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Postby Weezy on Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:39 am

Wright is my top choice free agent SG, so if we really aren't trying for him I'm also upset. Maybe the mini-MLE isn't enough, but I'd certainly offer that.
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Postby D.B. Cooper on Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:43 am

He's my top choice too but I bet he's out of our range.
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Postby lakersin4 on Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:53 am

therealdeal wrote:Granger's knee problems don't bode well and Deng isnt really on the market anyway. They always say he is but they never actually trade him.

They never had Jimmy Butler ready to take his place on a rookie contract either.. I think this will be the year Deng moves if it happens.
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Postby lakersin4 on Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:54 am

Wright is going to get near full MLE money.. I'm sure that's why we're not after him.
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Postby OX1947 on Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:16 pm

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Postby therealdeal on Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:20 pm

lakersin4 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Granger's knee problems don't bode well and Deng isnt really on the market anyway. They always say he is but they never actually trade him.

They never had Jimmy Butler ready to take his place on a rookie contract either.. I think this will be the year Deng moves if it happens.

Maybe, but I doubt it.
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Postby TheOp on Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:26 pm

Sad to see OJ Mayo going to the Bucks, I thought he should be our top priority.
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:28 pm

TheOp wrote:Sad to see OJ Mayo going to the Bucks, I thought he should be our top priority.

He, along with Dorrell Wright, JJ Reddick, and Chase Budinger, is out of our price range.
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Postby Doc Brown on Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:06 pm

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Postby lakersin4 on Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:04 pm

Maybe I'm crazy but I don't really blame Dwight for our lack of activity. I think no matter what Dwight did we'd be waiting for the guys that are around when the money dries up. We just don't have enough money to go after the guys that are really in demand. We're coming off a terrible season by our standards & don't have the usual appeal to free agents. If Dwight would have gave us a commitment on july 1st I don't think it changes a single thing. This seems to be our strategy as long we're way over the tax.. Wait & see who the best guys we can lowball for the minimum are & hope for the best.
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:47 pm

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Can't beat that money.

But I'm surprised Atlanta even offered him a contract so early in the summer. Giving up on Dwight/other Max?
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Postby Savory Griddles on Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:20 pm

therealdeal wrote:
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Can't beat that money.

But I'm surprised Atlanta even offered him a contract so early in the summer. Giving up on Dwight/other Max?


Well, they had the ability to sign both CP3 and Howard. I think that's what they were gunning for. With CP3 wrapped up in Clipperdom, I don't think they have to worry about keeping THAT much cap space open.
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Postby Savory Griddles on Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:22 pm

Any word on Darren Collison? My dream offseason still includes us resigning Dwight, flipping Pau and our 2014 pick for Eric Gordon and Anderson and signing Collison to the Mini-MLE.
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Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:42 pm

Savory Griddles wrote:Any word on Darren Collison? My dream offseason still includes us resigning Dwight, flipping Pau and our 2014 pick for Eric Gordon and Anderson and signing Collison to the Mini-MLE.


Good.... and I was getting worried that people were getting carried away with their expectations.... :man10:

I'd just like us to begin the process of rebuilding this year rather than banking everything on one next summer.
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Postby Savory Griddles on Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:55 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
Savory Griddles wrote:Any word on Darren Collison? My dream offseason still includes us resigning Dwight, flipping Pau and our 2014 pick for Eric Gordon and Anderson and signing Collison to the Mini-MLE.


Good.... and I was getting worried that people were getting carried away with their expectations.... :man10:

I'd just like us to begin the process of rebuilding this year rather than banking everything on one next summer.


Hey now. I did preface it by saying it was my dream offseason. But honestly, if we resign Dwight and get Collison with the mni mle and move Pau for ANYTHING, I'll be happy.
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Postby lakersin4 on Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:56 pm

That Gordon & Anderson deal is seriously the best Pau deal we've heard about since Dragic/Martin/Scola or CP3, however you want to think of it. We're fools if that's out there & we aren't forcing the issue. Anderson is arguably the best stretch 4 in the game & Gordon has a ton of a value to the teams that covet him.
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Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:28 pm

Savory Griddles wrote:
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Savory Griddles wrote:Any word on Darren Collison? My dream offseason still includes us resigning Dwight, flipping Pau and our 2014 pick for Eric Gordon and Anderson and signing Collison to the Mini-MLE.


Good.... and I was getting worried that people were getting carried away with their expectations.... :man10:

I'd just like us to begin the process of rebuilding this year rather than banking everything on one next summer.


Hey now. I did preface it by saying it was my dream offseason. But honestly, if we resign Dwight and get Collison with the mni mle and move Pau for ANYTHING, I'll be happy.


:man10: I was just joshin'....

Pau for ANYTHING is my dream.....

I like Collison but not sure he'd come here for the MiniMLE.

I'm indifferent on Howard.
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Postby lakersin4 on Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:08 pm

My semi (not at all) realistic dream offseason at this point:

Dwight & Earl Clark return. Collison for the mini mle.. If Nick Young would take the minimum obviously you take him, but more realistically, Sasha, Kmart & Nate for the minimum. Pau for Ryan Anderson & Eric Gordon. Gordon to Indy for Granger & Green. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kk4x7vu

Amnesty MWP. Dump Blake somewhere along the way. I know that's overkill in the backcourt but with Kobe possibly out until Dec & Nash a walking injury, we need backups that are ready to step in & play big minutes when needed.

Nash/Collison/Nate
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Dwight/Hill/K-Mart

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Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:04 am

Savory Griddles wrote:Any word on Darren Collison? My dream offseason still includes us resigning Dwight, flipping Pau and our 2014 pick for Eric Gordon and Anderson and signing Collison to the Mini-MLE.


Darren Collison ? How many Mavs game did you watch last season ? ... and Pau value is WAY lower than that
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Postby Finwë on Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:02 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:
Savory Griddles wrote:Any word on Darren Collison? My dream offseason still includes us resigning Dwight, flipping Pau and our 2014 pick for Eric Gordon and Anderson and signing Collison to the Mini-MLE.


Darren Collison ? How many Mavs game did you watch last season ? ... and Pau value is WAY lower than that

This. Even as an expiring, Pau won't net you young high quality players..
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Postby paperplanes on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:34 am

Dwight is gone. Never wanted to be traded here and was never happy.
Pau moves to center, MWP moves to power forward, Earl Clark signs multi year contract with Cavs or Clips and Lakers sign Francisco Garcia for vet min. They also get a defensive, rebounding backup power forward.
lakers save cap space for 2014 which consists of kobe, pau, dirk, granger, deng and bogut. Lebron, wade do not opt out and the rest of the free agents are restricted and will not leave there current teams. This includes kyrie irving, john wall, derrick favors, paul george, and cousins.
this is depressing.
Who on this list is a cornerstone for team? 2 maybe 3. Chances that they are available? None.
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Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:53 am

paperplanes wrote:Dwight is gone. Never wanted to be traded here and was never happy.
Pau moves to center, MWP moves to power forward, Earl Clark signs multi year contract with Cavs or Clips and Lakers sign Francisco Garcia for vet min. They also get a defensive, rebounding backup power forward.
lakers save cap space for 2014 which consists of kobe, pau, dirk, granger, deng and bogut. Lebron, wade do not opt out and the rest of the free agents are restricted and will not leave there current teams. This includes kyrie irving, john wall, derrick favors, paul george, and cousins.
this is depressing.
Who on this list is a cornerstone for team? 2 maybe 3. Chances that they are available? None.
They only way Lakers get a superstar is through a trade. That is reality.


Be prepared for pushback...... Reality is out of the grasp of a lot of the fans.... :man10:

I agree with most of what you wrote. I hope we find a contender who may want Pau or Nash for some compensation. The FA stuff is right on the nose. Our problem is and will be our avoidance of the draft. You get good young talent for half the FA retail cost for a few years...... SA is a great example of that.
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Postby JSM on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:59 am

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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby D.B. Cooper on Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:08 am

paperplanes wrote:Dwight is gone. Never wanted to be traded here and was never happy.
Pau moves to center, MWP moves to power forward, Earl Clark signs multi year contract with Cavs or Clips and Lakers sign Francisco Garcia for vet min. They also get a defensive, rebounding backup power forward.
lakers save cap space for 2014 which consists of kobe, pau, dirk, granger, deng and bogut. Lebron, wade do not opt out and the rest of the free agents are restricted and will not leave there current teams. This includes kyrie irving, john wall, derrick favors, paul george, and cousins.
this is depressing.
Who on this list is a cornerstone for team? 2 maybe 3. Chances that they are available? None.
They only way Lakers get a superstar is through a trade. That is reality.


I like the idea of moving Pau to C if Howard doesn't resign. Also I wouldn't mind seeing Kobe at SF, maybe find a defensive minded guard if we can't find an athletic SF.
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