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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:48 pm

We bring in Ellis and Morrow........D12 stays
D12 stays......We bring in Ellis and Morrow

Do it Mitch. :jam2:
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:10 pm

We would have to do a lot of waiving/trading players to get under the tax apron though....

Kobe - 30.5 million
Dwight - 20.5 million
Nash - 9.3 million
Hill - 3.6 million
Clark - ~ 3 million
Duhon - Buyout for 1.5 million

Those 6 equal 68.5 million. Luxury tax threshold 71.6 million.

These next 3 have to be rid of in some way that we take no money back. Renounce everyone else.

Blake - 4 million --> Give away for 2nd round pick, then give away 2nd round pick
MWP - 7.7 million --> Re-negotiate deal for 3 million per year
Pau - 19.3 million --> Amnesty

Total at 71.5 million with MWP added on.

It's going to near impossible and take a lot of luck to get under the tax apron to make it happen.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Helljumper on Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:03 pm

^ So that's what we'd have to do just to be able to accept a player in a S&T? Who could we then offer to Milwaukee that A.) Milwaukee would want and B.) has salaries that add up to around whatever we'd be paying Monta?
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:09 pm

Helljumper wrote:^ So that's what we'd have to do just to be able to accept a player in a S&T? Who could we then offer to Milwaukee that A.) Milwaukee would want and B.) has salaries that add up to around whatever we'd be paying Monta?


That's why it's almost impossible.

It would basically have to be MWP (On new deal) / Duhon / Cash (To buyout Duhon)

Pray that Ellis just forces his way here and the Bucks accept it.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakersin4 on Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:14 pm

Is Ellis dumb enough to take the mini MLE this season with the promise he'll get atleast 3/36 from us next offseason? I hope Mitch is bending the hell out of those rules right now. Win while Kobe's still playing by any means necessary.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby khmrP on Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:09 pm

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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby khmrP on Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:13 pm

lakersin4 wrote:Is Ellis dumb enough to take the mini MLE this season with the promise he'll get atleast 3/36 from us next offseason? I hope Mitch is bending the hell out of those rules right now. Win while Kobe's still playing by any means necessary.


I hope you realize mini MLE is for 2 seasons and if Howard is still here along with Nash and Kobe cap hold he wouldn't be able to get a contract like that since he would need to be here for 3 years 1st to get bird rights qualification.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakersin4 on Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:02 am

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lakersin4 wrote:Is Ellis dumb enough to take the mini MLE this season with the promise he'll get atleast 3/36 from us next offseason? I hope Mitch is bending the hell out of those rules right now. Win while Kobe's still playing by any means necessary.


I hope you realize mini MLE is for 2 seasons and if Howard is still here along with Nash and Kobe cap hold he wouldn't be able to get a contract like that since he would need to be here for 3 years 1st to get bird rights qualification.

Did not know the mini mle had to be 2 seasons, can the 2nd be an option so that we can give him some of our cap space next season? But I'm aware of the part about Kobe's cap hold.. We're obviously going to have to renounce his rights. There's no other way to make a splash in FA. We should be able to sign a max guy & still have around 10M to offer Kobe according to some figures I've seen posted here. Or if we got Ellis, we'd be able to bring him back for less than the max, maybe around 11-12 a year.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Battle Tested20 on Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:32 pm

Ellis would be alright, but for all the hoops we could have to jump through and the luck we would have to have he's just not worth that to me.

Let's just do our best at surrounding this team with better role players, you know the Delfino's, Websters, Morrow's, Garcia's, and Brand's, etc..... of the basketball world.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Battle Tested20 on Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:36 pm

I thought this was cool from last night's TWC event where Phil, Jeanie, and Mitch were there and Mitch said this:

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I asked Mitch he he had an idea which of the 4 possible RFA's he'll give qualifying offers to - answer yes - would he tell me who? no


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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Kobe8Fan on Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:44 pm

Report: DeMarcus Cousins Wants Max Extension Or Trade From Kings

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DeMarcus Cousins reportedly wants a maximum contract extension from the Sacramento Kings.

Cousins is eligible for an extension this summer, and his agent, Dan Fegan, is angling for a max offer with the threat of a trade demand if a deal isn't reached.

Barring an agreement, Fegan has instructed Cousins not to speak on anything relating to the Kings team, management or ownership.

Cousins declined to comment when asked about the Kings’ new ownership group, which is headed by Vivek Ranadive.


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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Kobe8Fan on Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:44 pm

Mark Cuban: Mavericks Not Discussing Trade Involving Shawn Marion

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By Tim MacMahon | ESPNDallas.com

Mark Cuban has been open about the Mavericks aggressively exploring opportunities to trade the No. 13 overall pick.

Cuban is adamant, however, that the rumors about the Mavs being willing to part with the pick for minimal return if a team takes Shawn Marion’s $9.32 million salary off their hands are inaccurate. Cuban insists that the Mavs have not had any talks with teams about trading Marion. \

“Not a single discussion,” Cuban said via email to ESPNDallas.com.

At the moment, the Mavs have $41.81 million worth of commitments and cap holds that would count against next season’s cap, which is expected to be set at $58.5 million. That number could increase by six figures if they opt to keep Brandan Wright’s Early Bird rights and/or the nonguaranteed contracts of Bernard James and Josh Akognon.

The Mavs need to make some cuts to have enough cap space to offer Dwight Howard a max contract, which would have a first-year salary of $20.51 million. That’s why they are shopping the lottery pick that comes with a cap hold of $1.66 million.

Trading Marion into another team’s cap space would create enough wiggle room for the Mavs to sign a max player (Howard or Chris Paul) and likely another starter. However, Cuban has repeatedly referenced the 35-year-old Marion’s value to the Mavs and expressed interest in re-signing the only player other than Dirk Nowitzki who remains on the roster from the 2011 title team.

Something else worth considering with the Marion rumors: The Mavs probably wouldn’t do themselves any favors in their pursuit of Howard if they dealt Marion to a team he considers undesirable. Agent Dan Fegan represents both Howard and Marion.


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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Kobe8Fan on Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:45 pm

Source: C.J. Watson To Opt Out Of Contract With Nets

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By Mike Mazzeo | ESPNNewYork.com

A league source confirmed to ESPNNewYork.com Thursday that Nets backup point guard C.J. Watson will opt out of the final year of his contract and become an unrestricted free agent.

Watson had a player option for $1.1 million; he signed a two-year deal last offseason.

The source said it’s possible that he returns -- the Nets can only offer him the veteran’s minimum because they are over the salary cap -- but there will obviously be a marketplace for a backup point guard that can make 3-point shots consistently.

Second-year pro Tyshawn Taylor is the only other point guard currently under contract aside from starter Deron Williams.


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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby JLaker17 on Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:32 am

Gonna be very interesting to see what we try and do, I'm not expecting much though.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby The Rock on Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:00 am

Watching the finals, our roster composition is closer to lottery bound teams than it is to Finals teams. We need athletes, shooters, young blood, toughness, shot creaters from the perimeter. Post up days are over. Duncan got single covered all of Game 6 and 7 by Bosh and Birdman (why do you think Danny Green didnt go off?) and he couldn't make him pay enough times.

Dwight is a great place to start our team but he isnt gonna be a Number 1 option
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Aonex on Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:09 pm

Someone post this already?

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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby karacha on Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:43 pm

Do it, Mitch. :man1:
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:00 pm

I think I'd honestly be okay with both of them joining our team. :man10:

After complaining about them for so long.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby XXIV on Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:17 pm

therealdeal wrote:I think I'd honestly be okay with both of them joining our team. :man10:

After complaining about them for so long.


After dealing with Morris and Ebanks so would I. :man10:
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Kobe8Fan on Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:25 pm

Do you guys think Trev, Jordan, Shannon and Sasha would thrive better in D'Antoni's offense than the Triangle?
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakersin4 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:34 am

Not a free agent thing but the Cavs are rumored to be swapping the #19 pick for the #13 & taking on Marion's salary. Obviously we can't take on salary as is, but seems like a good opportunity to move Pau. Shop him for a cheap rotation player or 2, a pick slightly better than the #19 the Cavs can offer, & a TPE big enough to take on Marion. So we get a decent player or players from the team getting Pau & swap the pick & TPE for Marion & the 13.. After that if we can't package the 13 with another contract & get an upgrade, we hopefully draft a guy good enough to be a rotation player on a rookie contract. We need some of those with this CBA.
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Carl Landry Expected To Opt Out, Test Free Agency

Postby Kobe8Fan on Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:34 am

Carl Landry Expected To Opt Out, Test Free Agency

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OAKLAND -- Warriors forward Carl Landry is leaning toward opting out of the final year of his contract with Golden State and pursuing free agency, according to his agent.

"He's worth a lot more than the contract he has and the direction (we're moving) toward is him opting out," said his agent, Mark Bartelstein. "Things can change, but that's where it's leaning."

Landry signed a two-year, $8 million contract last summer with the second year as a player option. He has until Wednesday, the day before the NBA Draft, to decide whether to opt in to the remaining $4 million or choose to become a free agent. He is not expected to inform the Warriors until close to the deadline.

"(The Warriors) knew it was essentially a one-year deal when he signed," Bartelstein said. "They got him at below market value."

Warriors general manager Bob Myers agreed.

"We didn't think we'd get Landry on the number that we did," he said Wednesday.

Bartelstein, who also represents David Lee and Brandon Rush, said he has not had any discussion with Myers about Landry's situation, but plans to in the coming days.

If Landry opts out, it doesn't completely slam the door on his return to the team. Like Jarrett Jack, whose contract expires on June 30, Landry would still have the option to re-sign with the Warriors -- and that's not out of the question.

"The plan is we'll look at everything with Carl," Bartelstein said. "He loved playing for the Warriors. He called it 'the most fun he's ever had in the NBA' so we'll see look at everything."

Landry averaged 10.8 points and 6.0 rebounds in 81 regular season games.


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Greg Oden Remains Interested In Signing With Heat

Postby Kobe8Fan on Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:40 am

Greg Oden Remains Interested In Signing With Heat

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By CHRIS TOMASSON

MIAMI — Greg Oden and his agent know what everybody else does. If the Miami Heat want to win a third straight NBA title, it might be important to get some size.

Oden is willing to help.

Oden’s agent, Mike Conley, told FOX Sports Florida by phone Friday that the free-agent center remains very interested in signing with the Heat this summer and the feeling is mutual. Conley expects to talk with Heat president Pat Riley when free agency begins July 1 about the 7-foot Oden, the 2007 No. 1 draft pick who hasn’t played in the NBA since December 2009 due to knee problems.

"The Heat need some size, that’s not a secret," Conley said. "Whether it’s in a backup role or whatever, he could help them. I know they’re interested in him and he’s interested in them."

The Heat won their second consecutive title with a 95-88 victory Thursday over the San Antonio Spurs in Game 7 of the NBA Finals. It was their second straight seven-game series after having defeated the Indiana Pacers in the Eastern Conference finals.

The Pacers exposed Miami s lack of size as 7-2 center Roy Hibbert had a dominant series. The Chicago Bulls also pose some problems for Miami in the East with their size.

"The Miami Heat make sense," Conley said of his client possibly landing there.

Other teams in the mix for Oden include Cleveland, San Antonio, Charlotte and Boston. Along with the Heat, Oden, who played at Ohio State, has most been linked with the Cavaliers.

"He still likes Cleveland, but we’ll have to see what they do in the draft," Conley said of the Cavaliers, who have the No. 1 pick in next Thursday’s draft and could take Maryland center Alex Len or Kentucky forward/center Nerlens Noel.

Oden, 25, has been hampered by numerous knee problems since being taken No. 1 by Portland in the 2007 draft. But he has been continuing to rehab in Columbus, Ohio, and his hometown of Indianapolis.

"He’s doing great. I think he could be ready for the regular-season opener," Conley said. "I’m not sure he’d be ready to play significant minutes. But it would depend on whether the team that he went to wanted him to play right away or not."

Conley said Oden is willing to work out with teams in July, including the Heat. But the agent said he "wouldn’t do contact" in a workout.

Miami will have the taxpayer midlevel exception starting at $3.183 million to pay a free agent this summer. However, some of that money might be needed if the Heat want to re-sign center Chris "Birdman" Andersen.

Andersen’s agent, Mark Bryant, told FOX Sports Florida early in the playoffs that Andersen is hopeful of remaining in Miami. Andersen hasn’t been willing yet to speculate on his future.

Also, Milwaukee center Samuel Dalembert, who will become a free agent July 1, told FOX Sports early in the playoffs he has interest in signing with Miami. The Heat pursued Dalembert as a free agent before the 2011-12 season.

When asked whether Miami’s available amount of $3.183 million would be sufficient to sign Oden, Conley said, "We haven’t gone down that road." The market will determine Oden’s value when free agency gets under way.

"He’s really excited,"’ Conley said about Oden wanting to get back in the NBA. "I’ve never seen him this excited."

Chris Tomasson can be reached at christomasson@hotmail.com or on Twitter @christomasson.


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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Kobe8Fan on Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:48 am

Andrei Kirilenko Likely To Wait Until After Draft To Decide On Option

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by: Jerry Zgoda

I spoke with Andrei Kirilenko from the south of France just a few minutes ago and he said he probably won't decide whether to pick up his $10 million-plus option for next year until after next week's draft.

Kirilenko has until June 29 to make up his mind, a curious date because it's two days after the June 27 draft.

"I think it will come right after the draft,'" he said of his decision when reached today just after dinnertime in France.

You'd think the Wolves would want to know Kirilenko's status heading into the draft so they can make informed decisions, but that's the date in the two-year contract David Kahn reached with him last summer.

Kirilenko said he hasn't spoken with his agent at length about the matter yet, but plans to do so in the next three to four days.

Kahn's departure and the arrival of new basketball ops president Flip Saunders probably will affect Kirilenko's decision.

Kahn would have been more likely to offer Kirilenko a substantial three-year extension -- maybe even at similar money -- that he is seeking here at age 32.

Saunders might be willing to offer him, say, a two-year deal if Kirilenko opts out of next season, but you can bet it won't be at $10 million per year.

Kirilenko has said he could walk away from that $10 million because this might be the last chance in his career for a multi-year extension rather than take a chance on next summer, when Miami's big three all could hit free agency if each so chooses.

He also has said his family will help make the decision. His three children like living in the United States and he said late last season that they enjoy living in Minnesota.

Denver's Andre Iguodala last week walked away from a $16 million option for next season, but he's also three years younger than Kirilenko.

This, of course, could go either one, but I think Flip's arrival as boss makes it more likely Kirilenko takes the $10 million guaranteed in his pocket and then sees what summer 2014 brings.


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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:29 am

Kobe8Fan wrote:Do you guys think Trev, Jordan, Shannon and Sasha would thrive better in D'Antoni's offense than the Triangle?

Definitely D'Antoni. More freedom for them to use their athleticism and to get out and run.

But their all smart enough to be effective in the Triangle too.
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