Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Ariza3 wrote:i dont understand players like kobe. if he wants his 6th ring so badly and wants to win, then he needs to surround himself with a bunch of good players....thus the lakers need more cap room to sign players. kobe contract is massive...since hes already like a billionaire why not ask for less money and give the lakers fo more $ to work with instead of having to pay kobe 30+ mill

if i were kobe and wanted my 6th ring so badly...id be like "im alrady loaded, so if its possible lets make my contract for less and that way you guys (front office) have more $ to sign other good players and then i will have a better chance of winning"

one thing i liked about the heat big 3 thing is they all took pay cuts to play together bc otherwise it would never have worked. sometimes you have to give a little to get something...wish it were possible for kobe to give up his massive contract for something reasonable and help his team get way better by doing so.

thats what i would do at his age and time left in the league and all the $ hes already made + all the endorsement money...his contract money is nothing compared to all the other stuff he does.

khmrP wrote:

Ariza3 wrote:i dont understand players like kobe. if he wants his 6th ring so badly and wants to win, then he needs to surround himself with a bunch of good players....thus the lakers need more cap room to sign players. kobe contract is massive...since hes already like a billionaire why not ask for less money and give the lakers fo more $ to work with instead of having to pay kobe 30+ mill

if i were kobe and wanted my 6th ring so badly...id be like "im alrady loaded, so if its possible lets make my contract for less and that way you guys (front office) have more $ to sign other good players and then i will have a better chance of winning"

one thing i liked about the heat big 3 thing is they all took pay cuts to play together bc otherwise it would never have worked. sometimes you have to give a little to get something...wish it were possible for kobe to give up his massive contract for something reasonable and help his team get way better by doing so.

thats what i would do at his age and time left in the league and all the $ hes already made + all the endorsement money...his contract money is nothing compared to all the other stuff he does.

this contract was an ext. from several years ago, he was still in his prime. People dont sign contract thinking bout how it'll affect their teams future. The big 3 of Mia took measly paycuts which was off-set anyways with low income taxes of Flo and that was hardly going to kill their deal to go to Mia so your statement is misleading with or w/o the taking less they were all going to Mia regardless, LA has one of the higher incomes taxes in the states.

easyguy wrote:Kobe's wife or future ex wife will take half of his money so you must take that into consideration too.

eltoro wrote:Unfortunately, Bynum has the most trade value. He is young, and his potential is limitless. The only way we get an all-star package is if we get lucky and the trading partners get equal or greater value....OR, if we include Bynum.

And no. No way in hell do we trade one of the top two centers in the game today for Deron Williams alone. Bynum is younger, has more upside, and is a top 2 player at his position. Deron Williams is a top 5-7 player at his own position.

Ariza3 wrote:A source who has spoken with Howard recently said the All-Star center desperately wants to be traded prior to the start of next season.

And although the Brooklyn Nets are still considered the frontrunner, “it is not going to be a one-horse race,” the source said, listing the Mavericks, Knicks and — to a lesser degree — the Clippers and Lakers as among the destinations that would appeal to Howard.

eltoro wrote:WOW! Huge news!

Check this video out...
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7958980

Skip and Stephen A debating whether or not Bynum gets traded. At one point, Stephen A suggesting that one appropriate deal not involving Dwight Howard would be Deron Williams and Brook Lopez. However, Skip thinks Bynum has more value than both those guys. The interesting thing is that Stephen A is very connected, and in-the-know with a lot of players, agents, etc. He truly is one of the guys who has legit insider info, particularly in New York.

venky wrote:I'd take D Will over that chucker Rose and Westbrick, but that's just me.

But our bench needs help. We should try to get OJ Mayo and/or Beasley.

venky wrote:I'd take D Will over that chucker Rose and Westbrick, but that's just me.

But our bench needs help. We should try to get OJ Mayo and/or Beasley.

eltoro wrote:Everybody is saying that Bynum is a top 2 center. In return, DWills is a top 5-7 PG. We need more if we are giving up Bynum.

CP3, Derrick Rose, Rondo, Westbrook, tony Parker, all rate higher than Deron Williams at th PG position. Nobody rates higher than Bynum at center, except for maybe Dwight Howard today.

eltoro wrote:

venky wrote:I'd take D Will over that chucker Rose and Westbrick, but that's just me.

But our bench needs help. We should try to get OJ Mayo and/or Beasley.

Come on! Deron is a top PG, but nobody in their right mind would take Deron Williams over Derrick Rose or Westbrook. Forget Westbrook, he is still in the playoffs, Rose and Deron Williams are not.

D. Wills has led his Nets team to what? A high draft pick in the draft? They didn't even come close to sniffing the playoffs. Derrick Rose led his team in scoring, assists, won the league MVP and the NBA's best record. And you want Deron Williams over Derrick Rose?!!?!?!

GNC wrote:If that Deron Williams AND Brook Lopez trade ever ended up on the table for only Bynum you could bet your house that Mitch would pull the trigger. He'd be crazy not to.

Maybe I am reading what Skip said wrong though? Is he saying Deron or Brook Lopez?

GNC wrote:If that Deron Williams AND Brook Lopez trade ever ended up on the table for only Bynum you could bet your house that Mitch would pull the trigger. He'd be crazy not to.

Maybe I am reading what Skip said wrong though? Is he saying Deron or Brook Lopez?