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Re: Points: Kobe 7th All-Time; 13 to pass Moses

Postby KB24 on Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:12 pm

^wtf :man10: :man10: :man10: :man10:
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Re: Points: Kobe 7th All-Time; 13 to pass Moses

Postby trodgers on Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:58 pm

That's hilarious. I didn't see that. Rare to see Pop do something like that.
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Re: Points: Kobe 7th All-Time; 13 to pass Moses

Postby mamatheregoesthatman on Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:38 pm

I've seen that clip before. Pop is a funny guy. But what's up with the beard? :man10:
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Re: Points: Kobe 7th All-Time; 13 to pass Moses

Postby DMK on Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:23 pm

kobe 6th all time....wwwwoooowww.

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Re: Points: Kobe 7th All-Time; 13 to pass Moses

Postby Heavier Than Heaven on Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:33 pm

Kobe's 6th now. We're watching this guy fly up the list like nothing.
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Re: Points: Kobe 7th All-Time; 13 to pass Moses

Postby John3:16 on Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:33 pm

Hope this thread doesn't get too buried. Got awhile before he passes Shaq. But he will be moving up the playoff point total soon.
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Re: Points: Kobe 7th All-Time; 13 to pass Moses

Postby escobar8 on Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:34 pm

congrats to kobe...now its time to catch shaq...
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Re: Points: Kobe 7th All-Time; 13 to pass Moses

Postby therealdeal on Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:03 pm

If Kobe averages 25 over the next 47 games in the regular season he'll catch Shaq's total as of right now.
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Re: Points: Kobe 7th All-Time; 13 to pass Moses

Postby Lakers Advocate on Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:20 pm

Props Kobe......I can't wait to see him pass shaq in points & finals MVP's
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Re: Points: Kobe 7th All-Time; 13 to pass Moses

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:31 pm

Congrats Bean!!! Woop, woop!
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Re: Points: Kobe 7th All-Time; 13 to pass Moses

Postby Lakerjones on Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:34 am

therealdeal wrote:If Kobe averages 25 over the next 47 games in the regular season he'll catch Shaq's total as of right now.


^^ Just amazing. And Shaq obviously isn't adding to his totals any time this season, so he'll be where he is now until next year.

I really hope there's no lockout for next year but it's probably wishful thinking. Congratulations Kobe on getting to 6! I like how the Dr. brought up Moses' ABA numbers (of course that goes for himself as well!). In my perspective that's still the true list of all time, and I do think Kobe will get to the same level ultimately in both of those lists.
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Re: Points: Kobe 7th All-Time; 13 to pass Moses

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:37 am

Kobe's really moving up there now. I mean 6th all time. Only Kareem, Malone, MJ, Chamberlin and Shaq ahead of him. Everyone else he has eclipsed.
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Re: Points: Kobe 7th All-Time; 13 to pass Moses

Postby Lakerjones on Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:03 am

Lets Go Lakers wrote:Kobe's really moving up there now. I mean 6th all time. Only Kareem, Malone, MJ, Chamberlin and Shaq ahead of him. Everyone else he has eclipsed.


^^ In terms of NBA points allowed only, yes. Let's be real here though, even if you are against counting the ABA's points as one for one because they were a more scoring heavy league, it's still not fair to discount it all together. For this discussion here, yes, Kobe's passed Dr. J, Dan Issel and Moses Malone. But on the all time NBA/ABA list he has not. He will pass Issel very soon and will be right behind Shaq just as he is all time NBA (40 more points). It'll take another 2000 points to surpass Moses on the combined list, though, and 2500 more for the good Dr.

It doesn't bug me all that much in regard to Kobe because the top 4 scorers all time are NBA only and I think Kobe will land squarely in there at number 3. However, it is a pretty gross disrespect to Dr. and Moses that their stats are completely discounted as if they never happened. The NBA ought to get that together. I know we've been over it saying they were two different leagues, but ask yourself honestly if you think the Doctor and Moses wouldn't have scored at least close to the same number of points during their primes if they had switched leagues. It would have been damn close regardless of "style of play." Who in the NBA at that time was going to stop Dr. J in his prime? He was the Michael Jordan of the '70s. He was the best offensive player in the ABA.
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Re: Points: Kobe 6th All-Time; 1168 to pass Shaq

Postby kray28 on Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:55 am

Shaq is literally on his last leg....Kobe has about a half season's worth of scoring to catch him, and he'll chip away at the difference a fair amount on the 20 or so remaining games for this season. So assuming a full regular season is played int he fall, Kobe should be eclipsing Shaq sometime around January 2012.
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Re: Points: Kobe 6th All-Time; 1168 to pass Shaq

Postby Rickmilli on Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:58 am

Kobe is one of the most Love/Hated player in the league. He gets booed for 3 quarters then the away crowd chants M-V-P!! Never really seen or heard In a while since you know who. I alot of so called Laker fans dislike Kobe because he ran Shaq out if town,Payton & Malone helped him but so what. When Kobe was cleared for the bull**** rape charge, no apologizes no nothing. I like Kobe because it's a me against the world mentality and racism showed it's ugly face. If and when he passes MJ in the scoring list and ties his rings what are the haters gonna say then.
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Re: Points: Kobe 6th All-Time; 1168 to pass Shaq

Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:03 pm

man, passing a player ahead of you, while joining the league earlier and while the person ahead is still playing. has that been done?
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Re: Points: Kobe 6th All-Time; 1168 to pass Shaq

Postby trodgers on Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:35 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:man, passing a player ahead of you, while joining the league earlier and while the person ahead is still playing. has that been done?

Well, yeah. Kobe passed a ton. Jordan did, too.
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Re: Points: Kobe 6th All-Time; 1168 to pass Shaq

Postby mamatheregoesthatman on Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:48 pm

Julius Erving was in the crowd at the Atlanta game yesterday. When John Ireland interviewed him, Dr. J talked about how great of a player Moses Malone was, then he praised Kobe and called him awesome. That's respect right there. I can't wait to see what Kobe and the other NBA players will say when he passes Shaq on the scoring list. :jam2:
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Re: Points: Kobe 6th All-Time; 1168 to pass Shaq

Postby kray28 on Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:50 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:man, passing a player ahead of you, while joining the league earlier and while the person ahead is still playing. has that been done?


Kobe passed Iverson while he was technically still in the league last year, I believe. Although Iverson came into the league in the same draft class as Kobe.

Kobe passed by KG a long time ago, and KG came in the year before Kobe. Besides Shaq and KG, there are just handful of guys left in the league that came in before 1996. McDyess is one of them, I think. But there's no one obviously that Kobe hasn't surpassed....except Shaq.
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Re: Points: Kobe 6th All-Time; 1168 to pass Shaq

Postby KB24 on Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:03 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:man, passing a player ahead of you, while joining the league earlier and while the person ahead is still playing. has that been done?

I don't understand what you mean...

its not like every player is a huge scorer...there are SO MANY players Kobe has surpassed in his first few NBA seasons...and not just Kobe...don't you think MJ surpassed a billion players in the 80s who were still playing? it has happened so often, its impossible to count.
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Re: Points: Kobe 6th All-Time; 1168 to pass Shaq

Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:06 pm

KB24 wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:man, passing a player ahead of you, while joining the league earlier and while the person ahead is still playing. has that been done?

I don't understand what you mean...

its not like every player is a huge scorer...there are SO MANY players Kobe has surpassed in his first few NBA seasons...and not just Kobe...don't you think MJ surpassed a billion players in the 80s who were still playing? it has happened so often, its impossible to count.


hmm skewed my logic there :P

I meant to compare like HoF scale like top 20. like shaq started before kobe, is among the top scorers of all time. but to have a player like kobe, do it a lesser amount of time in the same time that shaq has been playing...

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Re: Points: Kobe 6th All-Time; 1168 to pass Shaq

Postby kray28 on Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:11 pm

Shaq could have bought himself some more time if he could only hit some freethrows. LOL.

If Shaq, with his 52% career FT%, had managed even a 75% freethrow rate, he could have padded his lead with over an entire season's worth of points. Shaq for his career has left over 5000 pts at the freethrow line.
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Re: Points: Kobe 6th All-Time; 1168 to pass Shaq

Postby LakerFanIam on Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:17 pm

Do Playoff points count towards this total or is this just regular season only?
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Re: Points: Kobe 6th All-Time; 1168 to pass Shaq

Postby kray28 on Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:18 pm

Regular season only.
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Re: Points: Kobe 6th All-Time; 1168 to pass Shaq

Postby Eyedol1933 on Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:29 pm

Did you mean that Shaq has left over 5,000pts at the free throw line or that the scoring list only counts regular season points

It would seem strange if playoff points were not counted towards a player's career points. Then again, the regular things would keep things "equal" for everyone, but still...
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