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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:25 am

Yes to Beasley if he becomes available; he's a low-risk high reward. Sign him for a year for the minimum and if he doesn't work out, dump him. We were very close to having him a couple of years ago at the trade deadline. So, I know from a personnel standpoint, Mitch likes him; we'll just have to see what Phoenix does...as far as what he brings or doesn't, I would take a chance.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Center Court on Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:43 am

JSM wrote:Since he was being mentioned as one of the targets we should go after when he's available...

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George, Sanders, Wall are all going re-up. Out of that draft, Cousins is the guy that may become available.

Young stars, or just young players in general, will never turn down their first big contract to land on a championship team/desirable situation.

That first big contract is all about $$$. In a maybe they go the Bron/Wade/Bosh route and re-sign on a shorter deal with an opt out clause but they are still going to resign.

Losing Dwight was a much bigger blow than Laker fans acknowledge.

Anyhow, Beasley/Odom/Harrington. We need one of them and IMO Ronnie Brewer.

Pau/Kaman/Sacre
Hill/Beasley/Kelly
Young/Johnson
Kobe/Meeks/Brewer
Nash/Blake/Farmar
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby lakersin4 on Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:49 am

JSM wrote:Since he was being mentioned as one of the targets we should go after when he's available...

Kurt Helin ‏@basketballtalk 2h
Report: Bucks, Larry Sanders close to contract extension http://dlvr.it/3ml04b

That's really disappointing.. I was hoping he'd hit restricted free agency & we could load up 1 year of his contract to prevent the Bucks from matching.

Excited with the potential of adding Beasley.. Yes he's a bit of a knucklehead but with Kobe/Nash as mentors I think he'll turn out just fine.. We need him for exactly what he was when we played him last season, instant offense off the bench.. They would bring Beasley in & make runs on us every time we played it seemed like. We just couldn't stop him from getting to the rim. Hopefully we're the ones presenting that problem :man1:
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby kenzo on Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:53 am

Center Court wrote:
JSM wrote:Since he was being mentioned as one of the targets we should go after when he's available...

Kurt Helin ‏@basketballtalk 2h
Report: Bucks, Larry Sanders close to contract extension http://dlvr.it/3ml04b



George, Sanders, Wall are all going re-up. Out of that draft, Cousins is the guy that may become available.

Young stars, or just young players in general, will never turn down their first big contract to land on a championship team/desirable situation.

That first big contract is all about $$$. In a maybe they go the Bron/Wade/Bosh route and re-sign on a shorter deal with an opt out clause but they are still going to resign.

Losing Dwight was a much bigger blow than Laker fans acknowledge.

Anyhow, Beasley/Odom/Harrington. We need one of them and IMO Ronnie Brewer.

Pau/Kaman/Sacre
Hill/Beasley/Kelly
Young/Johnson
Kobe/Meeks/Brewer
Nash/Blake/Farmar

True on all acounts.
As for Howard. Whether someone likes him or not, him leaving was HUGE. I can't remember anyone leaving that much money.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:43 am

Lebron?
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Helljumper on Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:09 pm

Free agent Anthony Tolliver told me Lakers have entered mix as possible team for him & he visited Charlotte Monday. Tolliver said the Lakers recently called his agent, Larry Fox, to express interest. He said talks are still preliminary but he would have definite interest if the Lakers turn out to be a serious option. “Obviously, to have a chance to play for a franchise like that, you’d have to think long and hard about that,’’ the forward told FOX Sports Florida.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby therealdeal on Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:22 pm

Hey HJ, just make a new thread for this.

Every other Laker rumor gets one in the summer, this deserves it's own too.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby JSM on Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:06 am

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So much 4 loyalty: Just over 2 weeks ago and on brink of big pay day, Larry Sanders dumps Andy Miller for Dan Fegan.

Guess he's unsatisfied with how negotiations are being handled, trying to get more coin?
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby therealdeal on Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:43 am

Well that was two weeks ago... Last I'd heard, the deal was almost done.

But yeah, sounds like his previous agent wasn't battling hard enough and he wanted more money from the Bucks. Loyalty? How about get the agent that gets you the most money. Sanders doesn't owe that agent anything.

Agents get paid like any other employee. If that employee isn't making enough scratch for the boss, why is it that the boss should keep him around?
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Kobe8Fan on Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:35 pm

Al Harrington Nearing Deal With Wizards

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Hearing: Newly minted free agent Al Harrington is leaning toward signing with Wizards. More to come shortly


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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby WilliamHaven on Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:00 am

so who is left at PF other than Odom (or Jamison or even potentially Beasley)?
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Postby lakersin4 on Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:47 am

WilliamHaven wrote:so who is left at PF other than Odom (or Jamison or even potentially Beasley)?

Tyrus Thomas, Shawne Williams got a camp invite. I think that's pretty much it unless we snag Harrington away from the Wizards.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby JSM on Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:47 pm

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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Weezy on Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:53 pm

Well I mean yeah, the new CBA is designed to try and even the playing field, the allure of the Lakers would seem to me to remain playing in LA, the winning history, and the commitment to winning (spending to win, championship truly being the goal almost every season) going forward. I guess if this new generation of players needs to be swayed by flashy techniques then our FO will have to adapt, or we will just look for players that value winning first as usual, time will tell I guess.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby revgen on Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:07 pm

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From Buss article: NBA opposing asst coach said FAs feel Lakers' track record impressive but not cutting edge any longer in many areas


Pro

Living in LA
Marketing Opportunities
Track record of winning
Large and loyal fanbase

Con

Not the only team in LA
Coach D'Antoni does not have a winning track record.
State income taxes are high
The core group is made up of older players who seem to be on the wrong side of 30 based on last season's fiasco.
3 coaches in 3 years. Uncertainty about where the franchise is headed.
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Postby Center Court on Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:50 pm

revgen wrote:
JSM wrote:
janis carr ‏@janiscarr 2h
From Buss article: NBA opposing asst coach said FAs feel Lakers' track record impressive but not cutting edge any longer in many areas


Pro

Living in LA
Marketing Opportunities
Track record of winning
Large and loyal fanbase

Con

Not the only team in LA
Coach D'Antoni does not have a winning track record.
State income taxes are high
The core group is made up of older players who seem to be on the wrong side of 30 based on last season's fiasco.
3 coaches in 3 years. Uncertainty about where the franchise is headed.


Good news: all the cons you listed are/can be temporary. bad news: Nobody knows if Jim can keep all the pros as pros.

Obv LeBron AND Melo would 110% restore order in Laker land and Jim would have a great rebound from his Coaching/Dwight debacles. I highly doubt that happens.. If it takes to 2015 and we have a lotto pick and Love/Rondo/Hibbert, I think that'd go along way.

Sadly to say, I think it's going to be a long ride until we're back at the top. IMO Wiggins is the guy who could be the "savior". Our next Kobe/Magic. But then again, we're not exactly looking to lose.

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Postby Kobe8Fan on Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:39 pm

Hey, is Shawn Marion a free agent? I looked that their roster on the Mavs' official website. And it says that he is. Or they did they make a mistake?
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Sources: Ronnie Brewer Has Agreed To Terms With The Rockets

Postby Kobe8Fan on Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:22 pm

Sources: Ronnie Brewer Has Agreed To Terms With The Rockets

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Houston Rockets, I'm told, are wrapping up a deal with free agent Ronnie Brewer


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Dammit! Why didn't Mitch call his agent? I was hoping the Lakers to sign him since nobody wanted him.
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Postby Center Court on Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:07 pm

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Sources: Ronnie Brewer Has Agreed To Terms With The Rockets

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 32m

Houston Rockets, I'm told, are wrapping up a deal with free agent Ronnie Brewer


https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/statu ... 4831147010

Dammit! Why didn't Mitch call his agent? I was hoping the Lakers to sign him since nobody wanted him.


Rockets are cleaning up this off-season. They may very well come out of the west. The one thing Dwight may have done for LA is create a stronger support for the Clips because I, for one, will be rooting hard for Houston to lose.

Asik/D Mo/Camby
Dwight/T Jo/Smith
Parsons/Garcia/Casspi
Harden/Brewer
Beverly/Lin/Brooks

Putting aside all disdain for Dwight, I get why he wanted to play with that team. It's stacked. I think they are best of moving Asik for Ryan Andersen but nonetheless, wow.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:23 pm

That team is stacked? :man3:

"DMO" - What has he done in the league?
Camby - Is he injured yet?
"TJO" - What has he done in the league?
Casspi - Relevant still?
Beverly - One series makes him good now?
Lin - Average at best
Brooks - What has he done in the last few years?
Brewer - Can't shoot, that doesn't help D12 or Asik
Smith - Does he even get minutes to make an impact?

Houston's offense won't be as successful as last season when whoever is guarding Asik is sitting in Howard's lap. Hack a Dwasik will be in full effect.
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Postby Center Court on Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:47 pm

Doc Brown wrote:That team is stacked? :man3:

"DMO" - What has he done in the league?
Camby - Is he injured yet?
"TJO" - What has he done in the league?
Casspi - Relevant still?
Beverly - One series makes him good now?
Lin - Average at best
Brooks - What has he done in the last few years?
Brewer - Can't shoot, that doesn't help D12 or Asik
Smith - Does he even get minutes to make an impact?

Houston's offense won't be as successful as last season when whoever is guarding Asik is sitting in Howard's lap. Hack a Dwasik will be in full effect.


If you want to attach a short sighted negative question for each member of our roster it'd be pitiful.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby therealdeal on Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:20 pm

Did anyone say THIS team was stacked?
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Re: Sources: Ronnie Brewer Has Agreed To Terms With The Rockets

Postby Battle Tested20 on Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:46 pm

Center Court wrote:
Kobe8Fan wrote:
Sources: Ronnie Brewer Has Agreed To Terms With The Rockets

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 32m

Houston Rockets, I'm told, are wrapping up a deal with free agent Ronnie Brewer


https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/statu ... 4831147010

Dammit! Why didn't Mitch call his agent? I was hoping the Lakers to sign him since nobody wanted him.


Rockets are cleaning up this off-season. They may very well come out of the west. The one thing Dwight may have done for LA is create a stronger support for the Clips because I, for one, will be rooting hard for Houston to lose.

Asik/D Mo/Camby
Dwight/T Jo/Smith
Parsons/Garcia/Casspi
Harden/Brewer
Beverly/Lin/Brooks

Putting aside all disdain for Dwight, I get why he wanted to play with that team. It's stacked. I think they are best of moving Asik for Ryan Andersen but nonetheless, wow.


you really think they start Asik and Howard together??? That's not going to happen.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:21 pm

^^^It's being thrown around by McHale. They are going to try it in training camp. D12 is apparently excited to play PF, while Asik plays C.
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Postby Rooscooter on Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:56 pm

Doc Brown wrote:^^^It's being thrown around by McHale. They are going to try it in training camp. D12 is apparently excited to play PF, while Asik plays C.


Funny..... I thought "Herman" was smarter than that.

Howard has enough trouble playing Center on offense and putting him in space on PF's on defense has genius written all over it..... :man10:
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