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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakerfan2 on Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:42 am

If there was ONE player we really needed right now, it's Jordan Hill off the bench.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby tigerjeterkobe on Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:58 pm

I have been saying it sinc the Olympics - I hope the Lakers sign Yi when he is done playing in China. He has really improved his game - toughness and playmaking. He could be perfect for 10 mins a game or so to spell Clark and space the floor for dwight. He can put the ball on the floor and make a few plays for Dwight or meeks too. A poor man's gasol. Kove did a commercial with him. Maybe he put the word out. And if Yi were productive with us it will piss of Cuban.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakerfan2 on Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:21 pm

China isn't even close to the level of the Spanish or even some of the European leagues.

Sorry, but Yi belongs in the Chinese league, he's just too timid in the NBA.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Kobe8Fan on Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:54 pm

tigerjeterkobe wrote:I have been saying it sinc the Olympics - I hope the Lakers sign Yi when he is done playing in China. He has really improved his game - toughness and playmaking. He could be perfect for 10 mins a game or so to spell Clark and space the floor for dwight. He can put the ball on the floor and make a few plays for Dwight or meeks too. A poor man's gasol. Kove did a commercial with him. Maybe he put the word out. And if Yi were productive with us it will piss of Cuban.

Yi played his [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] off in the Olympics. Did just about everything for China. Scoring, passing, defense. You name it. But for some reason, his play doesn't transfer to the NBA level.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby tigerjeterkobe on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:06 am

That's my point though -- I think he has gotten a ton better. More confident. More aggressive. Doesn't just stand at the 3 point line. Gets a little more physical on defense and has energy with great passing and cuts to the basket.

Him at the 4 with Dwight at the 5 and Kobe at the 3 (with Meeks at the 2) would be great. He provides the spacing that Jamison does, the ability to cut (off pick and roll or weakside) that Clark does, and the passing and mid-range that Gasol does. He is also very tall and athletic -- he can still play above the rim and alter shots (he is getting much much better at help defense) and is fast enough (unlike Gasol) to provide help defense and still recover (including showing and recovering with the pick and roll).

Again, I am only talking about 10-12 minutes per game, and mostly when Dwight runs with the second unit.

Did you guys watch him this summer playing with China? See him play this year for his team? He just won the all-star game MVP last week too -- with 34 points. Granted, the competition is terrible (Marbury had like 25 points in that game, and Tracy McGrady dissed all the Chinese fans by not playing in the game, claiming that he had to visit his sick grandma, but then sit courtside for the Rocks game). With Gasol and Hill out, and now Clark hitting a sort of freshman wall, Yi would be a great fit for us and would thrive opposite Dwight and Kobe and working with Nash in MDA's system. Look what Nash did with much less talented 4s in Phx.

I may be crazy (since he sucked in Was and with Dallas and was softer than Gasol and Webber on their worst days). But from what I have seen in recent months, he has grown a pair and could find his way back in the NBA and be a very poor man's Dirk or a less poos man's LO (or at least a better Okur or Troy Murphy in their primes), esp playing here with Dwight, Hill, and Clark going fwd. I hope Kobe greased the skids with Yi.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakerfan2 on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:16 am

nah, Yi had several chances in different systems. if he were to grow somewhere, it would've been here.

you're seeing a low nba talent in a bad chinese league.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby tigerjeterkobe on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:26 am

Maybe. But again, I am only talking about a bench player in limited minutes. Not a star.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakerfan2 on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:45 am

Even then, not to discount Yi as I thought he would be much better when he first joined, but his game doesn't translate to the NBA very well.

His only strength is his length. He can shoot over smaller 4's, and block some shots, but he's not the most mobile player. He's an average rebounder, but can really fold against physical players.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:47 am

When I watched him in the NBA, the guy was just slow. His reaction time wasn't there, his movements were too delayed.

He just can't hang with NBA level athletes.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Punk-101 on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:50 am

Man, Chandler Parsens is shaping out to be the next Kevin Love. I'd love (pardon the pun) to somehow get him from Houston in a Gasol multi team deal. They'd be fools to let him go, obviously.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:57 am

Punk-101 wrote:Man, Chandler Parsens is shaping out to be the next Kevin Love. I'd love (pardon the pun) to somehow get him from Houston in a Gasol multi team deal. They'd be fools to let him go, obviously.

They had a similar guy in Budinger who they let go so that they could keep Parsons.

I remember thinking "I LOVE Budinger's game! He shoots, he defends, he's athletic, he does it all!" And then I watched Parsons and realized he does it all too, but a little bit better.

If they don't keep Parsons around I'll be shocked.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby GoldenKnight on Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:19 pm

^^^ he's a GREAT shooter, anyone else watch the Mavs game where he scored I think it was 9 or 10 FGs in a row? Definitely gonna shape up to be a great NBA player.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:55 pm

I sure wish there was a way we could pry Luol Deng from the Bulls.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby JSM on Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:48 pm

Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel wrote:Former Magic PF Ryan Anderson misses Dwight Howard, too, although he's still thriving without him. There's just a greater degree of difficulty.

Anderson came into Monday's night's game against his former club averaging 16.8 points per game. His numbers mirror last season in Orlando: 16.1 ppg.

Last season's most improved player in the NBA has continued lighting it up from the outside, shooting 39.4 percent from 3-point land.

"My shots are a lot more difficult now. I've had to adjust," Anderson said, sitting by his locker room before tip-off.

Anderson is getting his shots off screens, double-teams and in transition, largely thanks to Hornets point guard Greivis Vasquez.

Anderson played off Howard in Orlando, saying he'd get shots in Orlando off "Dwight double-teams and Dwight kick-outs.

"My situation was made easy because of Dwight … Greivis has done a good job. A lot of my open shots come from him."

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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:18 pm

For sure I'd bring him in. Gasol to Minny, PIeces to New Orleans, Anderson/Vasquez to LA.

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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Ariza3 on Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:01 am

if the lakers can find a way to trade for a late first round pick in the draft, they should get a SF. there wont be much but looking they should go for someone like Allen Crabbe from CAL.

i've watched him play and hes got some talent. hes still being shaped for the nba but i think after a rookie year he could be ready as a solid backup SF. hes young and a little undersized as a SF so maybe a combo SG/SF which i think could be good for us. idk what lakers future lies for metta or what we do in the offseason but he could be a good pick bc i doubt we keep ebanks. hes from LA and is pretty strong. could be possible if thats what the lakers are looking for moving forward without metta and ebanks and leaning towars clark and hill.
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Hawks Waive Newly-Acquired Jeremy Tyler

Postby Kobe8Fan on Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:07 am

Hawks Waive Newly-Acquired Jeremy Tyler

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ATLANTA -- The Atlanta Hawks have waived forward/center Jeremy Tyler, Hawks President of Basketball Operations/General Manager Danny Ferry announced Wednesday.

Acquired from the Golden State Warriors on Feb. 21, Tyler appeared in one game for the Hawks (March 4 at Denver), grabbing three rebounds in five minutes of action.


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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:52 am

Hm. I wondered what happened to this kid. I guess they replaced him with Festus. I thought he was alright. Good energy and a hard worker, but not very talented at all and not a whole lot of brain power on the court.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby JSM on Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:39 pm

The guys who have returned from China...
Alex Kennedy of HoopsWorld wrote:The Chinese Basketball Association has become a fallback option for many professional basketball players who want to continue their career. The CBA has developed into a very competitive league and many former NBA players have taken their talents to East Asia to star on one of its 17 teams.
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This season, Tracy McGrady, Gilbert Arenas and Eddy Curry were among the players that signed with a CBA team. Now, with the CBA regular season concluded, these players are looking to return to the NBA and sign contracts for the remainder of the season. These players are unrestricted free agents and have until April 17, the final day of the NBA regular season, to sign with a team and be playoff eligible.

Several players have already returned from China and signed with an NBA team. The Boston Celtics signed Terrence Williams (Guangdong Southern Tigers), Shavlik Randolph (Foshan Long Lions) and D.J. White (Shanghai Sharks) to 10-day contracts. Williams was eventually signed to a multi-year deal.

McGrady is the biggest name returning from China, where he averaged 25 points, 7.2 rebounds and 5.1 assists in 29 games. McGrady was treated like a rock star in the CBA. He quickly became a fan favorite and his team, the Qingdao Eagles, sold out every away arena. Even though McGrady had individual success, Qingdao finished with the worst record in the CBA at 8-24. Now, McGrady is back in the United States and hoping to join an NBA team for the remainder of the season. He recently attended a Houston Rockets game and sat courtside with team officials, but Houston has a full roster after signing Aaron Brooks. McGrady’s last stint in the NBA was with the Atlanta Hawks, where he averaged 5.3 points, 3.0 rebounds and 2.1 assists in 52 games off of Atlanta’s bench. The 33-year-old may have to sign a 10-day contract and prove his value to a team, which is something he hasn’t been willing to do in the past.

Arenas’ stint in China didn’t go so well. While he was successful when he took the court for the Shanghai Sharks – averaging 20.7 points, 7.3 rebounds and 3.0 assists – he only appeared in 14 games. The 30-year-old wasn’t even the most productive player on his team; that designation goes to D.J. White, which is why he landed a contract with the Celtics as soon as he returned to the United States. The 30-year-old Arenas has been a shell of himself in recent seasons. During his stint with the Memphis Grizzlies during the 2011-12 season, Arenas averaged just 4.2 points, 1.1 assists and 1.1 rebounds in 17 games off of Memphis’ bench. Arenas spent last offseason working out in Los Angeles and vowing to make an NBA comeback, but he didn’t receive any interest from NBA teams prior to the start of the season. Now, he’s hoping that a team with a depleted backcourt will take a shot on him, just as Memphis did last March.

Curry may be the most intriguing player returning to the United States. While in China, Curry averaged 23 points and 10.1 boards in 29.6 minutes for Zhejiang Chouzhou Bank. The 30-year-old Curry led the team to the postseason. Now, Curry is back in the United States and has already received inquiries from a number of NBA teams. Prior to signing in China, Curry had successful stints with the San Antonio Spurs and Dallas Mavericks this season. The odds of Curry landing on an NBA roster are higher than McGrady or Arenas, mainly because teams are already showing interest and he had offers earlier in the season unlike the two veteran guards. Teams are always looking to add a big man to their roster and bolster their frontcourt for the postseason, so don’t be surprised if Curry gets a contract before April 17.

Other former NBA players who can return to the United State are Al Thornton (27.4 points and 9.5 rebounds for the Zhejiang Guangsha Lions), Quincy Douby (31.6 points, 4.4 assists and 3.7 rebounds for the Zhejiang Chouzhou Bank), Gary Forbes (28.4 points, 7.8 rebounds and 4.6 assists for the Zhejiang Guangsha Lions), Lester Hudson (27.5 points, 6.6 rebounds and 4.5 assists for the Dongguan Leopards) and Sundiata Gaines (19.1 points, 6.8 rebounds and 4.7 assists for the Fujian Quanzhou Bank) among others. Players such as Stephon Marbury (Beijing Ducks), Yi Jianlian (Guangdong Tigers) and Pooh Jeter (Shandong Bulls) are still competing in the CBA playoffs.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby D.B. Cooper on Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:49 pm

We getting T-Mac :man4:
That should make some members happy, still feel bad that other members didn't get Marcus Banks :wink:
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Balance&Options24 on Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:52 pm

T-Mac is only 30?
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Weezy on Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:59 pm

I honestly don't think I'd mind a little McGrady if it meant less MWP.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Chillbongo on Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:02 pm

Balance&Options24 wrote:T-Mac is only 30?

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If he can still play D like Grant Hill, I'm down
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby The Rock on Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:37 pm

Tmac in a 8-10 min strectch off the bench would be nice
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Coach Chris on Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:42 pm

Chillbongo wrote:
Balance&Options24 wrote:T-Mac is only 30?

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If he can still play D like Grant Hill, I'm down


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