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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby King of Clutch on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:03 pm

I for one criticized pau and I won't apologize for it. He deserved every bit of criticism he was getting. The past 7 games has been a great stretch for us, mostly due to his play. Definitely didn't want him traded if he would consistently play like that, which none of us are sure of.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby MC on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:08 pm

realdeal - so opinions are right and wrong cut and dry now? which is it exactly? who's the end all and be all judge here? you? ...... you are too funny guy.

King of Clutch wrote:I for one criticized pau and I won't apologize for it. He deserved every bit of criticism he was getting. The past 7 games has been a great stretch for us, mostly due to his play. Definitely didn't want him traded if he would consistently play like that, which none of us are sure of.


That has the potential of happening when a player is finally used right.....

Gasol is still our best offensive big and it hasn't been close the last few years...... people just under appreciate the small skill sets that don't always show up in their nice and tidy stats so they dismiss it.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby therealdeal on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:14 pm

MC wrote:realdeal - so opinions are right and wrong cut and dry now? which is it exactly? who's the end all and be all judge here? you? ...... you are too funny guy.


Keep running.

I never said your opinion was wrong, I said you calling us out for OURS was wrong. Who's the end all be all judge here? You? The guy that called us all out and declared the Pau injury an act of "karma"?

Keep running, man, you are too funny.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby MC on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:27 pm

therealdeal wrote:
MC wrote:realdeal - so opinions are right and wrong cut and dry now? which is it exactly? who's the end all and be all judge here? you? ...... you are too funny guy.


Keep running.

I never said your opinion was wrong, I said you calling us out for OURS was wrong. Who's the end all be all judge here? You? The guy that called us all out and declared the Pau injury an act of "karma"?

Keep running, man, you are too funny.


that karma thing has you irked? lol......... I think it's other things but whatever lol
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Postby therealdeal on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:29 pm

Nope, it's no other things. That's why I've typed so much to you and stated exactly what's bothering me. I've done it a few times now, but all you can do is give these weak responses back.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby MC on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:40 pm

^

but was that directed at you? I guess it was if you are so offended by the use of karma....

that comment should only offend those who have been saying that the player is just done..... and there have been plenty of posters suggesting that...... if you fall in that group than I'm glad I hit my target base with the comment, if not it was not directed at you so chill.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby therealdeal on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:55 pm

Here's the direct quote:
Don't worry guys...... the way most of you were talking of Gasol over the last few months and years this injury is CLEARLY an addition by subtraction is it not? (SARCASM)

Someone mentioned karma earlier............ oh ya............ karma indeed

You're pointing the finger at people who have said that this guy was hurting our team and used specifically the "addition by subtraction" idea that I've said a few times. So yes, it was directed at me. And at the time I was 100% correct in my assessment: Pau was playing like s*** and I wanted him off the team because his bull**** was negatively affecting our team. His play was atrocious and his attitude was worse and if he were gone it would have helped team chemistry almost immediately.

He changed his attitude and his play followed and I praised him for it.

I'm glad you're glad that you offended me (or any posters). I hope you understand that it's against the rules to bait people and I hope you realize that the reason I'm now addressing you is because your post. The fact that you have literally no argument against me other than to ask me to chill or to try to change the subject is very telling to your original point and how weak it was.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:03 pm

Real Deal is correct ... Pau wasn't giving his all, playing at a bad level and couldn't stop complaining about his role ...

I don't remember a season when both our starting PF and C were that much of cry babies ...

Pau and Dwight are breaking all the records in this "department" this season

They should hook up and play double in Tennis since they care so much about their individual career over the team success ...

But let's blame MDA for everything ...
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby Juronimo on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:10 pm

For real.... the whining is getting past annoying. All the drama is beyond annoying, and most of all the losing is plain old intolerable.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:21 pm

Pau?..... Karma?.... what the hell?

Pau's worn out physically. He's not the kind of guy that "trains" for the game like so many others do and when you get into your early 30's your body changes...... and if you don't change it will catch up with you. That's what we are seeing IMO. A guy that has played pretty much year round competitive basketball for 10 years breaking down.

This injury probably will ensure that the Lakers will be stuck with him to the end of his contract and not be able to get any value from it at all other than salary relief as letting him expire won't allow us to sign anyone because of the other contracts on the books.

We really need to get whatever we can for him is it is still possible or the re-building process in a couple years is going to be brutal for the "recent" Laker's fan.....
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby karacha on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:22 pm

We'll trade him next year as an expiring, no worries. That contract can be extremely valuable.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby MC on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:26 pm

wcsoldier

- so Howard and Gasol have been complaining and the coach is not the issue?

considering the makeup of this team i think they are BANG on with what's wrong with the MDA hiring and philosophy.

But hey, lets lose all our bigs and the core of what makes this roster what it is for the coach who's won NOTHING that wants to run a philosophy of ball that's proven nothing.

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I don't like the complaining from players either but when it's coming from some of your star players in a TALENT driven league than you have to give it some consideration no?
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:30 pm

karacha wrote:We'll trade him next year as an expiring, no worries. That contract can be extremely valuable.


Don't be so sure of that. If we are competing next year and he's a part of it he won't be traded.....

This deadline and/or offseason are the highest probability IMO. This injury seems to limit that.....
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby karacha on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:37 pm

Those are all big ifs. But I do agree that he needs to be traded in the offseason. Again, that's a huge expiring contract right there. Someone will want it.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby Ice-Fire on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:45 pm

karacha wrote:Those are all big ifs. But I do agree that he needs to be traded in the offseason. Again, that's a huge expiring contract right there. Someone will want it.


There are plenty of teams who could have used Gasol by the trade-deadline and made a good push towards the playoffs..... he has value... but all was lost when he had his plantar fascia teared up.... I believe we won't see Gasol in a Laker uniform again.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby therealdeal on Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:02 pm

karacha wrote:Those are all big ifs. But I do agree that he needs to be traded in the offseason. Again, that's a huge expiring contract right there. Someone will want it.

If Howard leaves Pau stays, but that's really the only scenario I see Pau staying...
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby karacha on Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:03 pm

I don't think that's Mitch's plan "A". :man12:
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby therealdeal on Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:05 pm

karacha wrote:I don't think that's Mitch's plan "A". :man12:

No it's not. :man10:

His plan A is Howard in, Gasol out, Clark in, and whomever we bring in from Pau contributing significantly off the bench.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:38 pm

He's only valuable as an expiring next year, and perhaps at the trade deadline next year if he doesn't get healthy. We could also amnesty him before the tax deadline, and save a huge amount of money this year. That might be an option if it looks like the Time Warner money is going to be small this year due to us not making the playoffs.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:54 pm

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Postby Aonex on Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:55 pm

Guess Pau should opt for surgery then.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:57 pm

If he comes back in 8 weeks he'll still be able to get some regular season games in, hopefully we're in the playoff picture by that point. If not I would just shut him down completely.
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Postby The Rock on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:27 pm

https://twitter.com/KevinDing/status/299675132484542465


Pau out at least 6-8 weeks. There are 10 weeks left in the regular season. So, more Metta, Clark, Jamison, Blake, Meeks and Sacre to come.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby karacha on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:42 pm

It's safe to say he's out for the season.... if we don't make the playoffs.
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Re: Pau Gasol Discussion:Partial Foot Tear Out Min. 6 Weeks(311)

Postby Battle Tested20 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:57 pm

I really wish they would be a little more specific. Is it a complete tear, partial tear, and is he having surgery or not??? Are the doctors recommending surgery??

Wish these reports had more information in them then we could speculate what will happen more accurately.
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