Personally:This is a bigger loss to me than Magic '91

Personally:This is a bigger loss to me than Magic '91

Postby TalkieWalkie on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:06 pm

Heart-ache and heart-break... Kobe is the last true Laker sharing the Jerry Buss/Jerry West/Chick Hearn DNA...

But for me, he's family. I cannot not say he's family after spending 17 years watching him play the game of basketball... I hope this wont be the last we see of Kobe... But the Kobe of old is now gone...
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby azzrapedantoni on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:08 pm

Nothing would be more satifying then Howard leading this team to a championship and earning a spot on Top-5 greatest lakers ever.
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby Weezy on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:12 pm

azzrapedantoni wrote:Nothing would be more satifying then Howard leading this team to a championship and earning a spot on Top-5 greatest lakers ever.


What are you talking about, that has nothing to do with this thread. On topic I don't think it is bigger than Magic, people thought Magic was going to DIE. HIV took Magic from the game too soon, devastated LA, and we didn't win a title for almost a decade.
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby therealdeal on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:14 pm

^ That.

Kobe still has a remote chance of coming back and playing basketball at some point. Magic was thought to be dying within a year, maybe months.

Magic's was harder, but that doesn't mean this is easy.
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby baddmann28 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:16 pm

and it's going to be at least another decade. My heart is completely broken tonight. I knew when he took the free throws, he knew it was over. I've never seen that look on Kobe's face before.
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby DarthRekal on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:18 pm

twelve years weez.. from 88 to 00... but i digress.. I think this has the ability to as big as Magic... Kobe.. was bout to pass MJ in scoring and catch him in titles.. and tie us with Boston... now the future looks really bleak... in 91 sure we had just gotten to the finals.. but the writing was on the wall that was our last hoorah... this is sudden and in a game setting no doubt... i remember at least with magic.. he sat us down to tell us... kobe was in a blink of an eye


but you are right about the whole dying thing... i just couldnt believe that he would.. kinda like im in denial now.. that kobe is actually gone
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby purp n gold on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:23 pm

It's not as big as Magic.

Kobe has run the risk of sustaining this injury, or even worse ones, every night he's suited up for the Lakers.

We thought Magic was going to die in '92. Different story.
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:24 pm

Magic was much harder. Much worse.

Kobe will be back, but it will take at least a year.
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby Juronimo on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:33 pm

purp n gold wrote:It's not as big as Magic.

Kobe has run the risk of sustaining this injury, or even worse ones, every night he's suited up for the Lakers.

We thought Magic was going to die in '92. Different story.


Yep. As bad as this is, Magic's was worse. Back then Aids was a death sentence. Not only did a Laker era end, we thought he was going to die.
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:36 pm

People and overreaction ... torn achilles worse than HIV ... plus as bad and sad as it is , don't forget this team wasn't going to win it all this season and the next one too
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby gcclaker on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:36 pm

No. 24 can get surgery, rehab and will be back. It is not something he has to live with for the rest of his life.
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby Legendary on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:38 pm

Magic had people devastated and crying because HIV/AIDS was a death sentence back then. If you weren't born then or had family members who could relay the shock...it's difficult to explain how it hit Laker fans and the entire NBA.

This news about Kobe is a close 2nd. But the Magic announcement was BRUTAL and heart-breaking because Death is finite.
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:40 pm

in the larger scope of things this is nowhere as big as losing magic. that impacted the entire world pretty much. but personally, its a huge loss for me. i didnt start watching the lakers until kobe was drafted and hes all ive known for the past 17 years. i grew up with him and i know that this isnt how hes gonna go out.
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby gcclaker on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:45 pm

Personally, for me this is more on the same level as 1984 and 2008...
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby OX1947 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:47 pm

Same feeling, but that's the heart talking. Brain always will pick Magic because we thought he was going to die. And that moment was the worst non-personal situation in my life, ever.
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby 432J on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:48 pm

gcclaker wrote:No. 24 can get surgery, rehab and will be back. It is not something he has to live with for the rest of his life.

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nowhere close to magic
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby Weezy on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:51 pm

DarthRekal wrote:twelve years weez.. from 88 to 00... but i digress.. I think this has the ability to as big as Magic... Kobe.. was bout to pass MJ in scoring and catch him in titles.. and tie us with Boston... now the future looks really bleak... in 91 sure we had just gotten to the finals.. but the writing was on the wall that was our last hoorah... this is sudden and in a game setting no doubt... i remember at least with magic.. he sat us down to tell us... kobe was in a blink of an eye


but you are right about the whole dying thing... i just couldnt believe that he would.. kinda like im in denial now.. that kobe is actually gone


No I know it was 12 years between titles, I meant almost a decade after Magic was forced to retire, we didn't evens make the Finals until 2000 after he retired. For Kobe this is huge yes, as far as passing MJ in points and such, but for the team I don't see the same impact as Magic, Kobe can still come back, we do still have Dwight for now, I don't see another 12 year drought for us.
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby Lakerjones on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:57 pm

Juronimo wrote:
purp n gold wrote:It's not as big as Magic.

Kobe has run the risk of sustaining this injury, or even worse ones, every night he's suited up for the Lakers.

We thought Magic was going to die in '92. Different story.


Yep. As bad as this is, Magic's was worse. Back then Aids was a death sentence. Not only did a Laker era end, we thought he was going to die.


^^ Very, very true. Juronimo. I remember that day well. And yes, I did cry.
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby showtime32 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:59 pm

I can't describe how I feel right now. Kobe poured every ounce of his heart, soul, love and passion into this team this year. And then this. I wish I could give him my foot right now. This is just heart breaking
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:03 am

It's so terrible....
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:06 am

showtime32 wrote:I can't describe how I feel right now. Kobe poured every ounce of his heart, soul, love and passion into this team this year. And then this. I wish I could give him my foot right now. This is just heart breaking

I remember Magic popping his hamstring against Detroit wishing I could absorb the pain instead of him
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby Pig Miller on Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:08 am

whoever started this thread is definitely not older than 25. achilles tear versus HIV, don't be ignorant
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby TalkieWalkie on Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:17 am

I started the thread. I'm 30. My intention of this thread was not to diminish Magic's HIV announcement and retirement and seriousness of HIV/AIDS and mortality. I was 13 when I started watching Kobe play. Now I'm 30. He's been a part of my life for a long time and he's been a Laker for 17 Years! Here is a FB message I sent to him when he opened his FB account last summer:

Kobe,

Just want to say me, my dad and my brother are huge fans of yours. We remember the afternoon in 1996 listening to the NBA draft when our Lakers traded Vlade away for a young gaurd out of High School via Philly. I was 13, my bro was 10, you were 17. We immediately identified with you out of all of the other players. Being lifelong Laker fans, we were excited about finally having a player with skills and potential comparable to our beloved Magic Johnson. The rest is history... The early years, those missed shots against The Jazz in the playoffs... 31 points in the rookie game... Becoming an Allstar and busting a one handed behind the back dribble and floater in the Allstar game... The 'Fro years... The Three-Peat with Phil, Shaq, Fish, Rob, Shaw and Foxy...15 threes in one game... The down years/dark years... Phil and Fish coming back.... 62 in 3.... 81 points in regulation...your first and only MVP (I can't believe you didn't get more) back to the Finals with Pau and Lamar 3 times..winning 2... And now getting Dwight rolling with you... So many memories!

We've seen every game that you've played, if not, seen highlights and box scores for all of your games since '96.

I turn 30 this October and you've just turned 34...(happy belated btw)..You've been in our lives as Laker fans for 17 years ... Over half my own life! We've all grown up together in a way and had many trials and tribulations... Successes and challenges.

I've never met you in person, but because we've seen so many of your games, we feel like we know you like you're a cousin... or somthing. I don't know if that makes any sense.

My point is, there's this connection me and my family have to you over your career and many of our great memories involve you and the Lakers.

We may never ever cross paths and meet in person... Everyone has to walk their own path... But with u becoming active on FB, it's feel the need to tell you all that ive just told you and most of all to say this:

Thank you for thoroughly entertaining us and for all the great moments my brother, father and I have had watching you create works of art on the hardwood. You will be remembered forever!

It's great to have the chance to tell you that after 17 years!

Best of luck this season and know that me and mine will be rooting for you to climb to the top of that mountain next June! God bless you and your family.

Sincerely,
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I hope this helps frame why I felt this was a bigger loss for me. As a 10 year old when Magic retired, I understood less than I do now what it means to lose a legend. Kobe is OUR legend more than Ervin ever was
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Re: This is a bigger loss than Magic ...

Postby TIME on Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:47 am

Good post TW ^^^^

But it might have been better to title your thread in a way that described it as your most devastating Laker experience, rather than specifically comparing it to Magic's retirement. That was as posters above have pointed out far worse than what Kobe is going through right now from an objective perspective, and not just your subjective experience.
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Re: Personally:This is a bigger loss to me than Magic '91

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:59 am

Magic's announcement was a death sentence.... this is a potential career threatening injury. While to the fan base it's maybe some similar significance the Magic announcement shocked everyone in a number of ways. He was the smiling "boy next door" type. HIV was a homosexual or drug users disease. We found out about the "other Magic" that hung out with porn stars etc. in the months that followed that announcement. Magic was reduced to a mere mortal and then his image was forever tarnished as a result.

Kobe's injury is a big deal but he'll be back..... Magic was going to die....
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