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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time!!!

Postby Forward Three on Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:33 pm

It is a very cool milestone to achieve, especially when he still has at least 2 or 3 years left where he will probably still be able to score 20+ppg. I think he realistically does have a chance to become the all-time leader, but it's tough to say. One serious new injury could basically retire him early given his history of many minor-moderate injuries.

Still, very cool to see.
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time!!!

Postby KobeCory8 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:59 pm

thanks for everything kobe, congrats
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time!!!

Postby magicman32 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:01 pm

Much appreciated. He will pass MJ and finish #3
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time!!!

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:11 pm

:bow: :jam2:
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time!!!

Postby Jporkel on Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:58 pm

[Sarcasm] I agree, let's sacrifice the season so Kobe can climb as high as possible on the scoring ladder.[/Sarcasm]

Seriously, I'd prefer Laker wins.
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time!!!

Postby John3:16 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:01 pm

From Shaq via Twitter:

Congrats to Kobe for being the greatest laker ever thanks for making us the greatest laker one two punch ever and congrats on passin me up 2

After the game O’Neal also told ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith how much he respected Bryant and appreciated what he has done during his career.

“I want to personally congratulate Kobe on being the greatest Laker ever. His accomplishment is great and well deserved, and I’m really proud of him. He told me when he was 18 years old that he’d go down as the greatest Laker ever, and one of the greatest players of all time. And he wasn’t lying.”

Pretty classy.
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby kobe_mamba on Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:16 pm

big shout out to Kobe....

and wow RE: Shaq comments, great to hear
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:20 pm

^hes been trying to do everything in his power to try to get back on the lakers good side so theyd retire his number sooner rather than later. every time he says anything about the lakers i always think

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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby kobe_mamba on Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:24 pm

CaCHooKa Man wrote:^hes been trying to do everything in his power to try to get back on the lakers good side so theyd retire his number sooner rather than later. every time he says anything about the lakers i always think

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ha ha, exactly how i've been feeling about it...its hard to know if he is being serious or genuine and truly regrets what happened in the past - or he simply is sucking up to the Lakers lol its a tough one??
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby Forward Three on Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:24 am

It's almost possible that Kobe could finish the season breaking 30,000. He's on pace for about 1900 maybe 2000 points, which would come short by a little bit, but if he had some huge games(50+) it would probably be doable.

If it weren't for the shortened season he'd easily clear the 30k mark. If he can do it again next year(~29ppg) he should be able to pass MJ then, but it'd be close, and for all we know this could his last time he outputs at this level for a whole season. Hell, for all we know he could cool off this season and finish with ~26-28ppg instead of ~30ppg.
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby lakersyunowin on Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:39 am

kobe_mamba wrote:
CaCHooKa Man wrote:^hes been trying to do everything in his power to try to get back on the lakers good side so theyd retire his number sooner rather than later. every time he says anything about the lakers i always think

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ha ha, exactly how i've been feeling about it...its hard to know if he is being serious or genuine and truly regrets what happened in the past - or he simply is sucking up to the Lakers lol its a tough one??


ima be optimist and just believe that he means it.

:jam2: way to go kobe. now if only we could get you an awesome pg to help with #6
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby BigDan24 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:12 am

Congrats Kobe! Greatest Laker ever. He made me a fan of this beautiful sport and so at least for me he is and always will be the greates Basketball player ever!
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby venturalakersfan on Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:16 am

I have watched the local news and national news last night and today, and they keep reporting that "Kobe made history". Correct me if I am wrong, but if there are 4 others who have also scored that number of points, is it really historic? Nothing against Kobe and his amazing accomplishments, but more a comment on the sensationlization of news these days.
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby LAKEROC on Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:25 am

Correct me if I am wrong, as it has been a while, but when Magic Johnson passed Oscar Robertson on the all-time assist list, with that pass to Terry Teagle on the baseline turnaround, didn't the Lakers stop the game and honor Johnson with a ceremony before heading back to the court to play the game? Do you believe if he were to ever do that, that play would stop, and he a ceremony would take place?
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby Rooscooter on Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:57 am

LAKEROC wrote:Correct me if I am wrong, as it has been a while, but when Magic Johnson passed Oscar Robertson on the all-time assist list, with that pass to Terry Teagle on the baseline turnaround, didn't the Lakers stop the game and honor Johnson with a ceremony before heading back to the court to play the game? Do you believe if he were to ever do that, that play would stop, and he a ceremony would take place?


If he passed Kareem.... maybe at the next timeout. It would depend on who's home floor it was on I suppose.

When Kareem passed Wilt it was in Las Vegas of all places and they did stop the game and gave him the ball.
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby Lakerjones on Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:52 pm

It's awesome that he's passed Shaq. I'm very happy for that! I still think of him being number 7 right now though behind Dr. J and Moses on all time NBA/ABA points. At the rate he's going he'll pass Moses this year and come right up close to Dr. J.
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby XXIV on Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:21 pm

Congrats Kobe! Inching towards #1 overall. :jam2:
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby KB24 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:30 pm

I'll congratulate him when he cracks the top 3...which is basically inevitable if he stays healthy *knock on wood*.
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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby Mr_Hollywood_Line on Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:02 am

Classy (and funny) response from Shaq...

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Re: Points: Kobe 5th All-Time; 1st post updated

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:09 am

I doubt Kobe catches Kareem. He may get Malone however.

I think you can expect Kobe to score around 20 to 25 for the next 4 years (after this one) and then you will see the drop off. at 36 to 37 years of age it will be difficult for him to play enough minutes to get over 20 points for a full season unless his field goal percentage rises with age...... which isn't usually the case with aging players. Usually the opposite is true.

I think one of the best seasons ever for any player was Kareem's 85-86 season. He finished the regular season 6 days away from his 39 birthday and averaged 23.4, 6.1 and 3.5 in just over 33 minutes a game. That was the end of him being a dominant player as the next 3 years saw significant drop-offs each successive year.

At 38 to 39 years old nobody's done anything like that in an entire season. MJ averaged 22 at the same age but that was after a 4 year layoff and he only played 60 games. Malone had a pretty good season at 38..... he averaged 22 and 8 in 38 minutes.

Jordan Played 15 seasons and amassed 41,010 regular season minutes and another 7,474 playoff minutes
Kobe is in his 16th season and has 41,100 minutes regular season minutes and another 8,165 playoff minutes
Kareem played 20 seasons and logged 57,477 regular season minutes and another 8,851 playoff minutes.
Malone played 19 seasons and logged 54,852 regular season minutes and another 7,907 playoff minutes.

Looking at those minute totals gives you some perspective on just how much Kobe as played. He's already played more minutes than Jordan but he will need to play another 6 years to catch Kareem (at about 2600 min/season average). Kareem averaged 36.8 minutes for 20 years. Kobe is below that in his 16th season and that will most likely go down from this point on. So if Kobe catches Kareem in minutes played it will take him until he is about 40 years old and 22 seasons.... That puts what Kareem did in perspective..... especially since he was 22 when he started his NBA Career.

The question that will be answered by Kobe will be: Is it minutes or age that is limiting factor? The next 6 years will answer that question. I don't think he will catch Kareem in scoring but he may in minutes played. I think he can catch Malone if he avoids a significant injury.
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Re: Playoff Points: Kobe 3rd All-Time; 452 to pass Kareem

Postby funkychunky on Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:39 pm

Playoff points updated!
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Re: Playoff Points: Kobe 3rd All-Time; 279 to pass Kareem

Postby trodgers on Mon May 14, 2012 9:47 am

Updated for playoffs
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Re: Playoff Points: Kobe 3rd All-Time; 279 to pass Kareem

Postby Sirron on Mon May 14, 2012 3:21 pm

To put what's needed to pass Kareem in perspective, Kobe just averaged 29 points for 7 games, or about 203 points. Lakers will need to advance to the next round in order to catch KAJ this year
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Re: Playoff Points: Kobe 3rd All-Time; 279 to pass Kareem

Postby DMK on Mon May 14, 2012 3:42 pm

Sirron wrote:To put what's needed to pass Kareem in perspective, Kobe just averaged 29 points for 7 games, or about 203 points. Lakers will need to advance to the next round in order to catch KAJ this year


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Re: Playoff Points: Kobe 3rd All-Time; 279 to pass Kareem

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Mon May 14, 2012 5:29 pm

An early exit last season kind of messed up my prediction but he should still end his career as the all-time leading post-season scorer. I think just barely though, it really depends on if the Lakers can stay competitive after this season. A lot of question marks there.
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