PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby Alleyhoops on Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:47 pm

Wonder how this current Laker playoff roster compares with the 'surprising 08-'09 Magic roster that went through highly favored Boston and Cleveland to get to the finals.

Jameer Nelson G 6-0 -------------- Steve Nash G 6-3
J.J. Redick G 6-4 ------------------ Steve Blake G 6-3
Courtney Lee G 6-5 --------------- Jodie Meeks G 6-4
Anthony Johnson G 6-3 ------------ Darius Morris G 6-4
Tyronn Lue G 6-0 ----------------- Chris Duhon G 6-1
Rafer Alston G 6-2 ---------------- Andrew Goudelock G 6-3

Michael Pietrus SG/SF 6-6 --------- Metta World Peace F 6-7
Jeremy Richardson G/F 6-7 -------- Devin Ebanks F 6-9

Hedo Turkoglu F 6-10 ----------- Pau Gasol 7-1
Rashard Lewis SF/PF 6-10 -------- Antawn Jamison F 6-9
Tony Battie PF 6-11 -------------- Earl Clark F 6-10

Dwight Howard C 6-11 ---------- Dwight Howard C 6-11
Marcin Gortat C 6-11 ------------ Robert Sacre C 7-0
Adonal Foyle C 6-10 ------------- (Jordan Hill C 6-10)
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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby pound4pound1 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:51 pm

Jeremy Richardson...that's Jason's cousin :jam2:



great breakdown tho...there are some similarities
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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby gcclaker on Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:58 pm

Magic... Better perimeter players who can create off the dribble too. Turkoglu would be the only closer through this series who can score and get teammates involved.
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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby Weezy on Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:05 pm

Hard to say for me, they really only went 6 or 7 deep as far as guys that really contributed anything. It was Dwight, Turkeyglue, Lewis, Lee, Alston, and Pietrus. Nelson came back and actually hurt them, Gortat barely played and hardly scored, the rest were pretty much scrubs. The thing they did have was a perfect roster for Dwight, all those guys could shoot open 3's. In the East, it worked, don't think in the West it would have. If you put our roster now, with Nash in that same East, hard to say what happens, we don't have shooters and playmakers like Turkeyglue.

Overall though, I probably take this roster over that one despite the evidence of them getting to the Finals, but only by a tiny bit, it's a toss up almost to me. Each guy on that roster seems to have laid an absolute egg at least one game in the Finals though, Lewis had a terrible one, 4 points, Lee had a 4 point one, they didn't have a ton of guys to count on in the end other than Howard and Turkeyglue. Alston too should never have been benched, he was playing great with that team and they disrupted that. Maybe with a healthy Nelson to start the playoffs I'd take their roster thinking about it though.
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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby Alleyhoops on Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:10 pm

Studying it, I think the pivotal player is Metta. If he finds his stroke it significantly changes things. I take him over Pietrus. Jamison will probably get extended minutes, although I'd probbaly take Hedo over him.

If we can shoot decently, I believe Pau tilts the comparison in the Lakers favor, but it's close.

Not aure this is the same Dwight from that year, but he's rapidly closing in on 100% and probably a bit smarter now.

I think that Jeremy Richardson was from a small school like Coppin or Delta State. I'd have to check.
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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby GoldenKnight on Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:25 pm

Thought about it as well, our shooters are nowhere near as big of a threat as the Magic's were. If Nash gets back I expect him to be rusty as well.
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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby jOeyB7000 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:18 pm

their shooters were more of a threat than ours.

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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby Ariza3 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:55 pm

metta making 3's and playing strong d is a difference maker. strong correlation between winning games ad his 3point shooting
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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby ramsay13 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:10 pm

Nelson was their weakness.
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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby baddmann28 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:17 pm

You forgot one big glaring issue

2008/2009 Easter Conference vs 2012/2013 Western Conference.
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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby Forward Three on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:42 pm

There's really not much point in making on-paper roster comparisons of our squad this season and any other squad. Our roster, on-paper, is very good, all of the theoretical pieces are there with a solid mix of veterans, youth and journeymen players. But it really hasn't made much of a difference in the bigger picture. There is a shocking gap between the on-paper efficacy of our team and their real world performance.
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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby jodhus on Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:24 pm

Alleyhoops wrote:Wonder how this current Laker playoff roster compares with the 'surprising 08-'09 Magic roster that went through highly favored Boston and Cleveland to get to the finals.

Jameer Nelson G 6-0 -------------- Steve Nash G 6-3
J.J. Redick G 6-4 ------------------ Steve Blake G 6-3
Courtney Lee G 6-5 --------------- Jodie Meeks G 6-4
Anthony Johnson G 6-3 ------------ Darius Morris G 6-4
Tyronn Lue G 6-0 ----------------- Chris Duhon G 6-1
Rafer Alston G 6-2 ---------------- Andrew Goudelock G 6-3

Michael Pietrus SG/SF 6-6 --------- Metta World Peace F 6-7
Jeremy Richardson G/F 6-7 -------- Devin Ebanks F 6-9

Hedo Turkoglu F 6-10 ----------- Pau Gasol 7-1
Rashard Lewis SF/PF 6-10 -------- Antawn Jamison F 6-9
Tony Battie PF 6-11 -------------- Earl Clark F 6-10

Dwight Howard C 6-11 ---------- Dwight Howard C 6-11
Marcin Gortat C 6-11 ------------ Robert Sacre C 7-0
Adonal Foyle C 6-10 ------------- (Jordan Hill C 6-10)


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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:41 pm

Is this a serious question ?
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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby Tobias Funke on Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:34 am

The comparison should include the competition they faced and what we'd potentially face. Boston didn't have KG for that years playoffs, and the Cavs choked every year (and we should know first hand that the coach they had is just about as far from a championship caliber coach as possible).
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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby therealdeal on Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:11 am

That team was better than what we have.

1. They had better chemistry within their system. They knew where to be and what to do. We barely know anything resembling that.

2. They made it to the Finals as one of the top teams in the East, we're struggling to make the playoffs.

3. Alston was actually playing and was more effective than Nash... mostly because he's actually playing.

4. They had more respectable shooters, guys that could hit outside more consistently.

5. They had Turkeyglue who can create for himself as well as others AND space the floor. We have nothing like that.

6. They were younger and had more athleticism.

7. Their Dwight Howard, while less refined maybe, was more explosive and dominating defensively. Ours is wiser perhaps, but not quite the same player yet.
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Re: PLAYOFF ROSTERS: 2012-13 Lakers VS. 2008-09 Magic

Postby Chillbongo on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:58 am

jOeyB7000 wrote:their shooters were more of a threat than ours.

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08/09 D12 > current D12


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