Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

We've already got by far the best 8 man rotation with Kobe, Dwight, Nash, Pau, MWP, Jamison, Hill, and Meeks. I don't think we need to add anyone else.

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:We've already got by far the best 8 man rotation with Kobe, Dwight, Nash, Pau, MWP, Jamison, Hill, and Meeks. I don't think we need to add anyone else.

So if you were Mitch and you could do that trade, you would say no thanks, I'll hold onto Blake and Duhon, we have a good 8 man rotation, no need to get any better?

Doc Brown wrote:

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:We've already got by far the best 8 man rotation with Kobe, Dwight, Nash, Pau, MWP, Jamison, Hill, and Meeks. I don't think we need to add anyone else.

So if you were Mitch and you could do that trade, you would say no thanks, I'll hold onto Blake and Duhon, we have a good 8 man rotation, no need to get any better?

Of course I'd do that trade, but why would Toronto?

therealdeal wrote:

Doc Brown wrote:Honestly if a vet. (Barbosa/Martin/TWill/Delfino...etc.) say Hey I will come play for the minimum, sign me up, do you think Mitch is going to turn them down?

I don't think so and I hope that situation happens.

Glock/DJO/Sacre can either be waived or not signed, if this situation happens.

Either way this offseason has been unreal.

If I'm Barbosa or Martin I'm calling Mitch right now:
"Hey Mr. Kupchak. I've made a lot of money in this league but I don't have a ring. I don't care what my role is as long as I help the team. I see what you're doing over there. I want in."

Martin would get zero mins. Dwight/Pau/Hill all can/will play the 5, Pau/Hill/Jamison will all play the 4. I'm sure he'd want a ring, but he'd get no mins.

Barbosa would have been a better option IMO at the back up 2, but I don't think Mitch signed Meeks to go ahead and add Barbosa, who would either take Meeks time or wouldn't find any. Kobe/Nash/Meeks/Blake/Duhon/Morris/GL0CK/DJO is a very crowded backcourt. Not very deep with talent, but still crowded.

IMO we are done for this off season. I think Barnes (played with Nash/Dwight already) would be a great fit off the bench, but if Mitch and co want to go with the young Ebanks, I can understand that move.

I don't really like Ebanks. I'd like to replace him with a more serviceable backup 3...but we can't have everything.

thkthebest wrote:I don't really like Ebanks. I'd like to replace him with a more serviceable backup 3...but we can't have everything.

Sure we can, it's the "Mitch-Slap" offseason, we are pushing all our chips in the middle at any cost for a chance at a ring, who are you looking at acquiring?

Blatche as that last back up big. Will get heavy mins while Dwight is out, and on back to backs when Gasol or Jamison rest. Kobe, Ron, Nash, and Dwight will get this kid to his potential.

Blatche and Dwight and Hill dominating in 3 years when Kobe and Gasol are playing for 10 mill each and role playings.

tigerjeterkobe wrote:Blatche as that last back up big. Will get heavy mins while Dwight is out, and on back to backs when Gasol or Jamison rest. Kobe, Ron, Nash, and Dwight will get this kid to his potential.

Blatche and Dwight and Hill dominating in 3 years when Kobe and Gasol are playing for 10 mill each and role playings.

Dwight may not miss any games at all, and who knows if Blatche will be fine with little to no minutes.

Blatche is a half step from being out of the league. He can play with Nash, Kobe and Gasol and look good when doing so. Practice against Dwight, Gasol, and Hill and get better everyday. He will get limited mins when the other four are healthy. But we all know that Gasol, Jamison, and even Hill will miss some games. There will be 20-25 games where the 5th big gets heavy (20 or more) mins because 1 or 2 of the others is dinged, tired, or suspended.

He can be sold on being the stretch 4 for dwight next year (after Jamison is gone) and in the future when Gasol is gone. He is cheaper than Martin because of vet min %

I'm obviously extremely happy with the off season moves and our current team but entertain the idea:

After this coming season, CP3 will be a free agent. How insane would that be if we win the title this coming season, and somehow get CP3 to join the Lakers the following year. Imagine CP3 starting and Nash coming off the bench running the 2nd unit to perfection. CP3 would up the defense for the starters and set up Kobe,Pau, and Howard just as well as Nash. And then Nash would be able to set up Jaminson, Meeks, Ebanks, and Hill off the bench and prob be the 6MOY. It would be like our starting lineup is the Lakers and our bench unit is the Suns LOL.

Obviously not gunna happen, but it is crazy to think that it could happen...and winning the title this year could help CP3 decide. idk if Nash would come off the bench, and i obv wouldn't do that to him; im just thinking about the possibility of this happening bc it is actually possible if you think about our team, GM, and CP3 free agency. Our bench with Nash running it would be pretty tough to beat, let alone our starting lineup with the best PG in the league (no offense to the genius HOF that is Nash). CP3 will prob sign with the Clippers to a large contract but we have to think we could lose Dwight to the Clippers next year if CP3 recruits him and Dwight isn't happy with Kobe and the Lakers. I'm not thinking about who has how many years left on their contract, $, etc. but hypothetically, we keep the same roster but add CP3 to it, it could be even more impressive than now:

CP3/Nash
Kobe/Meeks
MWP/Ebanks
Pau/Jaminson
Howard/Hill

And if you're thinking about $...think about this. That would be a pretty expensive team but the Lakers will make prob around $150-$170 million this year if not more now that we have such an impressive starting lineup...and the way the new CBA has revenue sharing we might as well spend the money the Lakers make on ourselves as were gunna have to share it with the league anyways....selfish but its business.

IDK about CBA rules etc. so its obviously just a pipe dream, but it is a pretty cool thing to think about. CP3 and Howard carrying the Lakers once Kobe is gone.

Over guys like Ebanks or Morris etc. I would have really loved us to give Terrence Williams a shot.

Incredible athlete with solid shooting and passing ability but a head case. I really still think the guy deserves a chance in a professional environment. he has incredible talent and I'm wondering why nobody is giving him a chance. The Lakers could really use an athlete from the bench. We have zero real athletes on the bench.

KB24 wrote:Over guys like Ebanks or Morris etc. I would have really loved us to give Terrence Williams a shot.

Incredible athlete with solid shooting and passing ability but a head case. I really still think the guy deserves a chance in a professional environment. he has incredible talent and I'm wondering why nobody is giving him a chance. The Lakers could really use an athlete from the bench. We have zero real athletes on the bench.

I'm right there with you, I think he would a good addition on a team full of vets. with their heads on straight.

Personally, seeing as how the FO has pushed all their chips in the middle so to speak on the next 2-3 years, I would cut ties with all projects/rooks/young players on our team and go after players that can contribute now.

Glock/DJO/Sacre/Morris/Ebanks/Clark.......

Give me some vets. for the minimum right now over everyone above and worry about rebuilding when the time comes.

Doc Brown wrote:

KB24 wrote:Over guys like Ebanks or Morris etc. I would have really loved us to give Terrence Williams a shot.

Incredible athlete with solid shooting and passing ability but a head case. I really still think the guy deserves a chance in a professional environment. he has incredible talent and I'm wondering why nobody is giving him a chance. The Lakers could really use an athlete from the bench. We have zero real athletes on the bench.

I'm right there with you, I think he would a good addition on a team full of vets. with their heads on straight.

Personally, seeing as how the FO has pushed all their chips in the middle so to speak on the next 2-3 years, I would cut ties with all projects/rooks/young players on our team and go after players that can contribute now.

Glock/DJO/Sacre/Morris/Ebanks/Clark.......

Give me some vets. for the minimum right now over everyone above and worry about rebuilding when the time comes.

I think youth has a place on our team. I'm totally fine with having some young guys like Devin on our team. He'll provide that young fire and that reckless kind of attitude which is good for a team. We're still fairly old and teams like Miami and OKC are going to try to run on us every play. It'll be important to have some younger guys that want to run too.

That being said, I like Williams on this squad instead of Ebanks.

I think the FO is higher on Ron than we are.. They'll be fine with Ebanks as a backup.. While I agree, Terrance Williams would be a nice addition, the guys that are left now are all gambles.. The FA crop has already dried up.. With all of the main pieces in place, we should be able to get a couple of better FA's to ring chase next season..

XXIV wrote:

The Rock wrote:I think we'll go with 14 players, I wonder whos gonna get cut between DJO, Glock and Morris

1) Kobe
2) Howard
3) Nash
4) Gasol
5) MWP
6) Jamison
7) Meeks
8) Hill
9) Blake
10) Duhon
11) Sacre (with D-Howards issues we could use a big on this team)
12) Clark
13) Ebanks

14th spot will be between Morris, Glock and DJO

I'm pretty sure Morris is already on a guaranteed contract for this upcoming season.

he earns like 400k lol Im sure they can take the hit and just cut him to open up a roster spot

^ He earns 962,195 according to http://www.storytellerscontracts.com/

Not chump change really. I expect him to be on the team unfortunately. Here's what I expect:

Nash/Blake/Duhon/Morris
Bryant/Meeks
Artest/Ebanks
Gasol/Jamison/Clark
Howard/Hill/Sacre

If not Sacre, then a veteran, but Sacre will be far cheaper than any veteran we can find. I like Darius-Odom, but with Morris on a QO, Duhon coming with Dwight, and Meeks signing for a year I doubt he stays. I think the Lakers prefer to sign a big man instead and use Jamison as SF depth if need be. I'd like Odom to be signed over Goudelock if the Lakers go in that direction.

The Rock wrote:

XXIV wrote:

The Rock wrote:I think we'll go with 14 players, I wonder whos gonna get cut between DJO, Glock and Morris

1) Kobe
2) Howard
3) Nash
4) Gasol
5) MWP
6) Jamison
7) Meeks
8) Hill
9) Blake
10) Duhon
11) Sacre (with D-Howards issues we could use a big on this team)
12) Clark
13) Ebanks

14th spot will be between Morris, Glock and DJO

I'm pretty sure Morris is already on a guaranteed contract for this upcoming season.

he earns like 400k lol Im sure they can take the hit and just cut him to open up a roster spot

I highly doubt they'll cut him right after signing him. Sadly he's probably going to be on the team this season.

If we can keep Morris without cutting Glock Im all for it. Glock is the best 3 point shooter on this team after Nash, he can help us with spacing. We already have 3 PGs we dont need Morris, Im sure he'll develop into a sound player someday but not sure if it will be this year or next with Blake and Duhon ahead of him in the depth chart

Goudelock is a huge defensive liability. A report came out not too long ago using advanced stats that claimed for every point he scores he gives up 3 or 4. That's not going to cut it.

He's a great shooter, but unless he's made HUGE strides as a defender and a passer, I don't think we'll see him this season.

It's interesting that Ebanks hasn't signed his offer sheet yet. I wonder what is cooking there?

Doc Brown wrote:It's interesting that Ebanks hasn't signed his offer sheet yet. I wonder what is cooking there?

Perhaps the Lakers are close to signing a backup SF?

Still can't believe we got Dwight & Nash, best offseason for the Lakers so far

We are at 100 million in salary. Big ups to the FO for spending in this last run for Kobe.

^^^^ yep and around 190 millions in 2013-2014 with the new tax rates ... that's around 320 millions just for salaries for the next 2 seasons ... they go all out for the remaining of Kobe career

Kobe should have accepted a paycut when he extended. He really should have, for the sake of competitiveness of this team

You cannot expect Buss to do revenue sharing and spend 200 mio. on salaries. Its a family company, they aren't billionaires. After that season we will get a 50 mio. salary reduction (Kobe and Gasol coming off the books and Blake too).