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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby themasterphil on Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:49 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:Jarrett Jack would be the top of my list. Even though he's going to command money. If he'd take 3yrs@Mini-MLE., :deal:

that would be awesome but I think he is gonna try to take more money...maybe if we move Metta and Blake that can happen....
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby khmrP on Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:54 pm

themasterphil wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:Jarrett Jack would be the top of my list. Even though he's going to command money. If he'd take 3yrs@Mini-MLE., :deal:

that would be awesome but I think he is gonna try to take more money...maybe if we move Metta and Blake that can happen....


Even if we moved both we still can only offer the mini MLE, unless we get trade exception for em but even then I think the S&T restriction would kick in since we're over the tax threshold.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby themasterphil on Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:56 pm

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lakerfan2 wrote:Jarrett Jack would be the top of my list. Even though he's going to command money. If he'd take 3yrs@Mini-MLE., :deal:

that would be awesome but I think he is gonna try to take more money...maybe if we move Metta and Blake that can happen....


Even if we moved both we still can only offer the mini MLE, unless we get trade exception for em but even then I think the S&T restriction would kick in since we're over the tax threshold.

i am not expert for salary cap so i didnt count on these things....its sad to know that, but hope is a hope, right... :jam2:
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:04 pm

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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:10 pm

Raja Bell?.... I'm not sure what's more sad..... Trying to get a beyond washed up Raja Bell or anyone thinking it will make a difference.....

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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Helljumper on Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:09 pm

We have an extra roster spot right? I'd rather use it on Bell than nobody. Worst case, he's washed up garbage and can't crack our rotation. Best case, he can give us 10-15 minutes at back-up SF (a spot on our rotation that currently belongs to ... no one). He has the respect of Kobe, he is apparently working out and wanting to play, he's still a 39% three point shooter. And I'm sure that even at his age, he's still a competent defender compared to a lot of our other players.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:19 pm

Helljumper wrote:We have an extra roster spot right? I'd rather use it on Bell than nobody. Worst case, he's washed up garbage and can't crack our rotation. Best case, he can give us 10-15 minutes at back-up SF (a spot on our rotation that currently belongs to ... no one). He has the respect of Kobe, he is apparently working out and wanting to play, he's still a 39% three point shooter. And I'm sure that even at his age, he's still a competent defender compared to a lot of our other players.


He was none of those things in Utah..... Last year. He's a year older and hasn't played in a while.

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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:31 pm

A body is better than no body, plain and simple. Even if it's an older body like that. I personally hate Bell and I think we ought not to sign anyone if we're going to just bring him in.

But hey. A body is a body. And if it's a body that two of our most important players want/respect then I'll trust their judgement. He won't give us 10-15 competent minutes, but 5-10 would be nice. Something to throw out there that isn't Ebanks or Kobe and Ron playing more minutes.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Kobe8Fan on Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:53 pm

Let's see if the Jazz buyout Raja Bell and if the Lakers are gonna sign him when the waiver deadline comes on March 1st.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Vasashi17 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:12 am

therealdeal wrote:A body is better than no body, plain and simple. Even if it's an older body like that. I personally hate Bell and I think we ought not to sign anyone if we're going to just bring him in.

But hey. A body is a body. And if it's a body that two of our most important players want/respect then I'll trust their judgement. He won't give us 10-15 competent minutes, but 5-10 would be nice. Something to throw out there that isn't Ebanks or Kobe and Ron playing more minutes.


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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby trodgers on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:01 am

Yeah, but Alex Kennedy is such a school boy. Just look at his Twitter avatar.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:15 am

Vasashi17 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:A body is better than no body, plain and simple. Even if it's an older body like that. I personally hate Bell and I think we ought not to sign anyone if we're going to just bring him in.

But hey. A body is a body. And if it's a body that two of our most important players want/respect then I'll trust their judgement. He won't give us 10-15 competent minutes, but 5-10 would be nice. Something to throw out there that isn't Ebanks or Kobe and Ron playing more minutes.



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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Vasashi17 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:21 am

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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:46 am

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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:55 am

Both Jack and Landry have been excellent steals salary wise ... Landry is making Blake money :man10:
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby D.B. Cooper on Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:00 am

I've always liked both but know they are pipe, especially Jack.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Vasashi17 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:34 am

Spoiler:
Real, we gotta get a bet going where the loser has to post only in youtube clips...haha....seriously though, I love discussing Lakers with you.


Getting back to the topic at hand, I really really don't like Bell...but like Real said, a body is a body and if we can't bring in a big to spare Dwight heavy minutes, then might as well bring in a guy that can spare Kobe minutes....cause that dude has been putting in time this season and we really really REALly can't afford losing him.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:39 am

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I've been down that bet before :man10: I had to post only pictures for a month and that was way too difficult. We'll think of something :beer:


I think Bell comes in and gives us more than Ebanks. Some smart passing, some fit within D'Antoni's system... There's no reason he can't hit outside shots for us and give us 6 fouls right?
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:40 am

Another bet happening!!!.....

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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakersin4 on Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:38 pm

Hopefully signing Bell would mean Ron comes out of games when he starts jacking up shots like he's Kobe.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:49 pm

We need another backup PG. I can see why the Lakers were offering Blake for a 2nd rounder. Calderon is available this summer; he'd be much more of an upgrade. Also, if Nash does get hurt, we can integrate him in the starting lineup and the drop-off wouldn't be that bad.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby The Rock on Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:52 pm

We need another SG/SF type I cannot take MWP playing 36+ mins a night anymore. I think at this point the FO has probably packed it in for this year, we are desperate for a backup SF and theyve done nothing
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby karacha on Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:05 pm

SF should be a priority right now. The rest we have covered, for the most part.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Kobe8Fan on Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:10 pm

karacha wrote:SF should be a priority right now. The rest we have covered, for the most part.

I think SF is covered. Earl can play SF. He usually starts with the 2nd unit in the 2nd and 4th quarters when Metta is resting. We need a big. A big who can rebound, play a little D and block shots.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:05 pm

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karacha wrote:SF should be a priority right now. The rest we have covered, for the most part.

I think SF is covered. Earl can play SF. He usually starts with the 2nd unit in the 2nd and 4th quarters when Metta is resting. We need a big. A big who can rebound, play a little D and block shots.


The SF position is our biggest deficiency. We have one person on the team that can create his own shot and one that can create for others. Other than that we are a group of players that need to be set up to score.

The SF position in the league has become nearly the same as the 2 guard position with players that can both create for themselves as well as for others. We have MWP who works his butt off but isn't very good at doing much of anything on the offensive end anymore. He will hit some shots in bunches but the balance of his offensive game is best played in the paint where it's already too crowded.

If we had a player out there that could demand to be guarded closely everywhere AND be able to create off the dribble it would open the middle for Dwight to get his dunks and definitely create space for Kobe on the weak side. That has been our biggest problem for as long as I can remember at the SF position. In the Tri it was masked to a certain degree..... in this offense it's exposed.
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