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Postby kblo247 on Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:05 pm

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Doc Brown wrote:^^^It's being thrown around by McHale. They are going to try it in training camp. D12 is apparently excited to play PF, while Asik plays C.


Funny..... I thought "Herman" was smarter than that.

Howard has enough trouble playing Center on offense and putting him in space on PF's on defense has genius written all over it..... :man10:

Screw that for a bit. It becomes a double hack situation.
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Postby Kobe8Fan on Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:10 pm

James Johnson Will Work Out For Spurs, Hawks and Jazz

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Free agent forward James Johnson will attend workouts for the San Antonio Spurs, Atlanta Hawks and Utah Jazz and is hoping to leave teams impressed, league sources told RealGM.

Ever since Johnson was drafted 16th in the 2009 NBA draft, teams have envisioned him as an athletic forward at 6-foot-9, but he’s yet to put together a breakout season in four years.

Johnson’s ability to perform in workout settings could have one team intrigued enough to give him an opportunity, though.

Johnson played a complete season with the Chicago Bulls in 2009-10, but he was traded to the Toronto Raptors the next year and averaged 9.1 points and 4.7 rebounds in 2011-12. Johnson, 26, spent last season as mostly a reserve for the Sacramento Kings.


http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... Hawks-Jazz

Lakers should be giving James Johnson a call.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Center Court on Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:23 pm

Can anyone think of any superstar/all star players who are going to be looking to be moved for expiring k's this year?
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Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:33 pm

Center Court wrote:Can anyone think of any superstar/all star players who are going to be looking to be moved for expiring k's this year?


LaMarcus Aldridge and Rondo are the ones that come to mind.
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Postby trodgers on Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:00 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:This would be a" let's try to keep Asik happy until we find a good trade for him " move ... terrible idea

That's exactly what I thought.
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Postby earvinfr on Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:55 am

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Center Court wrote:Can anyone think of any superstar/all star players who are going to be looking to be moved for expiring k's this year?


LaMarcus Aldridge and Rondo are the ones that come to mind.

Pau ?
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby Center Court on Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:58 pm

earvinfr wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:
Center Court wrote:Can anyone think of any superstar/all star players who are going to be looking to be moved for expiring k's this year?


LaMarcus Aldridge and Rondo are the ones that come to mind.

Pau ?


I meant who can we target in a trade using Pau/Blake/Meeks/Etc.

Aldridge and Rondo are out of the question IMO
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Postby Rooscooter on Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:21 pm

Center Court wrote:
earvinfr wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:
Center Court wrote:Can anyone think of any superstar/all star players who are going to be looking to be moved for expiring k's this year?


LaMarcus Aldridge and Rondo are the ones that come to mind.

Pau ?


I meant who can we target in a trade using Pau/Blake/Meeks/Etc.

Aldridge and Rondo are out of the question IMO


If we haven't traded Pau we aren't I'm afraid. My guess is that he will expire and sign here again for 10 Million or so after we sign a decent player or two.
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Postby Doc Brown on Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:18 pm

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Postby lakersin4 on Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:03 am

Good.. If the reports are true & Lamar already wants to be a Laker, Jamison to Clips makes it a sure thing if he commits to cleaning up..
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Postby lotus on Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:12 am

lakersin4 wrote:Good.. If the reports are true & Lamar already wants to be a Laker, Jamison to Clips makes it a sure thing if he commits to cleaning up..

You really think it's a good idea to sign someone at the end of their career, for a 1 year contract, who is battling at least a 2 year hardcore drug problem? Come on now.
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Postby lakersin4 on Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:44 am

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lakersin4 wrote:Good.. If the reports are true & Lamar already wants to be a Laker, Jamison to Clips makes it a sure thing if he commits to cleaning up..

You really think it's a good idea to sign someone at the end of their career, for a 1 year contract, who is battling at least a 2 year hardcore drug problem? Come on now.

Well.. He was battling the same drug problem before he went to rehab & signed with the Clips.. & he was a solid contributor for them. There's no reason he can't clean up his act & do the same for us.. With Kobe, Pau, & Farmar around to remind him of the good days, & Phil could & probably would get involved.. I think LO has a better chance at turning it around & atleast being a solid rotation player on this team than any other. Let's be real, it would be a great feel-good story during what will likely be a disappointing season. We could use the distraction. Also, with all the talk of the Lakers no longer being the top notch franchise that we were under Dr. Buss, what better way to prove them wrong by being there for LO & helping him turn his life around? Might be a good selling point for DeMarcus Cousins if he decides to hold the queens at ransom.

Putting all sentimental stuff aside.. Who else is out there to sign? We have 1 PF who has played a single minute in the NBA, & he hasn't shown any ability to stay healthy for more than 16 MPG. If we were interested in Tyrus Thomas we would have heard about it by now, but he's the only remaining PF I take over LO. Once Jamison signs with the Clips those are the only 2 players on the market that have proven anything in the league.
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Postby therealdeal on Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:19 am

lotus wrote:
lakersin4 wrote:Good.. If the reports are true & Lamar already wants to be a Laker, Jamison to Clips makes it a sure thing if he commits to cleaning up..

You really think it's a good idea to sign someone at the end of their career, for a 1 year contract, who is battling at least a 2 year hardcore drug problem? Come on now.

This. One million times this.

Reaching out to show a sign of friendship and support? Absolutely.

Giving him a contract worth one million dollars or more so he can continue to feed his addiction while not providing positive leadership to our team? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

No to Lamar. Offer him some help, but not a contract.
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Postby lakersin4 on Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:39 am

I'm not saying sign him right away.. Obviously he has to get clean & pass a test for us before we even consider anything.. What I'm saying is get that ball rolling.. If Lamar can go through rehab, rejoin our team & stay clean, he's without a doubt the best option out there. There are plenty of if's but what better player are we going to sign for the minimum? We're paper thin at PF & barring a breakout rookie season from Kelly or Harris or Jordan Hill becoming a stud starter for 30+ MPG, we're going to be seeing alot of Pau/Kaman or D'antoni trying to play Wes Johnson at the 4. We desperately need to sign a proven PF, & the only 2 remaining are LO & Tyrus Thomas. I'd much rather sign TT because he's younger & can block shots, but we obviously aren't interested. The only way we end up doing better than LO is if Beasley becomes available & signs here. If we're waiting on that, then I'd still love to see the team reach out & try to help LO get it together.. He was a big part of 3 trips to the finals & played his heart out through thick & thin for us.. Yes he lost it & demanded a trade, but that shows you how much he loved being a Laker.. He was devastated by finding out that we were willing to trade him.. He's still a Laker at heart & I really hope this isn't how his story ends.
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Postby lotus on Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:23 am

lakersin4 wrote:I'm not saying sign him right away.. Obviously he has to get clean & pass a test for us before we even consider anything.. What I'm saying is get that ball rolling.. If Lamar can go through rehab, rejoin our team & stay clean, he's without a doubt the best option out there. There are plenty of if's but what better player are we going to sign for the minimum? We're paper thin at PF & barring a breakout rookie season from Kelly or Harris or Jordan Hill becoming a stud starter for 30+ MPG, we're going to be seeing alot of Pau/Kaman or D'antoni trying to play Wes Johnson at the 4. We desperately need to sign a proven PF, & the only 2 remaining are LO & Tyrus Thomas. I'd much rather sign TT because he's younger & can block shots, but we obviously aren't interested. The only way we end up doing better than LO is if Beasley becomes available & signs here. If we're waiting on that, then I'd still love to see the team reach out & try to help LO get it together.. He was a big part of 3 trips to the finals & played his heart out through thick & thin for us.. Yes he lost it & demanded a trade, but that shows you how much he loved being a Laker.. He was devastated by finding out that we were willing to trade him.. He's still a Laker at heart & I really hope this isn't how his story ends.

Let it go man... There is no fast recovery from crack use. Don't let the nostaligia and love for L.O. cloud your judgement. It is time for him to retire and battle that problem. He can't provide any value to the Lakers and dealing with a busy work schedule will only make the pressures on him worse.

In the meantime, it looks like the clippers will yet again undercutting a potential Lakers move by pursuing Antwan Jamison. They are doing this so much lately that it's starting to seem personal with the Buss family.
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Postby Kobe8Fan on Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:48 am

Lakers need a 3rd string SG. Sign Richard Hamilton!
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Postby TIME on Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:10 am

lotus wrote:In the meantime, it looks like the clippers will yet again undercutting a potential Lakers move by pursuing Antwan Jamison. They are doing this so much lately that it's starting to seem personal with the Buss family.


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Postby lotus on Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:42 am

TIME wrote:
lotus wrote:In the meantime, it looks like the clippers will yet again undercutting a potential Lakers move by pursuing Antwan Jamison. They are doing this so much lately that it's starting to seem personal with the Buss family.


No way Antawn was coming back to play for D'Antoni again.

Yea, very true considering the bad departure. The irony is that I think it would actually work out really well this year if he were on the team considering the roster change and training camp. But, realistically he is in pursuit of a ring and I hope he gets one at some point, but just not with the clippers.
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Postby Ariza3 on Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:33 pm

clipers were taking their time to decide between odom and jamison as they were basically the only ones to really show serious interest. now that the odom drug thing got out their decision was made for them and theyre going after jamison. on D hes bad but on O he'll do alot for them and is a game changer. he single handedly won games for us with his 3 game and rebounding putbacks. so clips are gonna get even more dangerous by taking exlakers.
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Postby earvinfr on Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:54 pm

Ariza3 wrote:clipers were taking their time to decide between odom and jamison as they were basically the only ones to really show serious interest. now that the odom drug thing got out their decision was made for them and theyre going after jamison. on D hes bad but on O he'll do alot for them and is a game changer. he single handedly won games for us with his 3 game and rebounding putbacks. so clips are gonna get even more dangerous by taking exlakers.

I'll not miss Jamison. Shooting and missing a lot of 3s and no defense. I really don't want him back !!
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Postby Weezy on Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:17 am

Is our roster set or something, are we really not going to sign a PF? That to me makes no sense. And when is training camp already? I can't find anything about when it starts online, only when the first preseason game is.
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Postby therealdeal on Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:32 pm

Weezy wrote:Is our roster set or something, are we really not going to sign a PF? That to me makes no sense. And when is training camp already? I can't find anything about when it starts online, only when the first preseason game is.

The only person I heard we might be after still is Amundson, but I bet we have our roster pretty much set.

Nash/Blake/Farmar
Bryant/Young/Meeks
Johnson/Harris
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Postby lotus on Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:55 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Weezy wrote:Is our roster set or something, are we really not going to sign a PF? That to me makes no sense. And when is training camp already? I can't find anything about when it starts online, only when the first preseason game is.

The only person I heard we might be after still is Amundson, but I bet we have our roster pretty much set.

Nash/Blake/Farmar
Bryant/Young/Meeks
Johnson/Harris
Hill/Landry/Kelly
Gasol/Kaman/Sacre

I guess as a makeshift one year roster, it's not so bad. We will need all the luck we can get though.
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Postby Punk-101 on Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:57 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Nash/Blake/Farmar
Bryant/Young/Meeks
Johnson/Harris
Hill/Landry/Kelly
Gasol/Kaman/Sacre


I think these pieces will be shuffled differently. Obviously Blake will still play some pg and Young will still play sg (especially if/when Kobe is out rehabbing), but in terms of where most of their minutes will come, I think this is it.

Nash/Farmar
Bryant/Blake/Meeks
Johnson/Young/Harris
Hill/Kelly/Landry
Gasol/Kaman/Sacre
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Postby therealdeal on Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:07 pm

Punk-101 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
Nash/Blake/Farmar
Bryant/Young/Meeks
Johnson/Harris
Hill/Landry/Kelly
Gasol/Kaman/Sacre


I think these pieces will be shuffled differently. Obviously Blake will still play some pg and Young will still play sg (especially if/when Kobe is out rehabbing), but in terms of where most of their minutes will come, I think this is it.

Nash/Farmar
Bryant/Blake/Meeks
Johnson/Young/Harris
Hill/Kelly/Landry
Gasol/Kaman/Sacre

I was just listing the names in their general positions, but yes you're right.

I think it'll break down something like-
Nash (28)/Blake (5)/Farmar (15)
Bryant (32)/ Blake (11)/Young (5) Meeks (0)
Johnson (24)/(Young 24)/ Harris (0)
Hill (25)/ Kelly (10)/ Gasol (3)/ Landry
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