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Re: Roster Improvement: So how's your 40 dash? You're hired!

Postby Balance&Options24 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:58 pm

Isn't Greg Oden planning to play next season not this.
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Re: Roster Improvement: So how's your 40 dash? You're hired!

Postby Battle Tested20 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:15 pm

Balance&Options24 wrote:Isn't Greg Oden planning to play next season not this.

that's what I thought I read too. He said that he would be willing to sign with a team this year, but would only rehab this his year and play next.
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Re: Roster Improvement: So how's your 40 dash? You're hired!

Postby therealdeal on Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:27 pm

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therealdeal wrote:The Bucks would trade Ellis?


based on recent reports, no one is untouchable, not even Jennings.

Well... if they were willing to part with one of them I suppose I'd go after Ellis.

Ellis/Dalembert for Gasol.

But with Gasol potentially missing time, I don't see them doing that anymore. Not to mention, Gasol has been great since his movement to the bench.
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Re: Roster Improvement: So how's your 40 dash? You're hired!

Postby khmrP on Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:30 pm

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khmrP wrote:
therealdeal wrote:The Bucks would trade Ellis?


based on recent reports, no one is untouchable, not even Jennings.

Well... if they were willing to part with one of them I suppose I'd go after Ellis.

Ellis/Dalembert for Gasol.

But with Gasol potentially missing time, I don't see them doing that anymore. Not to mention, Gasol has been great since his movement to the bench.


yes its no longer an option now but its a solid package if it were available, borderline great if Dunleavy was part of it. Pau has had a better stretch but we know he can go back to that bad Pau anytime and his attitude/comments dont see all to great for his future here anyways and now he's plague with injuries one after another.
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Re: Roster Improvement: So how's your 40 dash? You're hired!

Postby therealdeal on Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:37 pm

It might be something revisited in the off-season. We're probably going to try to unload Pau for a bunch of cheaper options though so I'm not sure if Ellis would fit that equation.

We're going to have to re-sign Clark and he's demanding more and more money each day. Add onto the luxury tax and I don't see us bringing back 19 million in contracts. Maybe 10 million total in salaries.
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Re: Roster Improvement: So how's your 40 dash? You're hired!

Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:14 pm

mmm, me likes Pau/Blake for Ellis/Dalembert/Udrih

Howard/Dalembert
Clark/Jamison
Metta/Meeks/Ebanks
Kobe/Ellis
Nash/Udrih/Duhon

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Re: Roster Improvement: So how's your 40 dash? You're hired!

Postby karacha on Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:24 pm

Dalembert would be a nice backup. He's OK with 15 mpg, will give you 7/6 or something similar consistently, will block shots and hit FTs.
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby Doc Brown on Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:10 pm

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"Hearing they are VERY active right now. Marc Stein reported today that Samuel Dalembert is one guy that they are actively talking about (and what an incredible game he had last night trying to show his value). But he's not the only one -- Monta Ellis, Ersan Ilyasova, Beno Udrih are all available. Even Brandon Jennings at the right price."
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby khmrP on Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:13 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
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A number of Milwaukee's big names are available
"Hearing they are VERY active right now. Marc Stein reported today that Samuel Dalembert is one guy that they are actively talking about (and what an incredible game he had last night trying to show his value). But he's not the only one -- Monta Ellis, Ersan Ilyasova, Beno Udrih are all available. Even Brandon Jennings at the right price."


Milw would've been a great trading partner if not for Pau's injury.
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby Chillbongo on Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:30 pm

Weezy wrote:I'd take Dalambert for sure if they'd trade him for our junk. :mhihi:

Do we have expiring junk?

What are Duhon/Ebanks contracts like? I swear we gave someone a 1 year deal out of either Morris or Duhon...
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby XXIV on Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:30 pm

Management has to be looking at various scenarios which can bring us a big, whether it's via free agency or trade we'll find out soon.
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby Punk-101 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:31 pm

What is Milw's motive for trading those guys, salary dump or talent improvement?

The only long and relatively expensive contracts are Aliensova at 7.9x5yrs and Gooden at 6.6x3yrs. Everyone else of note is on 1 or 2 year deals.
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby khmrP on Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:41 pm

Chillbongo wrote:
Weezy wrote:I'd take Dalambert for sure if they'd trade him for our junk. :mhihi:

Do we have expiring junk?

What are Duhon/Ebanks contracts like? I swear we gave someone a 1 year deal out of either Morris or Duhon...


Dalembert is also expiring, our junks wouldn't get it done anyways.

Anybody know of any big's that went to China?
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby Alcindor on Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:59 pm

Dalembert is not obtainable for us

K-Mart is a no-brainer at the point, do it Mitch. Use the IPE.
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby TaniBoyz on Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:06 pm

any D-League big man prospects?
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby XXIV on Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:18 pm

TaniBoyz wrote:any D-League big man prospects?


Might as well use Sacre.
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby purp n gold on Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:26 pm

Funny. During the preseason I said "I'd rather develop Clark" than sign Martin. I didn't think Clark would blossom like he did, and it turns out we still probably need Martin.

I hate to go to this cliche, but he'll toughen up our frontline. We didn't know this in the offseason but, teams obviously aren't afraid of an ailing Dwight. And Pau, well, is Pau. I would not be opposed to bringing in Kenyon.
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Re: Roster Improvement: So how's your 40 dash? You're hired!

Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:29 pm

tigerjeterkobe wrote:Ugh, that is the list???

Wasn't there a guy on our d-league team that could defend?

Oden - isn't he still out until the summer? I don't think he is ready now. And like with B Roy, we know that won't last.

Martin has knee issues too, right!

Murphy may be best option, though Clark and sacre are better at protecting the rim.

If we get Dwight! We could really tread for a bit - esp with jamison, Clark and Nash all playing better.

Think we can trade Metta for anything? Thoughts?


:bang: Like he is just so expendable with our already soft defense from others that see a lot of playing time. Trade this guy. No trade that guy. This guy....ship him out. Who's coming back? How would I know....just want to trade someone. Ship Pau out. Who's coming back? Don't know, just want him gone. Even now before his full trade value next year. :bang:
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby Ariza3 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:32 pm

of course pau is gunna be out. if only jordan hill didnt get injured. i wouldnt even be worried if pau went out and jordan hill was still good.

we seriously are gunna have to look into kenyon bc the heat picked up birdman who would have done fine for us just to play D and rebound. thats all we need...a jordan hill type play at the PF/C and kenyon can do that i think
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby Pig Miller on Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:26 pm

brendan haywood?
chuck hayes?
emeka?

can't believe i just suggested haywood. this is a sad situation.
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby XXIV on Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:33 pm

Ariza3 wrote:of course pau is gunna be out. if only jordan hill didnt get injured. i wouldnt even be worried if pau went out and jordan hill was still good.

we seriously are gunna have to look into kenyon bc the heat picked up birdman who would have done fine for us just to play D and rebound. thats all we need...a jordan hill type play at the PF/C and kenyon can do that i think


There's no question he can bring that, however I think the Lakers might be hesitant with him possibly being a cancer to the team. At this point I think we're way too thin up front to even worry about it, and who knows he could add some very nice depth once Pau returns.
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby lotus on Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:41 pm

Pig Miller wrote:brendan haywood?
chuck hayes?
emeka?

can't believe i just suggested haywood. this is a sad situation.

Sad indeed. Please cross that off your bucket list.
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby Punk-101 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:04 pm

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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby LakerFanIam on Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:06 pm

Do not want KmArt......
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Re: Roster Improvement: 3 Bigs injured, do we shop at KMart?

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:38 pm

Me too, but I don't think we have any choice right now, fugazy will probably inflame Ron in little scuffles with his fake thuggery... I pray it works out
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