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Postby Jazzygirl205 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:19 pm

Re-build era is gonna look brutal. I know thinking we can get LeBron is a lost cause because he just won his second title, so I think he'll be content in South Beach. I'm still gonna support my team this up and coming season but it's gonna be some hard to watch.
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Postby Ariza3 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:25 pm

wow Iggy signing with Warriors was suprising
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Postby Ariza3 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:27 pm

so our team sucks now and we havent gotten close to signing anyone. we've just lost players or let them go. awesome. awesome. awesome.
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Postby Armani on Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:28 pm

There are no good defenders left on this roster. :man10:
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Postby Ariza3 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:45 pm

so we gonna go after Ellis now? if so, Mike would be happy to have his "small ball" lineup. we got work to do tho. we have nobody.

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Postby Battle Tested20 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:48 pm

I know we'll eventually figure it out, but darn it this upcoming season is going to be tough...
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Postby lakersin4 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:00 pm

Would be pretty funny if Drew comes back for the mini mle.. He's always had a chip on his shoulder about Dwight being talked about as the unquestioned best C in the league.. Come back & take the challenge that Dwight backed down from Drew.
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Postby Weezy on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:03 pm

Roland Lazenby ‏@lazenby 23s

Obviously, Jim Buss has spurned every opportunity to involve Phil in Lakers basketball operations. Interesting to see what Jim has in mind.


I'm worried, I don't think Jim had a plan B, I think he was all in on Dwight like a fool and he gambled and lost. Now we scrape the bottom of the free agent barrel in order to have the required amount of players needed for a team.
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Postby The Rock on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:09 pm

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Postby Ariza3 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:13 pm

great Copland taken. we seriously got screwed by Dwight. not just bc he left but bc we waited and couldn't sign other players who made the right choice in not waiting bc of financial stability. this sucks. we're gonna be stuck with the same roster as last year but older and without our most athletic players Clark and Dwight and even Morris

Hope we sign someone big like Ellis and move Kobe to the 3 and metta to the 4 (like Dantoni loves) and maybe sign Kenyon as backup PF and an athletic backup 3. after that ill be happy.

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Postby therealdeal on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:16 pm

Weezy wrote:
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Obviously, Jim Buss has spurned every opportunity to involve Phil in Lakers basketball operations. Interesting to see what Jim has in mind.


I'm worried, I don't think Jim had a plan B, I think he was all in on Dwight like a fool and he gambled and lost. Now we scrape the bottom of the free agent barrel in order to have the required amount of players needed for a team.

I disagree. Jim and Mitch are actually really good at personnel movement and that's not something I'm so much worried about.
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Postby Weezy on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:26 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Weezy wrote:
Roland Lazenby ‏@lazenby 23s

Obviously, Jim Buss has spurned every opportunity to involve Phil in Lakers basketball operations. Interesting to see what Jim has in mind.


I'm worried, I don't think Jim had a plan B, I think he was all in on Dwight like a fool and he gambled and lost. Now we scrape the bottom of the free agent barrel in order to have the required amount of players needed for a team.

I disagree. Jim and Mitch are actually really good at personnel movement and that's not something I'm so much worried about.


I'm worried because they obviously didn't do all they could to keep Dwight, like firing 'Antoni. I also agree with his latest one

Roland Lazenby ‏@lazenby 55s

Damage is to the Lakers' image as a franchise that attracts+keeps top talent. Dr. Buss always maintained that. Jim lost it in short order
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Postby Ariza3 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:32 pm

being "The Lakers" isn't enough when Jim Buss is running things. compete turn off without Dr. Buss with the final say on EVERYTHING
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Postby therealdeal on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:35 pm

I'm inclined to think that, like a lot of Laker fans, they KNOW they didn't do anything to actually keep Howard. I don't think they WANTED to keep Howard. I think Howard was their Plan B with Chris Paul BECAUSE Paul is a real leader and a real Plan A. I think they pulled for Howard ANYWAY because he was better than Bynum (and Bynum's knees were shot) and I think they hoped he COULD be a Plan A.

If Dwight re-signed after this hardball pitch, then I think the Lakers change their stance on Dwight's personality. But I think otherwise that the Lakers didn't do all they could because they know Dwight isn't the main guy to lead us to the promise land.

Remember: we got Chris FIRST. Dwight was always our Plan B guy.
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Postby Finwë on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:38 pm

Armani wrote:There are no good defenders left on this roster. :man10:

That's what scares me the most about this team
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Postby Weezy on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:40 pm

You might be right real, Kevin Ding just said this

KEVIN DING ‏@KevinDing 8m

Part of being a fan is ardent rooting vs. others. Don't believe Lakers PR rhetoric recently: Lakers felt disappointed by Dwight last season.


Also, one more from Lazenby

Roland Lazenby ‏@lazenby 2m

I'm pointing out things, but I'm not attacking Jim Buss. He could well have a plan. Has done good things. Been thru a tough year. But...
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Postby Crispy on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:55 pm

Trade Nash for cap space. Maybe Dallas takes him with their cap space?
Trade Gasol for Okafor, Seraphin, future picks.
Amnesty World Peace.
Have Kobe sit out for a majority of the year. Tank for a top 5 pick.
Then in 2014, if Kobe takes a paycut (down to 12-15M/year), and we land a top 5 pick, we can surround them with quality FAs.

C - Emeka Okafor
PF - Jordan Hill
SF - ?
SG - Jodie Meeks
PG - Steve Blake

With that starting 5 for a majority of the season, that HAS to be a bottom 5 team doesn't it?
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Postby JLaker17 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:13 pm

therealdeal wrote:I'm inclined to think that, like a lot of Laker fans, they KNOW they didn't do anything to actually keep Howard. I don't think they WANTED to keep Howard. I think Howard was their Plan B with Chris Paul BECAUSE Paul is a real leader and a real Plan A. I think they pulled for Howard ANYWAY because he was better than Bynum (and Bynum's knees were shot) and I think they hoped he COULD be a Plan A.

If Dwight re-signed after this hardball pitch, then I think the Lakers change their stance on Dwight's personality. But I think otherwise that the Lakers didn't do all they could because they know Dwight isn't the main guy to lead us to the promise land.

Remember: we got Chris FIRST. Dwight was always our Plan B guy.


Never thought of it this way, but it also makes complete sense. Very good point.
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Postby therealdeal on Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:20 pm

Thanks guys. I really am starting to think that's what we're looking at.
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Postby Balance&Options24 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:31 pm

Now that Dwight's sign all the dominoes are falling.



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Postby Finwë on Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:37 pm

@WojYahooNBA: Jose Calderon has agreed to a four year deal with Dallas, agent Mark Bartelstein says.
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Postby lakersyunowin on Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:43 pm

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Postby lakersin4 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:04 pm

Wow Jose got 4 year 29M.. Cuban can't have Dwight so he screws whoever does out of getting Jose for cheap. Classic Cuban.
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Postby Finwë on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:38 pm

KEVIN DING ‏@KevinDing 31s
Bear in mind: With Dwight leaving, Lakers' plan -- assuming nothing changes -- was to amnesty Metta and keep Pau.
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Postby Weezy on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:40 pm

KEVIN DING ‏@KevinDing 57s

Bear in mind: With Dwight leaving, Lakers' plan -- assuming nothing changes -- was to amnesty Metta and keep Pau.


I like the amnesty Metta part, but not thrilled about keeping Pau, that time has come and gone, time to move on.
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