trodgers wrote: Greatest of All Time wrote:
trodgers wrote:But the numbers shown don't support those claims. What to do? What to do?
How do they not support it?
The numbers suggest four things. First, we're playing at a faster pace than last year.
Second, our offense is better than last year.
Third, our defense is worse than last year.
Fourth, our offense has increased more than our defense has decreased.
Those points combine to suggest that we should be a better team this year than last year. Now, if those numbers support anything about such season-to-season comparisons, it's that we're better than we were last year. Maybe they don't support any conclusions, but if they do, they're certainly not what you suggested.
How do you think the Knicks would look on defense running up and down the court jacking up shots? I'd imagine they' be just as inconsistent as these Lakers.
Inconsistency doesn't appear in those stats. And I have no idea what the Knicks would look like if they did that. Also, I don't see what it matters. We're not the Knicks. We have different players.
I realize that the numbers shown were for this season's and last season's Lakers teams. I didn't really make my point clear so I'll try to make it more specific. When I said "How do they not support it?" I was referring to a comparison of the Lakers and Knicks' offensive/defensive rating and pace this year. I didn't realize the numbers you were focusing on were the ones Mike Brown posted. To clear up my original point, here are the Lakers and Knicks' offensive/defensive ratings and pace for the 2012-2013 according to basketball-reference:
Off Rtg: 113.2 (2nd of 30)
Def Rtg: 105.1 (16th of 30)
90.7 (24th of 30)
Off Rtg: 108.1 (8th of 30)
Def Rtg: 105.6 (18th of 30)
Pace: 94.1 (4th of 30)
The Knicks, who play at a slower pace, still manage to have the 2nd highest ranked offense in the league. Antoni's offensive philosophy of pushing the pace and maximizing possessions means that the players are focusing most of their energy on offense. Are the Laker' defensive problems simply just a lack of effort or is it because since they're focusing everything on offense, they don't have enough energy to put into defense?
Although they're scoring a lot and making 3s, it's doesn't seem like it's enough to outscore opponents like those mid 2000s Phoenix Suns teams did. Will Steve Nash returning pump the offense to top 3? And will it be enough to outscore most opponents? Maybe, but I don't like the idea of relying on a 39 year old recovering from a fractured leg. I'd have no problem with it if it meant the Lakers win the title this year but I wouldn't bet on it.
I missed most of the game on Thursday. Got home from a Final in the middle of the 1st and saw Carmelo abusing Ron Artest 1vs1. Saw the Lakers inbound the ball, run down the court and jack up a shot. Sometimes it would go in, sometimes it wouldn't. Usually when it went in, the Knicks would answer right back and they'd continue to score when the Lakers missed. I got tired of watching the abuse so I went to sleep.
So my final point is that the Lakers should utilize an offensive philosophy similar to the Knicks. They don't need to maximize possessions to be a potent offensive team. The Knicks' first option is Melo in the post (Lakers have plenty of post players), if not they use variations of the screen roll with off ball movement from several players. Meanwhile D'Antoni's offensive philosophy is for everyone to run down the court, camp at the 3 point line, and wait for Kobe and someone to screen roll at the top and let them "take what the defense gives them".
One analyst even said that the Knicks are basically using D'Antoni's system but with some misdirection stuff added in. Utilizing movement off the ball such as off-ball screens will get players more involved on offense. They also wouldn't have one guy handling the ball 99% of the time spamming the same high screen roll.