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Re: Kobe Needs 14 Points to Pass Baylor

Postby 1Dynasty1 on Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:48 pm

from714to402 wrote:End of the season I see him either below or above Iverson.


Yeah I would agree that this would be probably end up being the case. One of the other.
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Re: Kobe Cracks Top 20 All-Time Scoring List

Postby dmlakerfan01 on Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:38 am

Kareem played forever & was consistant as hell. Kobe, or LeBron have to keep scoring 20+ in their late 30's. Who knows how their roles may change, their offensive schemes. Just can't know.
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Re: Kobe Cracks Top 20 All-Time Scoring List

Postby CheezStake on Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:54 am

In the next couple of years we'll have the privilege of watching him pass some all-time greats. I bet his personal goal is to pass MJ - and if his body and soul allow him, he has a chance @ Wilt and the Mailman for sure, then Kareem. I say Kobe retires #2, behind only the "Captain". Lebron won't play long enough.
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Re: Kobe Cracks Top 20 All-Time Scoring List

Postby KOBE G.O.A.T. on Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:07 am

Kobe keep on rockin !!
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Re: Kobe Cracks Top 20 All-Time Scoring List

Postby eNlight on Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:52 am

i'm so glad i'm alive to view his work of art. what a great treat to be a laker fan
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Re: Kobe Needs 14 Points to Pass Baylor

Postby trodgers on Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:12 am

from714to402 wrote:
chahal-24 wrote:
from714to402 wrote:End of the season I see him either below or above Iverson.


REALLY ?!?!!?!

Yea. Most likely below. We have about 26 games left in the season, he averages 27 a game. That comes out to be about 700 points. So yea, about the 16th spot by the end of the season.

The way you wrote it, it's almost certainly true. If he has more points, he's above. If he has fewer points, he's below. Only if he were tied would your statement not be true, at least as it reads straightforward.
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Re: Kobe Cracks Top 20 All-Time Scoring List

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:47 am

I understand LeBron scores quite a bit, but look what Kobe and Iverson have had to do for years consistently to get where they're at. Kareem played for a long time, longer than anyone could have expected, and even in his twilight years he was scoring. I sincerely doubt that Kobe can pass him, and that's no insult to Kobe ( or LeBron). It's just extremely unlikely for anyone besides an extremely dominant* Center that can play for almost twenty years consistently to pass Kareem. I mean look at what Shaq has done in his career and he isn't going to be passing Cap. LeBron has a limited though improving offensive game, and until he can come up with a consistent mid-range/ long range (ex. Kobe/Jordan) he's going to hit a point where his averages are going to take a beating. Can he crack the top 20? Probably. Top 10? Maybe. Top 5? I doubt it.

*By dominant I mean he can score almost at will every night like Kareem could.
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Re: Kobe Needs 14 Points to Pass Baylor

Postby Frank The Tank on Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:33 am

chahal-24 wrote:
from714to402 wrote:End of the season I see him either below or above Iverson.


REALLY ?!?!!?!



Either this post made me laugh or it didn't.
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Re: Kobe Cracks Top 20 All-Time Scoring List

Postby 1Dynasty1 on Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:37 am

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:It's pretty much a given Kobe will end up top 5 all time in scoring. If he can pass MJ that would be amazing.


So you have no respect for career scoring averages I take it? All that matters is bulk points regardless of how long it takes?
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Re: Kobe Needs 14 Points to Pass Baylor

Postby thkthebest on Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:08 am

^What do you mean? He never said that career averages were unimportant. He just said getting top 5 and passing MJ would be amazing because it is quite the feat.

Frank The Tank wrote:
chahal-24 wrote:
from714to402 wrote:End of the season I see him either below or above Iverson.


REALLY ?!?!!?!



Either this post made me laugh or it didn't.


Lol.
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Re: Kobe Cracks Top 20 All-Time Scoring List

Postby CLICKCLICK on Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:49 am

Kobe's not going to pass Iverson anytime soon, since Iverson is still good for about 19 points a game himself.
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby funkychunky on Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:59 am

If Kobe maintains his 27.7 ppg for the remaining 25 games, he'll end up with 23893, good for 17th.

On another note, if Iverson maintains his 18.3 ppg for his remaining 27 games, he'll end up with 24452, staying in 16th.
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby therealdeal on Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:45 am

Joel says he's going to break pass Rob Parish in March.
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby nameant on Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:29 am

He'll pass Parish within 5 games.
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby Quest4Truth on Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:30 am

It is interesting to look at the Lakers franchise records and see where he ranks amongst the greatest Lakers.
In 10 games he will pass Jerry West for second on the games played list.
He should pass Elgin Baylor for third in minutes played by the end of the season.
He ranks fourth in fgm. and third in fga.
Franchise leader in three's made and attempted.
Second in ftm and third in attempts
He recently moved into the top ten in rebounds.
Third in assists behind Magic and West.
Second in steals behind magic
Top ten in blocks, turnovers and fouls.
Sometime next season he will pass both Kareem and Jerry West for the franchise lead in points scored.
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby Damian Necronamous on Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:14 pm

He'll definitely get Parish and Barkley this year, barring injury.

Next year, he should jump in front of Ewing, West, Miller and English (not sure about AI because he's still playing). In three years, he'll definitely be top 5 scoring all-time. I really can't see him breaking Kareem's record unless he plays another 8-9 years. If he does, he's got a great shot.
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby DarthRekal on Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:40 pm

PASS THAT PUTRID PUNK PARRISH!
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby karacha on Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:49 pm

Damian Necronamous wrote:He'll definitely get Parish and Barkley this year, barring injury.

Next year, he should jump in front of Ewing, West, Miller and English (not sure about AI because he's still playing). In three years, he'll definitely be top 5 scoring all-time. I really can't see him breaking Kareem's record unless he plays another 8-9 years. If he does, he's got a great shot.


What he said. Seeing Kobe breaking Kareem's record is kinda hard... but he will be one of the top scorers ever, no question about it.

Then of course, there's Bron, if he stays healthy of course.
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby GinoDB on Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:52 pm

lets get Iverson for the minimum next year, then stash him on the bench until Kobe passes him :man9:
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby DarthRekal on Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:53 pm

karacha wrote:Then of course, there's Bron, if he stays healthy of course.

100 bucks says :bspn: starts COVERAGE of his scoring journey once HE becomes the youngest to 10 k surpassing kobe.. then EVERYTIME a milestone is hit.. there will be a day of COVERAGE and behind the scenes. what he ate and drank before the game.. :freak2:
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby rayboi8 on Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:45 pm

DarthRekal wrote:
karacha wrote:Then of course, there's Bron, if he stays healthy of course.

100 bucks says :bspn: starts COVERAGE of his scoring journey once HE becomes the youngest to 10 k surpassing kobe.. then EVERYTIME a milestone is hit.. there will be a day of COVERAGE and behind the scenes. what he ate and drank before the game.. :freak2:


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Uh Darth... Lebron already has 12,254
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby 2008 MVP on Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:03 pm

Kobe will pass Chuck just as the season winds down. then he and AI will start leapfrogging people the next few years. Shaq will crack top 5, but will then get bumped by Kobe or Kobe and AI. the leaps from there though become much more difficult...

no chance of Kobe or Lebron topping the Cap...they are not 7 footers who benefit from dunks and layups. and the game is different, you need size to compete, and size catches up to you. their athleticisim will wear on them...not saying its impossible. but i dont think Lebron can score 40,000 points with his frame the way it is.
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby 2008 MVP on Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:05 pm

as an aside, why dont total points in a season ever matter, its always based on PPG. yet when we measure the all time scoring leaders, its total points? seems contradictory to me. in fact, total points should always mean more then PPG. what good is a 30PPG average if you miss half the season (see TMAC)?
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby KB24 on Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:14 pm

2008 MVP wrote:as an aside, why dont total points in a season ever matter, its always based on PPG. yet when we measure the all time scoring leaders, its total points? seems contradictory to me. in fact, total points should always mean more then PPG. what good is a 30PPG average if you miss half the season (see TMAC)?

you need at least 1400 points to qualify...or 60+ games...as far as I remember.
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Re: Kobe: 135 Pts to Pass Parish for 18th All-Time

Postby DarthRekal on Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:14 pm

rayboi8 wrote:
DarthRekal wrote:
karacha wrote:Then of course, there's Bron, if he stays healthy of course.

100 bucks says :bspn: starts COVERAGE of his scoring journey once HE becomes the youngest to 10 k surpassing kobe.. then EVERYTIME a milestone is hit.. there will be a day of COVERAGE and behind the scenes. what he ate and drank before the game.. :freak2:


:man3:

Uh Darth... Lebron already has 12,254


you know what i meant :man2: :man10:
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