces being the Kings of the domain with the shirts on that have players names on it because being a couch supporter takes more talent, more energy, more skill than playing the game at the best level in the world AND at the highest on the international level as well. Spain getting that Silver in the Olympics? Toss it in the trash because if you ain't first you last. Yea Dawg, keep it logic-less.

This is Black and White... I 'll sit here in the basement with my 8 thousand dollar computer and mancave room, that mom has to get permission to come into, and call these fools out for sucking. Hell, if I didn't have nothing better to do I'd stop watching these losers all together. Screw the rainbow, screw the northern lights all it is about is 1st........ And my personalized Kobe remote control for my PS3... that's cool. Oh and moms cookies. Those are awesome. And that E-harmony and Christian mingle accounts. Don't tell me I don't know what's up. Logic R Us Yo

therealdeal wrote:

MC wrote:Well i think there is a difference between a COACH miss-using a player and that player just playing like crap and lets trade him........

that is the difference..........

Trade Gasol all you want, if the coach himself is miss-using players than your issue still exists and all you did was scratch the surface to a bigger issue.

Just because I Disagree with the herd concerning this player doesn't make my position any more ridiculous than the herd's itself.

It's not like there are not successful and tested offenses out there that could be run for 2 bigs on the court... our coach and FO are CHOOSING to do otherwise regardless of the roster and window ....... big HUGE difference......

that's just your opinion.

Whether or not our coach was using him properly doesn't excuse the fact that for a LONG stretch he wasn't playing with heart, he wasn't playing with passion, and he wasn't trying hard for our team. That was all true and we were all 100% within our right as fans of the Lakers to call him out on that.

Bad coach or not.

The numbers are staggering when combing through them: his lowest points per game (13.4), lowest field goal percentage (45.3%), lowest true shooting percentage (50.7%), lowest field goal attempts (11.4), lowest rebounds per game (8), 2nd lowest total rebound percentage (13.2), lowest usage rate (20.1), and lowest free throw percentage (70.6%). Across the board his numbers are down in nearly every facet, all adding up to the lowest PER of his career at 15.9. The last time, and only other time, Pau Gasol was under a 20 PER was his rookie season, and even then he was at 19.5.

The Rock wrote:

The numbers are staggering when combing through them: his lowest points per game (13.4), lowest field goal percentage (45.3%), lowest true shooting percentage (50.7%), lowest field goal attempts (11.4), lowest rebounds per game (8), 2nd lowest total rebound percentage (13.2), lowest usage rate (20.1), and lowest free throw percentage (70.6%). Across the board his numbers are down in nearly every facet, all adding up to the lowest PER of his career at 15.9. The last time, and only other time, Pau Gasol was under a 20 PER was his rookie season, and even then he was at 19.5.

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2013/2/7/3963196/nba-lakers-pau-gasol-nightmare-season

This league is a talent driven league ...... follow the money my friend. A coach has a RESPONSIBILITY to motivate and use a player to best of his abilities..... burying them on the3 bench like he's done with MULTIPLE players this year is ducking and hiding and one of a few reasons why this coach has been canned in multiple stops.

MC wrote:therealdeal - than deal with it than............... I could care LESS how you feel about my opinion just like you could care less about mine.......

MC wrote:difference is I'm not whining about someone disagreeing with me like you seem to be.....

MC wrote:Don't worry guys...... the way most of you were talking of Gasol over the last few months and years this injury is CLEARLY an addition by subtraction is it not? (SARCASM)

Someone mentioned karma earlier............ oh ya............ karma indeed

MC wrote: it's a chat sight with multiple opinions, unless I'm specifically calling you out DEAL with it or read it and move on.

MC wrote:This league is a talent driven league ...... follow the money my friend.

MC wrote: A coach has a RESPONSIBILITY to motivate and use a player to best of his abilities.....

MC wrote:burying them on the3 bench like he's done with MULTIPLE players this year

MC wrote:burying them on the3 bench like he's done with MULTIPLE players this year is ducking and hiding and one of a few reasons why this coach has been canned in multiple stops.