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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby CarolinaLakerFan on Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:00 pm

Would love to have Barnes back for the vet minimum. He'd flourish playing with Nash and D12. Not sold on Ebanks being the backup to Metta.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby khmrP on Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:02 pm

Ariza3 wrote:I'm obviously extremely happy with the off season moves and our current team but entertain the idea:

After this coming season, CP3 will be a free agent. How insane would that be if we win the title this coming season, and somehow get CP3 to join the Lakers the following year. Imagine CP3 starting and Nash coming off the bench running the 2nd unit to perfection. CP3 would up the defense for the starters and set up Kobe,Pau, and Howard just as well as Nash. And then Nash would be able to set up Jaminson, Meeks, Ebanks, and Hill off the bench and prob be the 6MOY. It would be like our starting lineup is the Lakers and our bench unit is the Suns LOL.

Obviously not gunna happen, but it is crazy to think that it could happen...and winning the title this year could help CP3 decide. idk if Nash would come off the bench, and i obv wouldn't do that to him; im just thinking about the possibility of this happening bc it is actually possible if you think about our team, GM, and CP3 free agency. Our bench with Nash running it would be pretty tough to beat, let alone our starting lineup with the best PG in the league (no offense to the genius HOF that is Nash). CP3 will prob sign with the Clippers to a large contract but we have to think we could lose Dwight to the Clippers next year if CP3 recruits him and Dwight isn't happy with Kobe and the Lakers. I'm not thinking about who has how many years left on their contract, $, etc. but hypothetically, we keep the same roster but add CP3 to it, it could be even more impressive than now:

CP3/Nash
Kobe/Meeks
MWP/Ebanks
Pau/Jaminson
Howard/Hill

And if you're thinking about $...think about this. That would be a pretty expensive team but the Lakers will make prob around $150-$170 million this year if not more now that we have such an impressive starting lineup...and the way the new CBA has revenue sharing we might as well spend the money the Lakers make on ourselves as were gunna have to share it with the league anyways....selfish but its business.

IDK about CBA rules etc. so its obviously just a pipe dream, but it is a pretty cool thing to think about. CP3 and Howard carrying the Lakers once Kobe is gone.

dude you're just being greedy now and that scenario is beyond a pipe dream
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Azndude2190 on Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:19 pm

So do you guys think we're done for the off-season? We still have $1.7 million to go out and buy someone.

We have a logjam at PG, but it's just a bunch of horrible point guards behind Nash. I'm also not that confident in Ebanks being the backup SF.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:53 pm

Not done but probably in no rush. I doubt many teams feel like dealing right now. If I'm Mitch I look at the remaining FA options. Pick the ones who would sign for the vet min and send out feelers. Whatever he can find go for it. Obviously there's not much left, but if I'm him I save my remaining mini-MLE for emergencies later.

I'd keep an eye on Barbosa and Martin. If I can sign one or both of them I do it first and ask questions later.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby karacha on Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:30 pm

^

I agree with everything you said. I would love Barbosa or Martin on this team. We do have a lot of guards now, but let's be realistic -- they aren't very good, or they are simply not ready. Barbosa would solve this problem nicely, since he's a combo guard. He can score too and would be a perfect spark of the bench, not to mention that injury insurance is always good to have. Nash/Barbosa/Kobe/Blake/Meeks is a great rotation. This way we could reduce Nash's and Kobe's minutes too.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:48 pm

^^^If I had to choose between Martin or Barbosa for the last spot on the team, give me Barbosa. Barbosa would kick Blake out of the lineup while Martin would be added for depth purposes. Waive Glock and don't sign either of the rooks to do it. It would give us 14 players with a legit 10 man rotation.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:23 pm

Doc Brown wrote:^^^If I had to choose between Martin or Barbosa for the last spot on the team, give me Barbosa. Barbosa would kick Blake out of the lineup while Martin would be added for depth purposes. Waive Glock and don't sign either of the rooks to do it. It would give us 14 players with a legit 10 man rotation.

Nash/Barbosa/Blake/Duhon ?

That's a lot of cash for the 1 spot. I don't think any GM really wants to deal with Mitch, even if Mitch is literally giving away players, just because of the perception that he robbed the league. No one wants to be the next guy that's robbed by Mitch. That being said, I don't think anyone lets us trade them Blake for a future draft pick, even a protected 2nd rounder.

I agree with the idea, but I'd love to see what Mitch does about it. I doubt Barbosa would be willing to sign for limited minutes AND a minimum contract. Same might be said for Martin. I think McGrady might consider it since there doesn't seem to be a ton of interest in him. I think he'd be a nice 3rd string SF, maybe 2nd string if he pushes Ebanks.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:27 pm

If Barbosa & Martin can both be had for cheap, I don't see why they wouldn't just dump Blake & sign both. Get a better backup & add the final piece to the front court for less than the price of Blake. I'm sure if it was that easy, Mitch would have done it. Maybe even Portland doesn't want Blake now.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Azndude2190 on Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:43 pm

Wouldn't trading Duhon+Glock (are they expiring contracts?) bag us something pretty considerable?
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:46 pm

Azndude2190 wrote:Wouldn't trading Duhon+Glock bag us something pretty considerable?


Probably not. I'd take a TPE and be completely fine with it to be honest. Maybe a team that needs to meet the minimum salary requirement might take them.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:06 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
Azndude2190 wrote:Wouldn't trading Duhon+Glock bag us something pretty considerable?


Probably not. I'd take a TPE and be completely fine with it to be honest. Maybe a team that needs to meet the minimum salary requirement might take them.


I don't know that any team wants either one of those guys to be honest. Blake isn't that bad actually, just not worth 4 million dollars that's all. And of course Duhon isn't worth a bag of peanuts.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:14 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:
Azndude2190 wrote:Wouldn't trading Duhon+Glock bag us something pretty considerable?


Probably not. I'd take a TPE and be completely fine with it to be honest. Maybe a team that needs to meet the minimum salary requirement might take them.


I don't know that any team wants either one of those guys to be honest. Blake isn't that bad actually, just not worth 4 million dollars that's all. And of course Duhon isn't worth a bag of peanuts.

It will take more effort to trade Blake. Duhon only has 1.25M guaranteed next season. Maybe we'll get lucky & some team will lose their starting PG & take both of them.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:20 pm

That's asking for an awful lot of luck from the Lakers this season. :man10:
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:19 pm

therealdeal wrote:That's asking for an awful lot of luck from the Lakers this season. :man10:

No luck involved..

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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:39 pm

:man10:

There's a lot of luck of involved. In every situation thus far we've used assets to move/acquire pieces. First was draft picks, second was Andrew Bynum and filler, and third was the money we had available.

This time you want Mitch to trade crap for something somewhere? I don't know if even Mitch can do that. It took a first round pick to sell Fisher for goodness sake, and Blake is worse than that.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakersyunowin on Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:41 pm

i'm convinced mitch could get us a star for a half-eaten oreo
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby KB24 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:14 am

therealdeal wrote::man10:

There's a lot of luck of involved. In every situation thus far we've used assets to move/acquire pieces. First was draft picks, second was Andrew Bynum and filler, and third was the money we had available.

This time you want Mitch to trade crap for something somewhere? I don't know if even Mitch can do that. It took a first round pick to sell Fisher for goodness sake, and Blake is worse than that.

if you can turn Luke's 2 year contract into Sessions expiring, you can do ANYTHING.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakerfan2 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:52 am

KB24 wrote:
therealdeal wrote::man10:

There's a lot of luck of involved. In every situation thus far we've used assets to move/acquire pieces. First was draft picks, second was Andrew Bynum and filler, and third was the money we had available.

This time you want Mitch to trade crap for something somewhere? I don't know if even Mitch can do that. It took a first round pick to sell Fisher for goodness sake, and Blake is worse than that.

if you can turn Luke's 2 year contract into Sessions expiring, you can do ANYTHING.


we also got a TPE from Luke which netted us Earl Clark in the Orlando trade.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Lakerjones on Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:58 am

KB24 wrote:if you can turn Luke's 2 year contract into Sessions expiring, you can do ANYTHING.


^^ Agreed. Of all Mitch's magic wand feats, that was one of the tops. Luke freaking Walton.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby khmrP on Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:36 am

I think we still have a chance to dump Duhon/Clark on somebody once the time period to trade/package player is over. Didn't realize Duhon buyout for next year and Clark is expiring this year, thats nearly 5mill we can package for something solid.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby MadMax on Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:43 am

It certainly seems off to me to see Blake and Duhon to be on the roster. I think we need a more productive person to back up Nash. Mitch has already pulled of one HELL of an off season...Although a blake and/or Duhon move is comparability small, I feel it would a world of a difference.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby khmrP on Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:55 am

a guy that we could target on the cheap that a poster mention I believe Rock, is Bill Walker. Looking at his career stats he could be considered a shooter. His 3pt % is better than Meeks, If we could dump Clark, Duhon or Blake, Walker could be decent insurance piece should Ebanks not live up to expectations.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakerfan2 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:09 am

khmrP wrote:a guy that we could target on the cheap that a poster mention I believe Rock, is Bill Walker. Looking at his career stats he could be considered a shooter. His 3pt % is better than Meeks, If we could dump Clark, Duhon or Blake, Walker could be decent insurance piece should Ebanks not live up to expectations.


i think we should be eyeing a young, capable PG for clark/duhon/blake. someone with speed and ball handling ability, take care of the ball.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:13 am

Lakerjones wrote:
KB24 wrote:if you can turn Luke's 2 year contract into Sessions expiring, you can do ANYTHING.


^^ Agreed. Of all Mitch's magic wand feats, that was one of the tops. Luke freaking Walton.

Even with that we had to send a pick I think right? We had something of value attached to him. The most valuable thing we can attach to Blake is Duhon...
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby khmrP on Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:18 am

therealdeal wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:
KB24 wrote:if you can turn Luke's 2 year contract into Sessions expiring, you can do ANYTHING.


^^ Agreed. Of all Mitch's magic wand feats, that was one of the tops. Luke freaking Walton.

Even with that we had to send a pick I think right? We had something of value attached to him. The most valuable thing we can attach to Blake is Duhon...


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