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Postby Doc Brown on Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:32 am

@AlexKennedyNBA: The Atlanta Hawks, Milwaukee Bucks, Charlotte Bobcats and Denver Nuggets have expressed interest in Devin Ebanks, according to sources.


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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:37 am

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The kid has some talent and he has an NBA body. He's just a moron. Fortunately for him, young morons can still get contracts.

What I find hilarious about him is that if he'd waited and been mature and been patient... he'd be getting a TON of minutes/opportunities here. If he'd followed up his rookie season the way he should have... he'd be in our rotation RIGHT NOW because he would give us that youth and athleticism we asked for.

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Postby Center Court on Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:53 am

Al Harrington would be a great signing if he's cut. Veteran stretch 4.

I still think we need a SF. Neither Young nor Johnson is going to have great success as a starter and at this point we can't find one in free agency but maybe we can find a trade for one. I still wish Blake/Meeks could be flipped for Ariza.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:21 am

I like the Harrington idea, from what I've read, he seems to be getting into top shape and looking good post injury.

But I think the FO is focused on finding young talent that we can use this year and for the future. It would be nice to have him if we were in serious contention for a title this upcoming season.

I wouldn't be surprised if the last spot we want to fill goes to another young player with something to prove.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:50 pm

We've got one more guard spot open and I think that's about it.

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Douglas-Roberts get that spot. I think it's almost guaranteed to him at this point.

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Bryant/Meeks
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby chingy248 on Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:01 pm

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Pistons acquired PG Brandon Jennings via a sign-and-trade with the Bucks.
The full deal is Jennings for Brandon Knight, Khris Middleton and Slava Kravtsov. Jennings has agreed to a three-year, $24 million deal with Detroit. The Pistons move on from a talented tweener in Knight and get an upgrade in Jennings, a scoring point guard with star potential. He won't turn 24 years old until September, averaging 17.0 points, 5.7 assists and 3.4 rebounds through four NBA seasons. Jennings has plenty of room to improve on his career 39.4 shooting percentage, and will be playing with significant talent in Detroit. The Pistons now have a potential starting five of Jennings, Rodney Stuckey, Josh Smith, Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond.


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no spaceing though lol
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Postby Kit on Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:25 pm

Not as good as you think.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:36 pm

Good for Brandon. I still like him for some reason and I'm happy for him that he's moved on to a new team.

The Pistons might even make the Playoffs now.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

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Postby khmrP on Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:16 am

therealdeal wrote:We've got one more guard spot open and I think that's about it.

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Douglas-Roberts get that spot. I think it's almost guaranteed to him at this point.

Your 2013-2014 Los Angeles Lakers:
Nash/Blake/Farmar
Bryant/Meeks
Young/Johnson/Douglas-Roberts
Hill/Harris/Kelly
Gasol/Kaman/Sacre


man you sure do like this CDR guy, even after the horrible summer league performance?
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Postby karacha on Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:18 am

If we still need a guard, I would really try to sign Sasha for peanuts. It's all about chemistry, and the guy loves the Lakers.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:26 am

Unfortunately, I trust our backcourt more than our frontcourt, and think we need another veteran type PF to round out the roster. Hill/Elias/Kelly does not do it for me.
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Postby Center Court on Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:28 am

Not sure the whole love affair with CDR either. Dude can play, but just not at a consistent NBA level
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:31 am

khmrP wrote:
therealdeal wrote:We've got one more guard spot open and I think that's about it.

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Douglas-Roberts get that spot. I think it's almost guaranteed to him at this point.

Your 2013-2014 Los Angeles Lakers:
Nash/Blake/Farmar
Bryant/Meeks
Young/Johnson/Douglas-Roberts
Hill/Harris/Kelly
Gasol/Kaman/Sacre


man you sure do like this CDR guy, even after the horrible summer league performance?

I've read a lot of articles about Douglas-Roberts' performance in the Summer League and he approached it differently than the other players. They wanted leadership out of him and they wanted him to show a more diversified game than just a scorer. So he was a little bit off, but he did average (I think) the second highest assists on the team and he was among the leader in steals. After reading that the team WANTED him to look different, I understood what I was watching and changed my opinion. The only time I was REALLY disappointed in him was those two turnovers late against Milwaukee.

Not to mention, it's not necessarily ME being high on him, but the team. I'm pretty sure he's a lock for a camp invite and I'm pretty sure he's had extensive conversations with the team. They like him. He's a high character guy, still relatively young, and he's got Kobe's respect. Those are all great things for the team this season. I would be more shocked to hear that he WASN'T among the top contenders to make the team at this point.
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Postby Lakerjones on Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:34 am

^^ Yeah, I think CDR is a shoo-in for at least a camp invite. I too was a little confused by the way CDR was playing out there, but I guess there was a reason. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up picking him up.
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Postby khmrP on Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:35 am

He's suppose to be a scoring SF, not a player maker its not his game....his shooting is horrible and his handles are average at best. He better show more during camp. This might be a lost season but we shouldn't be handing out charity signings because he's a good character guy.
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:40 am

His handles are good enough to get his own shot off actually, so they're better than average. I didn't disagree that he was/is a scoring SF, but the team wanted to see a different side of him and he complied. That means he didn't monopolize the ball and he didn't play the game the way he is used to playing it. He did this for the team which means I'd be shocked if he didn't get a camp invite with his name at the top of the list.

How many guys fighting for a job would do something like that without at least SOME knowledge that they had an inside track with that company?

What charity are you describing anyway? We need one more G/F tweener as it is and he fits that bill. How exactly does he fit as a "charity case"? Because we're giving our 3rd string SG/SF spot to a young guy who is good in a locker room and is willing to do the dirty work? What's so charitable about that?
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Postby khmrP on Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:50 am

therealdeal wrote:His handles are good enough to get his own shot off actually, so they're better than average. I didn't disagree that he was/is a scoring SF, but the team wanted to see a different side of him and he complied. That means he didn't monopolize the ball and he didn't play the game the way he is used to playing it. He did this for the team which means I'd be shocked if he didn't get a camp invite with his name at the top of the list.

How many guys fighting for a job would do something like that without at least SOME knowledge that they had an inside track with that company?

What charity are you describing anyway? We need one more G/F tweener as it is and he fits that bill. How exactly does he fit as a "charity case"? Because we're giving our 3rd string SG/SF spot to a young guy who is good in a locker room and is willing to do the dirty work? What's so charitable about that?


because all this talk bout the team liking his character and he has Kobe respect doesn't translate to much of a positive impact on the court, he may have complied by the teams request but looking terrible doing it should be a factor. As far as I'm concerned the 3rd F is Harris, he's NOT a PF and if we gona use him as such our D will pretty much suck even more, as per his draft weakness, he already has problem guarding "slow" players and has a lot of defensive lapses and has trouble guarding post players. Those are horrible remarks for a player even as a backup and I know he'll play eventually because Hill, Kaman, even Pau are due to miss chunks of games sooner or later.
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Postby Doc Brown on Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:00 am

I'd rather Ronnie Brewer get the last SG/SF spot on the roster.

We have shooters - Nash / Blake / Farmar / Young / Kelly
We have "shooters" - Johnson / Meeks
We have somewhere in between - Kobe

But we don't have any perimeter defenders, aside from Johnson, who is more potential at defending then actual defense.

Brewer would get my last spot.
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:13 am

khmrP wrote:
because all this talk bout the team liking his character and he has Kobe respect doesn't translate to much of a positive impact on the court,

How much court time do you expect our 3rd string SG/SF to have? Honestly? Do you expect to see him out there for 5 minutes every single game? 3 minutes? How often does a team's 3rd string option even see the court for anyone to honestly be upset or care about their production? Will he play as much as Sacre did last season? Will he play as much as Meeks? I mean really, the guy would be so far behind the rotation that the only thing that REALLY matters on a consistent basis is whether or not he's helping the team in practice. And given that he'd be a proven NBA entity (unlike Harris who you hate, but want to replace with a proven NBA entity), I think he'd make a fine 3rd stringer on this team. Most teams don't have 3rd stingers like that.

khmrP wrote: he may have complied by the teams request but looking terrible doing it should be a factor.
All things relative. Here's something from the Lakers.com site in regards to Douglas-Roberts:
CDR SHOWS A DIVERSIFIED GAME

Perhaps the best example of sacrificing his own game for the betterment of the team came from Chris Douglas-Roberts*, a proven scorer at the NBA level – he averaged 17 points for the Nets for over a month when given minutes – who did much more than that in Vegas. At 6-7 with a nice handle, CDR can free himself for jumpers or get to the rim, but he attempted only 32 shots in five games, tied for fifth on the team, instead focusing on playing as a point forward and facilitating for others (his nine assists ranked second to point guard Lester Hudson's 16). Douglas-Roberts also used his length and quickness to be disruptive on D, helping him build a robust individual plus/minus of +42 for the tournament. He wanted to show teams that he could do more than just score, and he did so.*If you want to hear from CDR himself, we recorded an hour-plus long podcast with him.
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So why did he look terrible? Because he didn't dominate the ball and average 25/5/5? That wasn't asked of him. In the D-League last season he averaged 27.8 points 5.4 rebounds and 3.6 assists. That's not even a year ago. He still is absolutely capable of doing what he's been known to do on the floor, he was simply asked to do something else. And relative to the team and to the team's success he did a good job of it.

khmrP wrote:As far as I'm concerned the 3rd F is Harris,
There's such a thing as a SF/PF tweener. Reference: LeBron, Carmelo, etc. Guys with a SF body that play PF because the teams speed up the game. And that's YOUR opinion, not the team's. AND who is to say that he'll ever see playing time anyway? He'll play behind Young, Johnson, Bryant, Gasol, Hill, and Kelly. That's a lot of bodies to wait behind.

khmrP wrote: he's NOT a PF and if we gona use him as such our D will pretty much suck even more, as per his draft weakness, he already has problem guarding "slow" players and has a lot of defensive lapses and has trouble guarding post players.

I have read his draft profile and that's not at all what I've heard. What I've heard is that he has a tendency to over work outside and thus gets caught using his hands instead of his feet. He's lost weight to help alleviate that pressure and if you watched him in the Summer League it shows. It still has a ton of work to do, but that doesn't mean he won't be able to defend slow PFs in the NBA. And again, he won't be playing so who cares?

khmrP wrote:Those are horrible remarks for a player even as a backup and I know he'll play eventually because Hill, Kaman, even Pau are due to miss chunks of games sooner or later.
Do you often read draft profiles? Most of them are entirely negative. Every player has faults. It also states that Harris has an NBA ready body and will likely be ready to rebound at this level because he works hard on the glass. He also has soft hands, a decent touch around the rim, and a recovering outside shot that was over 40% two out of his four years in college. Anyone can go through and read the negative reports about a player and paint a bad picture. That's easy.

Not to mention for the 4th time: he won't play much anyway. We're signing a prospect, not a star. Your expectations don't make sense.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:16 am

Doc Brown wrote:I'd rather Ronnie Brewer get the last SG/SF spot on the roster.

We have shooters - Nash / Blake / Farmar / Young / Kelly
We have "shooters" - Johnson / Meeks
We have somewhere in between - Kobe

But we don't have any perimeter defenders, aside from Johnson, who is more potential at defending then actual defense.

Brewer would get my last spot.

That's fair.

Although I think that if Brewer goes to the D-League his game suffers and he'll get less looks. If Douglas-Roberts goes there's more chance of being noticed like Dallas last season or Brooklyn the year before with Green. As the season goes on, if we want/need another wing I think Brewer will probably be available but Douglas-Roberts might not.
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Postby lakersin4 on Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:33 pm

If we're signing a wing for their defense, give me Dominic McGuire or Sam Young over Brewer. We lost MWP & Earl Clark & haven't added anyone that can play defense against the bigger SF's.. Young & Johnson are quick & will help with us being slow getting back, but they aren't putting a body on anyone & neither is Brewer if it's a SF with size.
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Postby Doc Brown on Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:17 pm

I'd love to have him. Always liked him, but the team is going in a different direction that doesn't involved aging vets on one year deals.

Sucks, all we would have to do let Pau guard Al on offense and he would have been shooting 70% from 3 for the season. I swear that guy never missed when he was guarded by Pau.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby lakersin4 on Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:02 pm

Wouldn't mind taking a chance on Al.. Could see him giving us slightly more than we got out of Jamison.. I'd still prefer Tyrus Thomas for his youth & shotblocking but I think Harrington would be a better fit with D'antoni than LO, so I have Al at #2 on my available PF's list now.. If we enter the season with Hill/Kelly/Harris as our only PF's I'm going to be extremely worried. We'll end up seeing Pau & Kaman have to play together way too much & not be able to take advantage of the speed we added on the perimeter.
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