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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby lakersin4 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:19 am

CarolinaLakerFan wrote:Now we need to find a small forward that can guard the bigger wings in the NBA. Who that'll be on our shoestring budget is anybody's guess.

That's Dominic McGuire or Sam Young. They're the best defenders available at SF right now.. Stephen Jackson still plays decent defense & I wouldn't mind signing him & 1 of McGuire/Young/Wesley Johnson/Ronnie Brewer.

I don't know if there was any rumor about Blake & Meeks for Ariza or if that just an idea someone posted, but I'd love to make a move like that.. It'd be cool if it was Ariza but I'd give Blake & Meeks up for pretty much any player worthy of being a starting SF.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:21 am

^^^^ Nick Young and Kobe .... small lineups with Farmar, Meeks and Blake at the 2 all season long
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby lakersin4 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:34 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:^^^^ Nick Young and Kobe .... small lineups with Farmar, Meeks and Blake at the 2 all season long

Most of what we've heard indicates that Kobe won't be back until December or January.. What's our SF rotation for the 25-40 games Kobe misses? I'm completely against the idea of moving Kobe back to SF for long stretches.. He's still better at keeping up with SG's than he is at stopping SF's from being able to push him around.. I don't want him to put any unnecessary strain on his body because without him we have nothing.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Ariza3 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:33 am

Capt. Jack! we need a SF and he'll be cheap and effective as a backup. and sign Odom please

Nash/Blake/Farmar
Kobe/Meeks
Young/Capt. Jack/CDR
Odom/Hill/Kelly
Pau/Kaman/Sacre
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:01 am

So here's the roster:
Nash/Blake/Farmar
Bryant/Meeks
Young
Hill/Kelly
Gasol/Kaman/Sacre

We need more SG/SF types and probably one more PF. Say 2 SG/SFs and a PF. Here's who's available according to the NBA.com Free Agent tracker:

Guards-
Will Bynum
Leandro Barbosa
Diante Garrett
Daniel Gibson
Andrew Goudelock
Xavier Henry
Royal Ivey
Roger Mason Jr.
Nate Robinson
Jamaal Tinsley
Beno Udrih

Guard-Forwards:
Alan Anderson
Terrence Williams
Sam Young
Damien Wilkens
Tracy McGrady
James White
Chris Douglas-Roberts

Forwards-
Luke Babbitt
Ronnie Brewer
Marquis Daniels
Carlos Delfino
Michael Gelabale
James Johnson
Wesley Johnson
Dahntay Jones
Corey Maggette
Cartier Martin
Mickael Pietrus
Jerry Stackhouse
Lance Thomas
Hedo Turkoglu
Luke Walton

Power Forwards-
Lou Amundson
Ivan Johnson
Jon Leuer
Kenyon Martin
Jason Maxiell
Lamar Odom
Vladimir Radmanovic
Anthony Tolliver
Charlie Villanueva
Earl Barron
Elton Brand
Byron Mullens
Chris Wilcox
Brandan Wright
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby jhalp on Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:02 am

JAMES JOHNSON...We need some defense.

Scouting report
+ Overaggressive, erratic combo forward with scoring skills. Plays out of control.
+ Quick but turnover prone and a shaky outside shooter. Can overpower 3s inside.
+ High-energy, effective defender. Gambles and fouls a lot, but creates havoc.

Analysis
Johnson is a high-energy, high-mistake player, but last season he finally began to turn the corner on having the energy to offset the mistakes. Defensively, he has become a real force, leading all small forwards in blocks, ranking eighth in steals and, um, finishing third in fouls. His energy translates to the glass too, where he was 10th at the position in rebound rate.

Johnson played a lot of those minutes as an undersized 4, and while that put him at a bit of a disadvantage defensively, he managed to hold his own on most nights. Meanwhile, it made his offensive shortcomings less of a negative. Johnson can attack opposing bigs off the dribble with less risk of theft given his own shaky handle, and his mediocre outside shot is less of a liability at this spot.

That said, he remains a low-percentage player. Johnson made only 31.6 percent of his shots from beyond 10 feet, but they comprised nearly half his shot attempts. Worse, the vast majority of them were long 2s. While he cut his turnover ratio significantly compared to the ridiculous levels of previous seasons, he still finished 60th out of 67 small forwards in turnover ratio.

Johnson still has a lot of rough edges, but his progress was an encouraging sign. He just needs to become a little more accurate with the jumper to become a fairly valuable bench player, especially in small-ball arrangements.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:12 am

I'm not against James Johnson at all. I think he has the physical ability to be a very talented defender in this league. He's VERY athletic.

I would definitely give him a shot here.

The biggest problem: in D'Antoni's offense you have to shoot.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Psychobroker on Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:14 am

So when is Dwight Howard's departure going to make it in this thread as an addition by subtraction?
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby gcclaker on Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:15 am

Focusing on the 3 spot... Sam Young. Wasn't he very good on both sides of the ball when he was with Memphis? If not, Wesley Johnson, though he would likely be out of the Lakers' price range.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby lakerfan2 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:33 am

from that list:

SF:
Ronnie Brewer
Sam Young
Hedo Turkoglu
Wesley Johnson
James Johnson

PF:
Lamar Odom
Kenyon Martin
Elton Brand
Charlie Villanueva
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby gradymac on Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:44 am

Wesley johnson
Odom
Brand

This would be a Damn successful off season if we could somehow steal these guys.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby XXIV on Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:47 am

I'll take Brewer and W. Johnson for the SF sports, LO/KMart at the PF. I'd be happy if we could get just one of these guys, two would be amazing.
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Postby The Rock on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:00 pm

You guys still think this team is gonna be competitive huh? Lol
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby XXIV on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:05 pm

The Rock wrote:You guys still think this team is gonna be competitive huh? Lol


Who knows, crazier things have happened. I just think this team will be fun to watch which is more than I can say about last season's team.
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Postby lakerfan2 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:08 pm

The Rock wrote:You guys still think this team is gonna be competitive huh? Lol


Look at a team like Indiana, Memphis.

They're not build around stars, they're built around chemistry.

Some stars may have emerged from those teams, but you never really thought a second beforehand.

And...we have Kobe. :jam2:
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Postby The Rock on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:09 pm

I dont think losing is gonna be fun but we gotta do what we gotta do to cash in on the 2014 NBA draft and free agency.
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Postby The Rock on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:10 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:
The Rock wrote:You guys still think this team is gonna be competitive huh? Lol


Look at a team like Indiana, Memphis.

They're not build around stars, they're built around chemistry.

Some stars may have emerged from those teams, but you never really thought a second beforehand.

And...we have Kobe. :jam2:



Indiana plays in the (L)east and Memphis has a pretty talented squad who are young. Our talent is either old/injured and our young guys arent very good lol
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Postby tigerjeterkobe on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:12 pm

The Rock wrote:You guys still think this team is gonna be competitive huh? Lol


Well, it could be -- competitive but not contend -- if we added LO, were able to trade Blake and Meeks for Ariza, and added Nate or Bynum, Delonte, and Capt Jack or Sam Young for the minimum.


Nash, Nate or Bynum, Farmar
Kobe, Nick Young, Delonte, (Ariza)
Ariza, Sam Young or Jack, (Nick Young)
LO, Hill, Kelly
Gasol, Caveman, Sacre

Roster of 14 with lots of guys who can play multiple positions, play together, and shoot shoot shoot....just like MDA likes it (esp if you are talking about Nate and Capt. Jack -who love to chuck).

Did Speights re-sign with the Grizz?
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Postby XXIV on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:15 pm

^ Speights signed with the Warriors.
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Postby tigerjeterkobe on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:17 pm

What??? Oh boy. Those guys are stacked this year. They may actually be better than the Clips and OKC -- with Speights, Rush coming back, and now Iggy. WOW
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby The Rock on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:18 pm

So Young is gonna be our small forward according to Mitch

I guess we're gonna rolll with Nash/Blake/Farmar/Meeks until Kobe comes back
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Postby XXIV on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:19 pm

^^ They'll definitely be better this season, now Bogut just needs to stay relative healthy.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:28 pm

XXIV wrote:I'll take Brewer and W. Johnson for the SF sports, LO/KMart at the PF. I'd be happy if we could get just one of these guys, two would be amazing.

I included Wesley Johnson because he's one of my favorites, but I think he's out of our range by quite a bit. I see Phoenix bringing him back for 3-4 million dollars.

From my list I'd love to get James Johnson, Chris Douglas-Roberts, and Lamar Odom. I think that really fills out our team nicely for the situation we're in.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby XXIV on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:32 pm

therealdeal wrote:
XXIV wrote:I'll take Brewer and W. Johnson for the SF sports, LO/KMart at the PF. I'd be happy if we could get just one of these guys, two would be amazing.

I included Wesley Johnson because he's one of my favorites, but I think he's out of our range by quite a bit. I see Phoenix bringing him back for 3-4 million dollars.

From my list I'd love to get James Johnson, Chris Douglas-Roberts, and Lamar Odom. I think that really fills out our team nicely for the situation we're in.


I'm hoping Kobe can convince Wesley to come here for the minimum. They share the same agent and have some connection back to Welsey's first season in the league where he joined Kobe for a workout.

As for James Johnson I don't know too much about him. What type of a player is he?
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby The Rock on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:35 pm

Something to think about in regards to 2014: We may able to get Dirk, I wonder if Nash can convince him to join us for cheap?

Look at that Mavs roster: VC, Bernard James, Jae Crowder, Marion, Jose Calderon, Monta Ellis no decent bigs...2 consecutive years of capspace, having a championship coach and they have struck out on Deron Williams, CP3, Howard and whatever border line all star out there and are stuck with Calderon and Ellis in the backcourt for next couple of years LOL . I think we can get him over here next season. Dallas has nothing going for them.
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