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Re: Source: Chris Paul Upset With Clippers' Organization

Postby charvin on Thu May 30, 2013 11:35 pm

That'd be the ultimate middle-finger lifted to Stern.

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By Chris Broussard | ESPN.com

Chris Paul is upset with the Los Angeles Clippers organization because he is being widely blamed for the firing of Vinny Del Negro as coach, according to a source close to the situation.

How much of an impact this will have on Paul's decision to re-sign with the Clippers as a free agent is not clear, but the source conceded that Paul's anger could lead him to look elsewhere.

"He's angry right now and his anger is directed toward the Clippers organization," the source said. "Chris is a man of principle and if he feels like you've gone against his principles, it will affect how he feels about you. He's very agitated that his name has been put out there as the reason for Vinny's firing. He had nothing to do with it."

It has been widely assumed that Paul will re-sign with the Clippers this summer. He often has spoken as if it's a foregone conclusion.

Plus, the Clippers can offer him a five-year, $108 million deal, $28 million more than any other club. But the source said he would not put it past Paul to turn down more money if he feels strongly that he's been slighted.

Del Negro was fired on May 21 after leading the Clippers to 56 wins, the most successful regular season in franchise history. That same day, Clippers owner Donald Sterling strongly implied in an interview with the Los Angeles Times that Paul and Blake Griffin were to blame for Del Negro's ouster.

Sterling told the Times that Del Negro "is a wonderful man" and that he's "sad about the whole thing."

Sterling was asked by the Times if Del Negro was fired "just to hang on to Chris Paul."

Sterling said: "I always want to be honest and not say anything that is not true. So I'd rather not say anything. But you know, the coach did a really good job. I think he did. And I liked working with him. There are just factors that make life very complicated and very challenging."

The Times then asked Sterling if it was "off base" to say the "players are now calling the shots."

"No, you're not off base," Sterling said. "This is a players' league, and, unfortunately, if you want to win, you have to make the players happy."

Sterling later told the Times, "If you have special players, and special players think that they know the best opportunity to win, you have to support them."

True or not, Del Negro believes Paul got him fired, according to a source close to the Clippers' ex-coach. The source added that Del Negro had no idea during the regular season or the playoffs that Paul wanted him out. During an appearance on "The Dan Patrick Show," Del Negro implied on Thursday that Paul was the reason he was let go.

But a source with knowledge of the situation said Paul refused to get involved in the Clippers' coaching situation and that he wanted nothing to do with the decision to retain or release Del Negro.

"Chris made it abundantly clear to the Clippers that he did not want to be involved in any decision about Vinny's future," the source said. "And Blake had nothing to do with it, either."

The source said the Clippers' front office was at odds with Del Negro for much of the season and that its differences with him were so strong that the executives did not need to consult Paul or any other players when deciding on Del Negro's future with the team.

One divide between Del Negro and the front office stemmed from the fact that the ex-coach made trade calls to other clubs during the season, according to a source. As the February trade deadline neared, the source said Del Negro discussed a potential deal with the Boston Celtics that would have sent DeAndre Jordan and Eric Bledsoe to Boston for Kevin Garnett. The rumor became major news around the league, even though the Clippers' front office was staunchly against the trade.

"The front office's feelings about getting rid of Vinny were strong enough that the players didn't need to get involved," a source said.

"The reason Vinny is no longer the Clippers' coach is because the front office didn't think he was the guy that could get them where they were trying to go. The players didn't have anything to do with it."

One source added that Paul is also steering clear of the Clippers' search for a new coach. The Clippers have a short list of current ESPN NBA analyst Jeff Van Gundy, Brian Shaw and Byron Scott, according to a source. They are also considering asking the Nuggets for permission to interview coach George Karl, a source confirmed. Alvin Gentry and Nate McMillan are also candidates, a source told ESPNLosAngeles.com.

Paul will be eligible for free agency on July 1. Several clubs will be willing to offer him a maximum-salaried contract. If he wants to leave the Clippers, Paul could also request a sign-and-trade to a team without salary-cap space.

If Paul considers leaving the Clippers, the Atlanta Hawks would be a potential landing spot. Paul always has been fond of the city of Atlanta, and the Hawks have the cap room to sign both Paul and Dwight Howard, a Lakers free agent, to lucrative contracts. Paul and Howard have spoken in the past about joining forces, but once Paul was traded to the Clippers in December 2011 and Howard was moved to the Lakers last summer, the duo figured that possibility was dead.

Howard, an Atlanta native, has been lukewarm at best about the idea of playing in his hometown. But the possibility of playing with Paul likely would get him to rethink his position.


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So CP3 is willing to accept less money because of the situation. Come back to the Lakers and stick it to the Clips, Chris.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Center Court on Thu May 30, 2013 11:40 pm

^^^ he's not taking $3MM

He's not leaving. They are going to upgrade their coach, improve the team, and Chris will be happy.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Tobias Funke on Fri May 31, 2013 12:45 am

CP3 probably didn't tell them straight up to fire VDL, but if he wanted Vinny there he would be.

I cant believe Im saying it, but I believe Sterling here. He's a despicable man, but he sounds like he was fine with Vinny. More importantly we all know he's very cheap, and while I dont know how much Vinny made, now that they supposedly have to go after a "big name" coach, you gotta think its gonna cost more than if they had kept Vinny.

Then again that's probably why Sterling sounds so sad to see him go. :man10: :man10:
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Fri May 31, 2013 9:13 am

3 years 9.3 million. Amnesty Artest. Trade Gasol for athletic pieces.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakerfan2 on Fri May 31, 2013 9:18 am

Umm, come for mini-MLE, then sign for max in 2014. :man8:
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby khmrP on Fri May 31, 2013 9:26 am

lakerfan2 wrote:Umm, come for mini-MLE, then sign for max in 2014. :man8:


dont work that way....Paul has to be with a team for certain amt of year before he can qualify for that bird exception so he can get max even with a team already over the cap.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby therealdeal on Fri May 31, 2013 9:28 am

khmrP wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:Umm, come for mini-MLE, then sign for max in 2014. :man8:


dont work that way....Paul has to be with a team for certain amt of year before he can qualify for that bird exception so he can get max even with a team already over the cap.

It's three years which is the exact amount needed for full Bird Rights.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby ThaEntrepreneur on Fri May 31, 2013 11:42 am

I think LA is gonna amnesty MWP, and end up trading Gasol for a lotto pick. It's a bummer we got a broken down Steve Nash; we're stuck with him. We need athletes!! This team is a mess.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Chillbongo on Fri May 31, 2013 12:42 pm

1)MWP amnesty for sure

2)Gasol situation extremely uncertain due to uncertainty on Dwight situation

3)What are the details of the stretch provision? Can we use this on Nash
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakersin4 on Fri May 31, 2013 1:02 pm

Wouldn't be the 1st time Sterling shifted the blame, but I'm sure the players had some input on this decision.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakerfan2 on Fri May 31, 2013 1:24 pm

khmrP wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:Umm, come for mini-MLE, then sign for max in 2014. :man8:


dont work that way....Paul has to be with a team for certain amt of year before he can qualify for that bird exception so he can get max even with a team already over the cap.


why would it matter? 2014 all of our players are off the books and we have the cap to sign him to the max, even if dwight signs as well.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakersin4 on Fri May 31, 2013 4:27 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:
khmrP wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:Umm, come for mini-MLE, then sign for max in 2014. :man8:


dont work that way....Paul has to be with a team for certain amt of year before he can qualify for that bird exception so he can get max even with a team already over the cap.


why would it matter? 2014 all of our players are off the books and we have the cap to sign him to the max, even if dwight signs as well.

That's true, he could play 1 year for the mini mle & then we could use our cap space on him. But realistically we won't ever see a CP3 level player take a paycut that drastic at this stage in their career.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby charvin on Fri May 31, 2013 6:37 pm

Be a man, do the right thing. Veteran's minimum :man10:
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby revgen on Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:57 pm

Darius Morris working regularly at the Lakers' training facility

By Eric Pincus

June 1, 2013, 1:40 p.m.

Lakers guard Darius Morris is a regular at the team's training facility.

In addition to improving his outside shot, Morris is working under the guidance of strength and conditioning coach Tim DiFrancesco.

While Morris is still learning to play at the right pace, offensively, he made a leap in his second season after sitting for most of his rookie year as the 41st pick in the 2011 NBA draft.

Through four postseason games against the San Antonio Spurs, Morris averaged 10.5 points on 45.7% shooting with 3.0 assists.

The 22-year-old guard will hit free agency for the second time in his short career in July. The team is expected to give him a qualifying offer of $1.2 million to make him a restricted free agent.

The Lakers have both Steve Nash and Steve Blake under contract at point guard but in addition to being being able to fill in as a low-minute third, Morris has the size to play multiple positions.

Coach Mike D'Antoni experimented with the 6-foot-4 Morris as the team's defensive stopper on the perimeter, even starting him against Carmelo Anthony of the New York Knicks.

While Morris wasn't necessarily ready for the role, his gym-rat personality suggests he'll continue to improve.

If the Lakers don't give him a qualifying offer, he would hit free agency unrestricted -- although the team could still look to re-sign him.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-darius-morris-lakers-workouts-20130601,0,2595017.story
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby lakerfan2 on Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:58 pm

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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby revgen on Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:04 pm

If Nash and Blake weren't older and prone to injury, I'd be okay with Morris. Every team needs a 3rd PG.

That's simply not the case for this team.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Battle Tested20 on Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:07 pm

revgen wrote:
Darius Morris working regularly at the Lakers' training facility

By Eric Pincus

June 1, 2013, 1:40 p.m.

Lakers guard Darius Morris is a regular at the team's training facility.

In addition to improving his outside shot, Morris is working under the guidance of strength and conditioning coach Tim DiFrancesco.

While Morris is still learning to play at the right pace, offensively, he made a leap in his second season after sitting for most of his rookie year as the 41st pick in the 2011 NBA draft.

Through four postseason games against the San Antonio Spurs, Morris averaged 10.5 points on 45.7% shooting with 3.0 assists.

The 22-year-old guard will hit free agency for the second time in his short career in July. The team is expected to give him a qualifying offer of $1.2 million to make him a restricted free agent.

The Lakers have both Steve Nash and Steve Blake under contract at point guard but in addition to being being able to fill in as a low-minute third, Morris has the size to play multiple positions.

Coach Mike D'Antoni experimented with the 6-foot-4 Morris as the team's defensive stopper on the perimeter, even starting him against Carmelo Anthony of the New York Knicks.

While Morris wasn't necessarily ready for the role, his gym-rat personality suggests he'll continue to improve.

If the Lakers don't give him a qualifying offer, he would hit free agency unrestricted -- although the team could still look to re-sign him.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-darius-morris-lakers-workouts-20130601,0,2595017.story


great :nono2: Probably means Glock (our most promising guard in the SA series) won't be back
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:04 pm

What is the incentive to bring him back? For 1.2 million dollars?

That's a vet. min player right there that could contribute way more than Morris ever can or will.

Morris shouldn't even be in the league. :bang:
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:20 pm

And I hate reading articles that are full of brown nosing BS....

1.) He made a leap in his second year?

Season 1 - 9 min / 43%FG / 44% 3PT / 2 points / 1 assist / 1 TO
Season 2 - 14 min / 39% FG / 36% 3PT / 4 points / 1.6 assists / 1 TO

Shoots 65% from the free throw line? :freak2:

Big jump in production.

2.) Morris cannot play multiple positions. He can barely play PG as his playmaking skills are non-existent and he can't play SG because he can't create for himself. Defensively he does what exactly?

3.) He's a gym rat. So what? I bet 95% of the guys in the league are gym rats. It's kind of what you need to do to play at the NBA level. I bet 95% of the guys not in the league are gym rats. They need to be just to get a chance to make a team.

The FO should be thinking about getting an upgrade at the PG spot, considering the 40 year old and 34 year old injury prone PG's in front of him.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby trodgers on Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:22 pm

Morris or Gouelock? gl0ck in a heartbeat.
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Re: Roster Improvement: Free Agents Now and Later?

Postby Kobe8Fan on Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:58 pm

I admire the kid's work ethic but Lakers need to move on. Don't re-sign Darius.
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Raptors Will Attempt To Trade Andrea Bargnani By July 1

Postby Kobe8Fan on Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:15 pm

Raptors Will Attempt To Trade Andrea Bargnani By July 1

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First order of biz for new Raps GM Masai Ujiri: Word is he'll shop Andrea Bargnani everywhere he can in hopes of moving him before July 1


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David West Wants To Re-Sign With Pacers

Postby Kobe8Fan on Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:17 pm

David West Wants To Re-Sign With Pacers

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By CHRIS TOMASSON |
Published: Friday, May 31, 2013, 12:37am

MIAMI — David West has been a big challenge all season for the Miami Heat. Look for it continue next season.

The Indiana power forward said after Thursday night’s 90-79 loss to the Heat at AmericanAirlines he wants to re-sign with the Pacers this summer as a free agent.

“Yeah,’’ West said an interview with FOX Sports Florida after his team fell behind 3-2 in the Eastern Conference finals. “I love what we’ve been able to accomplish in the lockout season (of 2011-12) and this full season. And I just pretty much love how this group has grown together since I’ve been there.’’

West signed a two-year, $20 million deal with the Pacers before last season. He was asked if he’s had any talks yet with Indiana officials about re-signing.

“I don’t think we can officially,’’ said West of the free agency period starting July 1. “But these guys know that I’m with them (for the future).’’

West averaged 22.7 points against the Heat in three regular-season games and has averaged 18.2 points against them in five games in the East finals.

“They have a very good team,’’ Heat center Chris Bosh said of West wanting to re-sign. “He’d fit in there. I was kind of surprised when he went there. It was like, ‘Dang, they got a pretty good steal,' because that was a signing that didn’t get a lot of notice, but it was very huge. They’ve got something, so I’m sure they want to keep it intact.’’

West said he’s concentrating on keeping the Pacers alive in Saturday’s Game 6 in Indiana. But he reiterated Indiana is where he wants to be again next season.

“Yeah,’’ said West, who averaged 17.1 points and 7.7 rebounds during the regular season. “This group is a good group. Solid guys in here. I really enjoy being a part of it.’’

Chris Tomasson can be reached at christomasson@hotmail.com or on Twitter @christomasson.


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Source: Hawks May Consider Signing David West

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Source: Hawks May Consider Signing David West

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The Atlanta Hawks may consider signing David West this summer, according to a source.

The Hawks are projected to have enough salary cap room this summer to sign two max free agents.

The Los Angeles Clippers and Memphis Grizzlies have also been mentioned as potential suitors for West, who will become an unrestricted free agent on July 1.


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Nate Robinson Would Welcome Return To Knicks

Postby Kobe8Fan on Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:28 pm

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By Jared Zwerling | ESPNNewYork.com

Nate Robinson, who will be an unrestricted free agent come July 1, would be open to returning to the Knicks, according to his agent, Aaron Goodwin.

"Nate's first thought would be to remain with the Bulls, but if the Knicks' opportunity presented itself, I am sure he would appreciate an opportunity to play in New York again," he told ESPNNewYork.com.

Robinson started his NBA career in New York, where he played four-and-a-half seasons before being traded to the Celtics in Feb. 2010. During his time with the Knicks, he averaged 12.5 points, 2.8 assists and nearly one steal in about 25 minutes per game.

Since then, Robinson has played for the Celtics, Thunder and Warriors, and he just wrapped up his first stint in Chicago, where he became one of the top playoff performers. Without Derrick Rose and mostly Kirk Hinrich due to injuries, Robinson took the reins at starting point guard and averaged 16.3 points, 4.4 assists and one steal in 12 postseason games. He helped lead the short-handed Bulls past the Nets in seven games in the first round, and then a Game 1 upset over the Heat.

In the playoffs, Robinson not only showed he can score on the bigger stage, but also his patience, consistency and decision-making as the main floor general were impressive. Those have always been question marks in his game. But against the Heat, he earned the respect of LeBron James, who wanted to guard him after Game 1.

Robinson will also be an attractive free agent for his many championship-level intangibles, including energy, spirit, confidence, fearlessness, hustle and leadership. Those qualities would win over the demanding, defensive-minded and old-school coach Mike Woodson.

The biggest question is: Would the Knicks be able to afford Robinson, who earned $1.15 million last season? Goodwin will likely seek a mid-level contract for his client, and the Knicks do have a taxpayer mid-level exception of $3.18 million to spend.

Whether or not Jason Kidd and Pablo Prigioni both return, the Knicks will at least explore the market for a younger backup point guard. Aaron Brooks (team option), Will Bynum, A.J. Price and Sebastian Telfair might be available, and Shane Larkin (University of Miami), Pierre Jackson (Baylor) and Nate Wolters (South Dakota State) could be free at the Knicks' pick (No. 24) in the draft.

But Robinson is arguably the best, most affordable point guard in the free-agent class. The Knicks, however, will need to evaluate how they're going to use Iman Shumpert and J.R. Smith, who will likely re-sign, next season. The Knicks envision Shumpert handling the ball more, and with Smith coming off the bench, could he play alongside Robinson, who's also known as an instant scorer entering a game?

If Robinson continues to develop running a team, he could help Smith, and others, score more easily and consistently next season. He would also help the Knicks play at a faster pace. Imagine Robinson-to-Smith alley-oops in transition -- that would sure rock the Garden crowd. The Knicks' offense took a major step back in the playoffs because they couldn't get enough deep-paint penetration. That's Robinson game -- and a whole lot more.


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