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Re: Roster Improvement: roster set? D. West WAIVED (p. 108)

Postby LTLakerFan on Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:51 am

ElginTheGreat wrote:So is Delonte West going to be this year's official ClubLakers "Back-up Player who is the Key to Everything?" for the entire season?

Trying to remember who the first guy was CL. Marcus Banks maybe?

(...sorry guys. Not trying to troll, but I couldn't resist...)


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Re: Roster Improvement: roster set? D. West WAIVED (p. 108)

Postby Lakerman JSJ on Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:19 am

ElginTheGreat wrote:So is Delonte West going to be this year's official ClubLakers "Back-up Player who is the Key to Everything?" for the entire season?

Trying to remember who the first guy was CL. Marcus Banks maybe?

(...sorry guys. Not trying to troll, but I couldn't resist...)


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Re: Roster Improvement: roster set? D. West WAIVED (p. 108)

Postby Battle Tested20 on Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:21 pm

Yeah, I would say it was Marcus Banks :man10: :man10:

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Re: Roster Improvement: roster set? D. West WAIVED (p. 108)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:03 pm

Former Dallas Mavericks guard Delonte West wants a new job. And he's posted a résumé of sorts on Twitter in hopes of getting one.

West, who was suspended indefinitely and then waived by Dallas earlier this week, used Twitter on Wednesday to list his experience and abilities. He noted that he would play for a non-guaranteed, league-minimum deal because, as he tweeted, "by the time I get there u see what I'm about&what I bring everyday."

West, clearly having fun with his job search, tweeted that he's not "comin to yr team riddin a motorcycle," a reference to the reason he was suspended for the first 10 games of the 2010-11 season. West was arrested in September 2009 for carrying three loaded guns and a knife on his motorcycle when he was stopped for speeding. He pleaded guilty to weapons charges in July 2010 and was sentenced to eight months of electronic monitoring, two years of unsupervised probation, 40 hours of community service and psychological counseling.

West, 29, was waived Monday by the Mavericks because they were concerned he wasn't a good influence on the younger players on the roster, sources told ESPNDallas.com's Tim MacMahon. The roster move allowed Dallas to make room for center Eddy Curry.

West signed a one-year deal with Dallas during the summer for the veteran's minimum ($1.2 million) after averaging 9.6 points and 3.2 assists as a role player last season. He also provided solid defense and gave the club some good energy playing either guard spot.

Mavericks owner Mark Cuban said it was "in the best interest of the organization" to waive West and that it was based on numerous factors. Cuban did not want to get into specifics.

"I like Delonte a lot," he said prior to Tuesday's season-opening win against the Los Angeles Lakers. "It was a difficult decision and we'll leave it at that.

"You always have to remember, the culture of the organization comes first. If you lose the culture and it goes in the wrong direction, then you've lost your team. We've had years like that where we've lost certain guys or I wasn't diligent on certain guys and it's hurt the team in a big way."

West, who has bipolar disorder, was suspended one game Oct. 16; according to sources, the punishment was related to an outburst in the locker room following a preseason win. He was suspended a second time Oct. 25 for what the Mavericks called "conduct detrimental to the team."

West, though, still wants to play basketball, if his Twitter pleas are any indication. He says he's a "High Q player/person ..low cost...great influence on young P," and added, "Only ask for communication about when checks come up missin or short...other than that...let's win some games and have fun while we doin it!"

West admits in a later tweet that this is "my resamay."

"Coach&?, let's go&take me a day or two to figure offense and a few mins to figure out defense...!!"


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Re: Roster Improvement: roster set? D. West WAIVED (p. 108)

Postby gill on Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:04 pm

Anything but Blake...
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Re: Roster Improvement: roster set? D. West WAIVED (p. 108)

Postby Tragic on Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:06 pm

ElginTheGreat wrote:So is Delonte West going to be this year's official ClubLakers "Back-up Player who is the Key to Everything?" for the entire season?

Trying to remember who the first guy was CL. Marcus Banks maybe?

(...sorry guys. Not trying to troll, but I couldn't resist...)


I remember when Steve Blake was that guy... :disagree:
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Re: Roster Improvement: roster set? D. West WAIVED (p. 108)

Postby khmrP on Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:19 pm

share sentiment of ANYTHING but Blake but also add Duhon, I think he's actually worse then Blake if that were at all possible.
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Re: Roster Improvement: roster set? D. West WAIVED (p. 108)

Postby Vasashi17 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:58 pm

Waaaaay too premature to really take this seriously right now....but lets say the Lakers keep losing...would you guys put Pau on the block?

On ESPN, Magic and the fellas on NBA Countdown were talking "fantasy" trades and Magic's suggestion was Pau for Josh Smith. We've seen this trade rumor before.

Saves money & you get more flexibility with Josh being an expirng, makes you younger and more athletic, he's Dwight's boy and lastly weak side defense gets better. You obviously lose a high IQ player and a great teammate in Pau. Where you get better defensively, you lose Pau's great offensive game.

I'm not sure I would do it right now...but it's interesting moving forward...especially since Magic has hinted at potential Lakers moves and for the most part they have come to fruition.
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Re: Roster Improvement: roster set? D. West WAIVED (p. 108)

Postby lakersyunowin on Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:01 pm

Vasashi17 wrote:Waaaaay too premature to really take this seriously right now....but lets say the Lakers keep losing...would you guys put Pau on the block?

On ESPN, Magic and the fellas on NBA Countdown were talking "fantasy" trades and Magic's suggestion was Pau for Josh Smith. We've seen this trade rumor before.

Saves money & you get more flexibility with Josh being an expirng, makes you younger and more athletic, he's Dwight's boy and lastly weak side defense gets better. You obviously lose a high IQ player and a great teammate in Pau. Where you get better defensively, you lose Pau's great offensive game.

I'm not sure I would do it right now...but it's interesting moving forward...especially since Magic has hinted at potential Lakers moves and for the most part they have come to fruition.


agree, too soon to seriously discuss this. gotta see how we look in a few weeks. i love pau and all, but i don't think i'd lose any sleep if it happened.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby therealdeal on Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:36 pm

Just seeing how crucial Pau is to the offense here, I'd say no. His passing ability is extremely important to this offense and to Dwight's success.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby lakersStan24 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:40 pm

Pau's Has Had a Great Start So No
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby dj vitus on Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:43 pm

therealdeal wrote:Just seeing how crucial Pau is to the offense here, I'd say no. His passing ability is extremely important to this offense and to Dwight's success.

I love his passing ability, too, and he's a better outside shooter (I think). But he has absolutely zero lateral quickness anymore, and opponents just go around him all the time. Even Sacre looks better at guarding people face-up.

I don't know if J Smoove is that much of a better defender, but we seriously need youth, quickness, and athleticism to improve our pathetic looking defense, so it's gonna be hard finding the perfect piece for Pau if it were even on the table.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby karacha on Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:44 pm

Pau might be sleepwalking right now, but his passing ability is something we can use. He makes Dwight better with those nifty passes. His D doesn't look good though.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby Weezy on Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:45 pm

I don't think I'd trade even a washed up Pau for Josh Smith . For one thing, Pau is a legit 7 footer, he can play both PF and C, and he's a very smart player and good passer. Lastly, we ask for him to be more aggressive sometimes, but at least he's not a chucker,throwing up and bricking 3s all the time. I'd rather keep Pau if the best we can do is Josh Smith, or maybe trade Pau for a couple of solid young players with potential.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby hollywood swinger on Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:48 pm

i thought about this trade this morning and started to post the idea here but thought i would get royally bashed for suggesting it. :man10: i would do that trade in an instant.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby kray28 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:58 pm

That would be a horrendously bad trade.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby kray28 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:00 pm

karacha wrote:Pau might be sleepwalking right now, but his passing ability is something we can use. He makes Dwight better with those nifty passes. His D doesn't look good though.


Maybe if Brown managed his minutes better, he'd be able to give more consistent production. But the way things are going, the brick wall isn't too far away for Pau.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby dj vitus on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:02 pm

I just remembered Josh Smith is one of the better pick and roll players in the league. Also, some of his notable stats last season:

9.6 rebs
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1.4 steals


Not bad. I just don't like the 17 shot attempts for 19 points. But maybe with Nash he'll be more efficient. I haven't actually seen him play many games, so it's hard to judge.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby Kit on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:03 pm

For me I think Pau is just being aggressive inconsistently.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby Finwë on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:16 pm

I don't like Josh Smith, and I wouldn't trade Pau for him. Having said that, he would make us better defensively (unquestionably) and I would be a little intrigued to see how playing with Nash (and other great players that draw attention) made him look
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:25 pm

Weezy wrote:I don't think I'd trade even a washed up Pau for Josh Smith . For one thing, Pau is a legit 7 footer, he can play both PF and C, and he's a very smart player and good passer. Lastly, we ask for him to be more aggressive sometimes, but at least he's not a chucker,throwing up and bricking 3s all the time. I'd rather keep Pau if the best we can do is Josh Smith, or maybe trade Pau for a couple of solid young players with potential.



Oh yeah!.... no way man.... if we had Smith could imagine the :man4: Dunks we'd get........


Smith is just about the most overrated player in the league..... can't shoot.... can't handle the ball, doesn't have a post game..... isn't a good defender (and no I don't count blocked shots as good defense) and is only effective in the open court..... Something that doesn't happen in the playoffs regularly.... or on this team.

Pau for 2 or 3 players would be a good deal IMHO.... Give me a serviceable big that can play PF and C.... a SF that can create his own shot and shoot the 3 and a real back-up level point guard and you can have Pau, Ebanks and Blake.....
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby raviator on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:28 pm

Besides didn't Kobe say as long as he's here, Pau would be too? Also do we really want Pau to start worrying about being traded again after he's moved past all the rumors last year?
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:37 pm

raviator wrote:Besides didn't Kobe say as long as he's here, Pau would be too? Also do we really want Pau to start worrying about being traded again after he's moved past all the rumors last year?


Where has he moved?..... He looks the same to me....

That's becoming just an excuse.... first it was our previous Center getting too many touches and pushing him away from the hoop.... then it was "he's worried about being traded"..... what's next.... they were out the ones with "wings"......
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Re: Roster Improvement: Magic on ESPN hinted Pau for JSmith

Postby karacha on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:41 pm

Rooscooter wrote:Pau for 2 or 3 players would be a good deal IMHO.... Give me a serviceable big that can play PF and C.... a SF that can create his own shot and shoot the 3 and a real back-up level point guard and you can have Pau, Ebanks and Blake.....


Hehe. Like someone would actually take that offer. It would be nice for us, yeas. No question.
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