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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby karacha on Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:12 pm

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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Ariza3 on Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:38 pm

at least only 8 are the dreaded afternoon sunday games. the rest are at like 6:30 so its not too bad.

okc and miami are the only afternoon sunday games (12:30pm) we have to worry about. the rest of the early sunday games are subpar teams now so thats good.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Doc Brown on Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:41 am

If we end up with either Barbosa or Pietrus, I'll just sit back and laugh. I know it's unlikely, but we have Mitch and Mitch does boss type things from time to time.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Center Court on Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:48 am

you could make a pretty quality bench with who still available...

IMO all guys that contribute on some impactful level

Barbosa, Pietrus, and Martin are all very good role players. If it were my call, I'd sign Pietrus-- shooter, defender, energy.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:32 am

*sigh* I miss Derek. I wish he was willing to swallow his pride just to be here. I know the Lakers wouldn't sign him simply because we already have two guys that can produce similar numbers to him and they're under contract for 2 years (Blake and Duhon). But it'd be nice to see him back here for the 6th run.

From that small list, give me Martin and Barbosa. I'll buy out Blake and Duhon if I have to and I'll trade away Clark too.

Nash/Barbosa/Morris
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Josh Howard Receiving Interest From Knicks and Bulls

Postby Kobe8Fan on Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:36 am

Josh Howard Receiving Interest From Knicks and Bulls

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Free agent F Josh Howard, a Winston Salem native, has been working out with Charlotte this week, sources tell Y! CHI, NY amongst interested.


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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Kobe8Fan on Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:49 pm

Cavs' Maybe Looking To Trade Daniel Gibson

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The Cavs deny that they are “shopping” Daniel Gibson, but more than a few team sources say their club has had some level of contact regarding Gibson throughout the summer. With draft pick Dion Waiters expected to join super sophomore Kyrie Irving in the Cavs backcourt there may not be much of a role for Gibson and several teams have tried to engage Cleveland on a deal. As things settle in and the rookies in Cleveland find their way Gibson and his ending contract are likely on the move.

Gibson is owed $4.7 million this season which is a fairly easy number cap wise and if the Cavs can extract a draft pick or a roster part they want, you can expect Gibson will be moved.


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Magic Players On The Trading Block

Postby Kobe8Fan on Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:51 pm

Magic Players On The Trading Block

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Even though Dwight Howard, Ryan Anderson, Jason Richardson, Earl Clark and Chris Duhon have been shipped out, the Magic are hardly finished in their attempts to make trades.
They are open for business to any team that is interested in the likes of holdovers Hedo Turkoglu, Jameer Nelson, J.J. Redick, Big Baby Davis and Quentin Richardson. (And those players also might be looking to join a team that’s not competing for lottery prizes the next few seasons.)

Vets Al Harrington and Josh McRoberts, who both arrived in the Dwight deal, also will be there for the asking.

What do the Magic want in return to jettison any of those deals? Ideally, expiring contracts and/or draft picks.

Odds of moving the big multi-year contracts of Turk ($11.8 and roughly $6 million), Nelson (3 years, about $20 million) and Davis (3 years, $19.4 million) are slim, of course.

Redick has an expiring deal at $6.7 million so he’ll be beneficial whether he’s dealt or not. McRoberts also has an expiring contract at $3.1 million.

Richardson has two years left at $2.6 million and $2.8 million.

Even with two guaranteed seasons at $6.2 million and $6.6 million, Harrington has enough firepower left to interest a team looking for a scorer or trying to fill a void created by an injury.

The Magic likely will be busy at the trade deadline.

They also have a $17.8 million trade exception for the next year from the Howard deal — believed to be the largest in league history — to utilize. For taking on a player from a team that’s, say, trying to avoid the luxury tax, the Magic hope to acquire more draft picks in that transaction.


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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby khmrP on Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:57 pm

Doc Brown wrote:If we end up with either Barbosa or Pietrus, I'll just sit back and laugh. I know it's unlikely, but we have Mitch and Mitch does boss type things from time to time.


wouldn't surprise me, most teams out there have spend their money, I think all the top contenders have spend what they have available and these 2 are rather old for teams who aren't contenders.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:07 pm

Center Court wrote:you could make a pretty quality bench with who still available...

IMO all guys that contribute on some impactful level

Barbosa, Pietrus, and Martin are all very good role players. If it were my call, I'd sign Pietrus-- shooter, defender, energy.


I've always like Pietrus' game..... very few bench role players have two way games...... he does and he'd fill a need at back-up SF...

What about Darko?.... he's been a career underachiever but Howard will be limited early on and Pau's not that young anymore. A injury to either of those guys that keeps one of them out a month or two and we're playing Sacre and Hill in the rotation....

SF and Back-up Center are still needs.....
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby dj vitus on Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:19 pm

Barbosa and we're set. But if none of them have expressed interest since we got both Nash and Howard, I'm thinking chances are a bit slim.

I mean, why take the $1.5 (half of the mini MLE) to play limited minutes when you can double that or more overseas and be treated like royalty? Hard to pass up...
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Ariza3 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:42 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent Jason Kapono has been working out with the San Antonio Spurs this week, league sources tell Y! Sports. Twitter


if he gets picked up by the Spurs i bet he'll bomb 3's for them unlike what he did for us...
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakersin4 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:26 pm

Ariza3 wrote:
Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent Jason Kapono has been working out with the San Antonio Spurs this week, league sources tell Y! Sports. Twitter


if he gets picked up by the Spurs i bet he'll bomb 3's for them unlike what he did for us...

Wouldn't be shocking at all.. The Spurs system gets guys open shots like no other offense.. Great coach & strong veteran leadership.. Role players thrive on teams like that.

Look at Roger Mason Jr. He was a lights out 3 point shooter & great role player in SA.. Couldn't sniff the floor in Washington.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby last stand on Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:46 pm

lakersin4 wrote:
Ariza3 wrote:
Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent Jason Kapono has been working out with the San Antonio Spurs this week, league sources tell Y! Sports. Twitter


if he gets picked up by the Spurs i bet he'll bomb 3's for them unlike what he did for us...

Wouldn't be shocking at all.. The Spurs system gets guys open shots like no other offense.. Great coach & strong veteran leadership.. Role players thrive on teams like that.

Look at Roger Mason Jr. He was a lights out 3 point shooter & great role player in SA.. Couldn't sniff the floor in Washington.


He had the best shooting season of his career in washington and actually his best season if you consider points per minutes
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakersin4 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:03 pm

last stand wrote:
lakersin4 wrote:
Ariza3 wrote:
Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent Jason Kapono has been working out with the San Antonio Spurs this week, league sources tell Y! Sports. Twitter


if he gets picked up by the Spurs i bet he'll bomb 3's for them unlike what he did for us...

Wouldn't be shocking at all.. The Spurs system gets guys open shots like no other offense.. Great coach & strong veteran leadership.. Role players thrive on teams like that.

Look at Roger Mason Jr. He was a lights out 3 point shooter & great role player in SA.. Couldn't sniff the floor in Washington.


He had the best shooting season of his career in washington and actually his best season if you consider points per minutes

Still.. He only managed to get 13.4 MPG on a terrible Wizards team. & was actually waived back in April. He was one of the best role players in the league in SA.. Great systems make great role players is the point I'm trying to make.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:05 pm

Still looking for a young, hardnosed PG to backup Steve.

That would be most ideal for us. We can live with a SF rotation of Metta, Jamison, Ebanks.

We can't live with a PG bench of Blake, Duhon, Morris. :hurl:
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby lakersin4 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:15 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:Still looking for a young, hardnosed PG to backup Steve.

That would be most ideal for us. We can live with a SF rotation of Metta, Jamison, Ebanks.

We can't live with a PG bench of Blake, Duhon, Morris. :hurl:

There's no one significant out there at PG.. It's going to have to come by trade. We don't really have any assets that we can give up.. Maybe Mitch will get some use out of a TPE. Duhon's contract will have some value once he's eligible to be traded again. He has a very friendly buyout. I wish we could upgrade PG by unloading Blake, but it's just not realistic.. Without a 1st to package, Blake will play out his contract as a Laker.

I'm not nearly as concerned with backup SF. I trust Ron's health more than Nash's. We have Ebanks ready to break out. & let's not forget about Kobe.. Every time we've had a capable backup SG in the past, Kobe has played some minutes at SF. If Meeks provides spacing like he's capable of doing, don't be surprised if he sees extended minutes with Kobe at the 3.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Ariza3 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:57 pm

i think Blake will be a good backup to Nash. Last season his offense was terrible, and was forced to play SG which is NOT him.

with guys like meeks jaminson and hopefully an improved ebanks, blake should be able to do what he should instead of being required to be an offensive threat and scorer as a SG which hes not. i think he'll be fine with the 2nd unit running it. now we have offensive options coming off the bench and jordan hill on defense and boarding so blake will just be required to just pass to the open guy and to SHOOT the open 3 rather than being an offensive threat. he cant be passive when it comes to open 3's...let it fly bc he's actually a decent 3 point shooter when he actually does.

other than the 06-07 season where he jumped between 2 teams, and last season with mike brown; steve blake has shot over 37% from 3 every season of his career.

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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby therealdeal on Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:04 pm

Ariza3 wrote:i think Blake will be a good backup to Nash. Last season his offense was terrible, and was forced to play SG which is NOT him.

with guys like meeks jaminson and hopefully an improved ebanks, blake should be able to do what he should instead of being required to be an offensive threat and scorer as a SG which hes not. i think he'll be fine with the 2nd unit running it. now we have offensive options coming off the bench and jordan hill on defense and boarding so blake will just be required to just pass to the open guy and to SHOOT the open 3 rather than being an offensive threat. he cant be passive when it comes to open 3's...let it fly bc he's actually a decent 3 point shooter when he actually does.

other than the 06-07 season where he jumped between 2 teams, and last season with mike brown; steve blake has shot over 37% from 3 every season of his career.

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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby LooN3y on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:28 pm

Ariza3 wrote:i think Blake will be a good backup to Nash. Last season his offense was terrible, and was forced to play SG which is NOT him.

with guys like meeks jaminson and hopefully an improved ebanks, blake should be able to do what he should instead of being required to be an offensive threat and scorer as a SG which hes not. i think he'll be fine with the 2nd unit running it. now we have offensive options coming off the bench and jordan hill on defense and boarding so blake will just be required to just pass to the open guy and to SHOOT the open 3 rather than being an offensive threat. he cant be passive when it comes to open 3's...let it fly bc he's actually a decent 3 point shooter when he actually does.

other than the 06-07 season where he jumped between 2 teams, and last season with mike brown; steve blake has shot over 37% from 3 every season of his career.

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farmar > blake as far as production goes. we complained about farmar taking too many 3's and scoring too much, but how many times has blake passed up an open 3? :bang:
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Report: Andray Blatche Still Considering Signing With Heat

Postby Kobe8Fan on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:37 pm

Report: Andray Blatche Still Considering Signing With Heat

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Despite reports of an agreement in principle with the Brooklyn Nets, two sources say that Andray Blatche is still considering an offer from the Miami Heat.

Blatche worked out for Avery Johnson in Houston last weekend.

“Nothing is finalized," said one person close to Blatche.


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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Center Court on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:46 pm

Miami has really stepped up their bench game this year... Blatche would be icing on the cake

Blatche
Haslem/Lewis
Miller
Allen
Cole

pretty good and fits very well around the big 3.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby Ariza3 on Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:30 pm

blake will be able to walk into 4 assists a game and just have to shoot 3's. thats a job i think he can do well if thats all he has to do. his real effort will be trying to play the scrappy annoying defense he can against some backup pg's.

farmar was good for us but we have blake...mike brown would start blake if we didnt have nash so were stuck with him. he can shoot the 3 pretty well if hes confident in it and i think a full season and full training camp with mike brown and a solidified role as the BACKUP PG and nothing more i think will do wonders.
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Re: Offseason Overhaul Discussion (who to keep / who to get?)

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:08 pm

Yeah, Blake does really well matching up against 2nd team guys, and occasional pestering of 1st team guys.
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