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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:16 am

Battle Tested20 wrote:Yeah Pietrus would sure be nice to get. If not, that's fine too. I've been with the crowd that says we should give Ebanks a real chance this year and finally see what we have with him.

I'm with you man. A lot of people aren't into the idea of Ebanks for whatever reason, but I think he's going to do a solid job. We've held onto him now for two years. It's time to see if the development is there.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby The Rock on Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:51 am

Battle Tested20 wrote:Yeah Pietrus would sure be nice to get. If not, that's fine too. I've been with the crowd that says we should give Ebanks a real chance this year and finally see what we have with him.


Wow if Pietrus is still available I'd grab him ASAP. No offense to Ebanks but Pietrus has tons of playoff experience, he can hit the 3.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakerfan2 on Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:58 am

Anyone have Pietrus defensive stats vs Wade/Lebron/Melo/Durant/Kobe?
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby last stand on Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:11 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:Anyone have Pietrus defensive stats vs Wade/Lebron/Melo/Durant/Kobe?


no but i can tell you his defensive rating is better than barnes. and he's not a fake thug, technical machine, no shot making, poor defending, limited player either
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Josh Howard To The Spurs?

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Josh Howard To The Spurs?

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Free agent forward Josh Howard to visit Spurs on Monday, source tells Y! Sports.


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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Center Court on Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:58 pm

Pietrus would really complete our bench...

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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakersin4 on Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:17 pm

Oh man.. Hope we're the ones that landed Pietrus..

Upgrades:

Sessions to Nash
Bynum to Dwight
McRoberts to Jamison
Blake (backup SG minutes) to Meeks

Now Barnes to Pietrus?

Wow what an offseason.. Mitch follows that up with Blake + Ebanks for a stud backup PG.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Ariza3 on Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:25 pm

watching the videos in the barnes appreciation thread im actually looking forward to seeing ebanks play backup sf. i dont think we need to spend money and get a sf. he had solid games when given minutes. he hustled, played good d, was lost a little bit sometimes but thats correctable, shot that midrange and close shots well, cut to the basket and finished, hes athletic and young, and still improving.

i like him and hope that when the season starts hes still the backup sf and sharing minutes only with metta. also watching those videos (especially barnes near trip-doub against the mavs) metta was looking good in that game and was attacking. if hes in better shape it should be a great thing to see.

i think at the SF spot with a new and improved (better than towards the end of the reg season) metta plus ebanks backing him up who was solid for us last season when given minutes and now hopefully improved a bit and now has a definite role, should thrive. i think were set at the SF spot and dont want ebanks to be shafted again this season. i think he'll be great filling in for metta on the bench
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakersin4 on Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:33 pm

Ariza3 wrote:watching the videos in the barnes appreciation thread im actually looking forward to seeing ebanks play backup sf. i dont think we need to spend money and get a sf. he had solid games when given minutes. he hustled, played good d, was lost a little bit sometimes but thats correctable, shot that midrange and close shots well, cut to the basket and finished, hes athletic and young, and still improving.

i like him and hope that when the season starts hes still the backup sf and sharing minutes only with metta. also watching those videos (especially barnes near trip-doub against the mavs) metta was looking good in that game and was attacking. if hes in better shape it should be a great thing to see.

i think at the SF spot with a new and improved (better than towards the end of the reg season) metta plus ebanks backing him up who was solid for us last season when given minutes and now hopefully improved a bit and now has a definite role, should thrive. i think were set at the SF spot and dont want ebanks to be shafted again this season. i think he'll be great filling in for metta on the bench

It's not like we'd break the bank for Pietrus. We're either signing him for the minimum or not at all. Why can't we have both guys? It's not like Ron is going to be around a whole lot longer. & of course the possibility that guys will be seeing alot of garbage time this year.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:00 pm

^ Because there's no clear depth chart if they're both here. Just like Derek Fisher had to be traded when we acquired Sessions. There has to be a clear order or Mike Brown will get confused.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby OX1947 on Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:38 pm

Lakers do not need another shooting guard. Meeks is the back up shooting guard. In a perfect scenario as of now would be a way to trade Blake for draft picks or whatever and picking up Barbosa. Two reasons here that would make sense is that Barbosa can score off the bench regularly and for the vet min. Blake makes too much money for a guy who pitches 0 a lot of the time. Lakers have the best starting lineup in my book. All they need is scoring off the bench. Barbosa has played back up PG before, while not a Nash time PG, he can still handle that ball and score off the bench and would be for the cheap. The Lakers have until the trading deadline to dump Blake if they sign Barbosa for the vet min. Duhon is another guy but he is more manageable with some of his pay being non-guaranteed.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakerfan2 on Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:12 am

Although Barbosa is better than Blake, he's not what we need at the backup PG. He doesn't play defense, and he's a SG in a PG body.

Yes, he'll come cheap, yes, he'll put up points. But, that's why we brought on Jamison and Meeks.

We need a PG that can handle the ball, take care of the ball, make the right decisions, and lead the floor. Being able to hit a 3 would be nice, but we just need a young guard to just be confident and be in control.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:58 am

lakerfan2 wrote:Although Barbosa is better than Blake, he's not what we need at the backup PG. He doesn't play defense, and he's a SG in a PG body.

Yes, he'll come cheap, yes, he'll put up points. But, that's why we brought on Jamison and Meeks.

We need a PG that can handle the ball, take care of the ball, make the right decisions, and lead the floor. Being able to hit a 3 would be nice, but we just need a young guard to just be confident and be in control.

This, sir, is what I've been saying all along and getting such crap for.

The problem for the Lakers is that such a young guard doesn't exist. At least not one that is obtainable by LA. My only reason for bringing in Barbosa would be to shed Blake's 8 million dollars. Barbosa would be a worse PG, but he'd be cheaper and would still give our team a different look.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby JSM on Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:27 am

With the Spurs looking at J-Ho now, that appears to be one less option for T-Mac. Just saying.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakerfan2 on Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:32 am

I'd rather have Ebanks play defense, then T-Mac do anything.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:34 am

^ Well McGrady would play behind him. He'd be a mentor/depth kind of guy. Vet, good for the locker room, hungry and wants to help a team win a ring. That'd be his role with this team.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby JSM on Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:40 am

lakerfan2 wrote:I'd rather have Ebanks play defense, then T-Mac do anything.

I'm not satisfied with our depth at SF. When Ebanks loses favor with Brown, again, which he will at some point in the season -- whether it's his fault or not -- Brown's option is then to play Kobe as backup SF and increase his minutes. Jamison could see some of that time too, but that's putting too much faith in Brown. I'd gladly take T-Mac for that insurance role for a 1 year, vet min guaranteed deal in a heart beat.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby dj vitus on Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:40 am

lakerswiz wrote:I'm not really too sure who I'd take from those available, but damn...

How crazy would it be if T-Mac came on over? I just have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

He used to be so damn good. And then just fell off.

Here we have Kobe, been in the league longer and at their closest point was always a few steps ahead of T-Mac. And T-Mac might come over to spectate from the bench.

I dunno. Just sort of strange to me. T-Mac is like Steve Francis to me at this point. A great player from my childhood. It's weird he's still around.

It's sad to see how he's declined so fast, and to think he's only 32! :man4:
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Ariza3 on Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:51 pm

Nate Robinson's contract is $400k...kinda wish we went after him. Nate and Meeks as the backup guards would have been pretty cool..barring that we got rid of Blake. But oh well, im okay with Blake i guess, if he does what he should, just wish we got Nate. dirt cheap.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Center Court on Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:28 pm

JSM wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:I'd rather have Ebanks play defense, then T-Mac do anything.

I'm not satisfied with our depth at SF. When Ebanks loses favor with Brown, again, which he will at some point in the season -- whether it's his fault or not -- Brown's option is then to play Kobe as backup SF and increase his minutes. Jamison could see some of that time too, but that's putting too much faith in Brown. I'd gladly take T-Mac for that insurance role for a 1 year, vet min guaranteed deal in a heart beat.


If Mitch felt like that'd have been the case, I'm guessing Barnes would be a Laker again.

I still think Pietrus can be a huge addition to this bench but not sure that Mitch and co feel like spending even more money.

Artest/Ebanks/Jamison/Kobe/Clark can all play the 3 on some level.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:23 am

Ariza3 wrote:Nate Robinson's contract is $400k...kinda wish we went after him. Nate and Meeks as the backup guards would have been pretty cool..barring that we got rid of Blake. But oh well, im okay with Blake i guess, if he does what he should, just wish we got Nate. dirt cheap.

No it's not, that's impossible. A 400,000 dollar contract is only available to 2nd round picks or undrafted players. Nate has been in the league for multiple years meaning he gets a veteran's minimum contract. Due to the number of years he's played, his contract is worth about 1.15 million.

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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby JSM on Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:29 am

^ Only $400k is guaranteed, if he makes it past 1/1 then it becomes fully guaranteed and they're on the hook for the rest.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:36 am

Center Court wrote:
JSM wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:I'd rather have Ebanks play defense, then T-Mac do anything.

I'm not satisfied with our depth at SF. When Ebanks loses favor with Brown, again, which he will at some point in the season -- whether it's his fault or not -- Brown's option is then to play Kobe as backup SF and increase his minutes. Jamison could see some of that time too, but that's putting too much faith in Brown. I'd gladly take T-Mac for that insurance role for a 1 year, vet min guaranteed deal in a heart beat.


If Mitch felt like that'd have been the case, I'm guessing Barnes would be a Laker again.

I still think Pietrus can be a huge addition to this bench but not sure that Mitch and co feel like spending even more money.

Artest/Ebanks/Jamison/Kobe/Clark can all play the 3 on some level.

Barnes would have to play behind Ebanks, demotions are tough to handle for everyone. He was never coming back.

Pietrus want's more than we can really offer him.

McGrady would be a great pickup. Jamison and Clark are a little on the slow/heavy side to play SF consistently. McGrady would give us some solid depth if he's willing to take that position.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:37 am

JSM wrote:^ Only $400k is guaranteed, if he makes it past 1/1 then it becomes fully guaranteed and they're on the hook for the rest.

True, but if he's then dropped, anyone can pick him up again and if he's picked up again he'll have to be picked up for the vet's minimum (i.e. if the Lakers want him).
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Ariza3 on Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:26 pm

oooh got it. thought it sounded too cheap. thanks
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