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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby C0TT0NCANDY on Wed May 08, 2013 11:43 am

What does everyone think of Randy Foye as a possible back-up SG next year?
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby khmrP on Wed May 08, 2013 11:45 am

C0TT0NCANDY wrote:What does everyone think of Randy Foye as a possible back-up SG next year?


he'll get lite up just like Meeks defensively, only difference is he'll obviously hit his 3's at a better rate than Meeks.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby C0TT0NCANDY on Wed May 08, 2013 11:49 am

khmrP wrote:he'll get lite up just like Meeks defensively, only difference is he'll obviously hit his 3's at a better rate than Meeks.


I agree with you, but nonetheless he is a far better option then Meeks... maybe someone like Willie Green or Wesley Matthews will be a good addition to the Lakers.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby C0TT0NCANDY on Wed May 08, 2013 11:54 am

@LarryCoon says Brewer, Daniels, Garcia & Delfino are possible #Lakers additions. #ESPNLANow discuss: http://es.pn/RfXDFW


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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby last stand on Wed May 08, 2013 12:01 pm

We need guys who can run and shoot. Really simple idea, hard to find.

Now a healthy granger is pretty much the perfect compliment to Kobe and Howard. Probably the best in the league

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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby C0TT0NCANDY on Wed May 08, 2013 12:03 pm

Granger's knees are almost shot... taking him is a big risk... even if the rewards are bigger if the signing pans out.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby davriver290 on Wed May 08, 2013 12:04 pm

Delfino would be nice...
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby C0TT0NCANDY on Wed May 08, 2013 12:09 pm

Yeah, he would be a excellent addition... he hits 3's at a higher rate then most of the players on the Lakers squad and he gets good timely steals... he would probably break-out if he became a Laker.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby khmrP on Wed May 08, 2013 12:10 pm

C0TT0NCANDY wrote:Granger's knees are almost shot... taking him is a big risk... even if the rewards are bigger if the signing pans out.


why a big risk? He doesn't work out, so be it, he expires just like Pau. Mgmt and Antoni can keep harping bout training camp and continunity all they want but its not gona make Pau younger, a better defender and less injury prone...all those things are going to get worse. IF Granger was completely healthy there is very little chance we could even get him for Pau but he's not and thats a chance we take as in buy low, we pretty much took same risk when we traded for Pau (had issues with his back or something at the time). Indy is obviously moving on from him due to George emergence and I agree Pau is only an opt to Indy if they dont want to commit long term salary to West who is just as old as Pau.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby C0TT0NCANDY on Wed May 08, 2013 12:13 pm

I agree with you, I'm fully in the Granger bandwagon... it's only up to the Mgmt to make it happen.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby khmrP on Wed May 08, 2013 12:25 pm

Garcia/Delfino look like solid adds to, I'd be happy with either one if we couldn't get Rush. Both be'd great with me too, Garcia looks like that punk/dbag ala Barnes :man10: and Delfino could be our resident Meeks but given how he's been killing us all of last season, I hope he conts that here and doesn't forget how to shoot AND MAKE his shots like Meeks and countless other shooters that have failed us.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Doc Brown on Wed May 08, 2013 12:25 pm

Jordan Farmar returning to NBA?
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Remember Jordan Farmar, the former UCLA star who went on to serve as a solid reserve on the Los Angeles Lakers before joining the then-New Jersey Nets? He's been playing overseas the past two seasons, so it's understandable if you forgot about him, but the 26-year-old is reportedly considering a return to the NBA next season.

Farmar, who fantasy basketball players might remember as a sneaky resource for steals and 3-pointers, signed a three-year deal in Turkey prior the season after being bought out by the Atlanta Hawks -- he was one of the many players included in the Joe Johnson trade.

But Farmar is eligible to leave for the NBA every summer, according to LakersNation.com, and recently expressed his desire to return stateside in an interview with BustaSports.com.

"I think I’ll be back much sooner than the end of the contract," he said. "So, I feel I gave Europe a try, and that I have plenty years ahead of me in the NBA, but I still have the option to return here and play in Turkey again, if the right [NBA] deal and situation doesn’t present itself. But I feel that it’s time for me to go back and enjoy free agency."

Two teams that immediately come to mind as possible suitors: the Los Angeles Clippers and Golden State Warriors. The Clips could be in the market for a backup point guard if they resign Chris Paul and trade Eric Bledsoe, and both are strong possibilities. The attraction of returning to L.A. would probably be strong for Farmar. As for the Warriors, it may be out of their price range to bring back Jarrett Jack, whose poor decision-making in the playoffs has aggravated the fan base considerably. Farmar would be a cheaper, yet solid, alternative.


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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Chillbongo on Wed May 08, 2013 12:36 pm

Never thought I'd be giddy at the thought of getting Farmar back.

Is there even room for him? We have Blake and Nash. Blake is way more effective, but Farmar provides that youth and speed we need, and can also stay in front of his man on D.

I'd be upset if the Clippers got him. Oh and Eric Bledsoe on the Lakers would make me wet.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby C0TT0NCANDY on Wed May 08, 2013 12:39 pm

Blodsoe would be a great addition.... doesn't Gasol for Blodsoe/Crawford/Odom work?
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby khmrP on Wed May 08, 2013 12:41 pm

C0TT0NCANDY wrote:Blodsoe would be a great addition.... doesn't Gasol for Blodsoe/Crawford/Odom work?


clipps wouldn't do that and 2ndly Odom is a FA now.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Chillbongo on Wed May 08, 2013 12:53 pm

We're not moving Gasol to the Clips. We'd have to give them Earl Clark or something. And probably a pick.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakerfan2 on Wed May 08, 2013 12:57 pm

I think the roles we need address come in this order.

1. A player who can create their own shots without needing to be setup and penetrate effectively, particularly to lead the bench. PG or SF.

2. A backcourt player who can provide energy and hustle defensively. Go after rebounds, play physical. PG or SG.

3. A consistent shooter. SG.

LA: Granger, Hinrich
IND: Boozer
CHI: Gasol

Indiana - With David West at the end of his contract, they'll get a better version of him in Boozer without having to resign him.

Chicago - Gets a post scorer to play next to Noah and Rose, something they can add to their arsenal outside of Rose.

LA - Gets a player who can create their own and an energy backcourt player to play defense and hustle.

If Metta decides to restructure his contract for cheaper, that would be appreciated. Otherwise it's a trade for a draft pick or amnesty.

Resign Earl Clark and Jamison (if possible). Try to target Foye or Belinelli with the mini-MLE.

Howard/Hill
Clark/Jamison
Metta/Granger
Kobe/Hinrich/Foye
Nash/Blake

Unrealistically:

Chris Paul signs for the mini-MLE for 2013 and waits for the max in 2014 when everyone comes off the books.

Trade Pau for Kevin Love Andrei Kirilenko.

Resign Clark

Howard/Hill
Love/Clark
Kirilenko
Kobe/Blake/Meeks
Paul/Nash
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Wed May 08, 2013 1:30 pm

khmrP wrote:TDLR, I can't see those spoiler stuff but I assume its just youtube clips of them dunking from your comments. I could show you those spectacular dunks of Meeks this season too and make him seem like a good player. Morrow has steadily gotten worse and less PT every single year now since leaving GSW, Wright has also delcined. Dunleavy is avg. the same #'s and when watching all 3 randomly, I see less standing around waiting for a shot to be created for them out of Dunleavy the most out of the 3. With the bucks I saw alot of off-ball movt out of dunleavy and shot creation. Out of Wright, I saw mostly standing at the 3's and not much else, while Morrow well dude couldn't crack the rotation on bad Nets team the year before and couldn't crack it in Atl either so just have to be cautious of that, I dont want another Jodi Meeks signing again. Vet min for Dunleavy is fine too if he accepts, I would also prefer to toss that mMLE at a younger/faster paint penetration guard.

I understand what you're saying. Those two aren't the best basketball players. If Dunleavy had their athleticism, I'd go for him all day, but he's older, he's slower, and he's not what we need from a youth standpoint. If he's here for depth purposes then fantastic, but I'd rather have any of the guys I mentioned play BEFORE him.

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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Savory Griddles on Wed May 08, 2013 2:18 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:I think the roles we need address come in this order.

1. A player who can create their own shots without needing to be setup and penetrate effectively, particularly to lead the bench. PG or SF.

2. A backcourt player who can provide energy and hustle defensively. Go after rebounds, play physical. PG or SG.

3. A consistent shooter. SG.

LA: Granger, Hinrich
IND: Boozer
CHI: Gasol

Indiana - With David West at the end of his contract, they'll get a better version of him in Boozer without having to resign him.

Chicago - Gets a post scorer to play next to Noah and Rose, something they can add to their arsenal outside of Rose.

LA - Gets a player who can create their own and an energy backcourt player to play defense and hustle.



If we somehow land Granger, it will likely be for a straight up swap (plus filler if necessary).

Why would the Pacers want Boozer over West? Just because West is off the books doesn’t mean they won’t resign him. You want to say Boozer is better than West, but that’s very debatable. Boozer grabs more boards, but scores less on a lower percentage. Also, like I mentioned earlier in this thread, apparently West is the “leader” of that team. Not the best player, but the leader in the same way Fisher was for us a few years ago.

If West doesn’t resign, that’s when we have a chance to sneak in with Gasol. Gasol + Hibbert up front would be a tough matchup for Miami. But I think Indy will try to resign West.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Lakerjones on Wed May 08, 2013 3:02 pm

^^ They may resign West, and like you said, that would be the one hindrance I could see to a Pau/Granger deal which would help each team out. If we did do that deal we would be taking back one of their cheap expiring guards - either Hansbrough or Stephenson to make the numbers work.

If they want to get rid of Granger the trade makes a lot of sense, although of course they could just wait for him to expire. Yeah, really depends on whether they would rather try to resign West and if he's willing. I could see them going either way. Pau gives them better ball movement, better post play, and a guy who can play C as well as PF. West gives them better mid-range shooting at the 4. Neither one of them is much of a defender.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby C0TT0NCANDY on Wed May 08, 2013 3:13 pm

What does anyone think of Chase Budinger as a possible replacement for Jamison?
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Wed May 08, 2013 3:19 pm

Budinger is a SF, not a PF.

But if he's healthy he'd be a good addition.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Armani on Wed May 08, 2013 3:33 pm

Man... Garcia, Buddinger... all good role-players, but this won't get us back to title contention next year. We might just be screwed until 2014.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Doc Brown on Wed May 08, 2013 4:41 pm

Armani wrote:Man... Garcia, Buddinger... all good role-players, but this won't get us back to title contention next year. We might just be screwed until 2014.


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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Armani on Wed May 08, 2013 5:12 pm

Why would it? This is a 45 win ball club. :man3:

Nash is 40, Kobe 35, Gasol's 90something the way he moves on D. MWP is irrelevant. The lineup needs a major revamp, or it's not going to beat the Heat, or OKC. What, Chase Buddinger is suddenly going to help us beat a 60 win team? It's not happening.
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