LooN3y wrote:^ too many players, whos gonna get the boot?
we dont need shannon,
i dont know why everyone is so infatuated with the idea of him joining the team when we have a much better player in henry.
i never liked shannons game, his dunks were dope, but besides the dunks and him actually making 3's he was useless. i dont want him to revive his kobe like shot selection.
im not trying to defend meeks for his lack of productions ( he does play hard) but id take meeks camping and his shot selection any day than have browns antics.
righ tnow its going good, we dont need to make any adjustments till we play a few more games. having meeks just camp out at the 3pt line is better than having brown trying to do some superstar type play.
call me a fool, but i think this team will be able to handle their business
we have a great bench, our starting line up is a bet meh, but itll hopefully get better when jelly bean comesback.
Is Rudy Gay on the trade block?
By Joe Kaiser | ESPN.com
Toronto was criticized by virtually every number-crunching basketball analyst last season when it traded away the expiring contract of Jose Calderon and former first-rounder Ed Davis for one of the game's highest paid players in Rudy Gay whose 15.66 PER last season was barely above league-average.
Gay is set to earn $17.89 million this season and has a $19.32 million player option for next season that he could very well accept as well, which is a poor fit on a Raptors team that is teetering on "trying" and "tanking" this season -- that could all depend on how the month of November goes.
Bruce Arthur mentioned in Monday's National Post that sources indicate new Raptors GM Masai Ujiri, the NBA's Executive of the Year in Denver last season, has had conversations about moving Gay. That's of little surprise, really.
The better question might be whether he can trade Gay, given the amount of salary involved. To that end, we can only say this: never say never. Nobody expected Toronto to be able to deal away Andrea Bargnani as easily as it did, and Ujiri managed to do that.
As for possible fits, Milwaukee could be one. The Bucks have enough pieces to pull off such a deal with the expiring contracts of Caron Butler, Luke Ridnour and Ekpe Udoh. History shows that owner Herb Kohl always opts for making a run at the playoffs over a complete rebuild, and is one way the Bucks could attempt to do so while also bridging the gap to their small forward of the future -- Giannis Antetokounmpo.
Lakerjones wrote:^^ Whew! Glad you were kidding realdeal, my sarcasm radar must not be on right now. I knew that a year or so ago you were in favor of that trade, but I've never felt it was a good return for Pau. I do think you're right about the org's current mindset. And who knows, if we don't make the playoffs maybe we'll get a decent draft pick to work with as well.
dwighthowardsdad wrote:You know I was thinking about this roster today with Kobe; thinking about who was available next year and came up with some scenarios; maybe you guys can poke in my theory about this rotation? We need a younger superstar, a top 10 SF, a upgrade at PG, and a center that can defend, rebound, ala Tyson Chandler in NY...
This is what I would do next year...I'd go after Carmelo, Luol Deng, and Kyle Lowry. My rotation would go something like this;
I put a question mark on Pau; as I mentioned the primary responsibilities of any big on our team should be defend, rebound, finish around the rim; that's it. You're younger, more athletic, added another 10 player and top 10 SF, and your PG rotation got better, younger, and more athletic. That's kind of what I'm looking at moving forward.
Pig Miller wrote:^so you want us to get 2 guys in FA that play the same position while probably having to pay 25M+ for the two of them?
Report: Toronto Raptors prepared to trade ‘anyone but [Jonas] Valanciunas’
BY BRIAN KOTLOFF
(Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images)
The Raptors are reportedly willing to trade veterans Kyle Lowry, Rudy Gay and DeMar DeRozan. (Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images)
The Toronto Raptors and new general manager Masai Ujiri are already preparing to make a splash on the trade market, according to ESPN.com’s Marc Stein.
The front office entered training camp before the 2013-14 season with an open mind about the players on its roster, but there is now a “strong sense” that the Raptors are willing to trade “anyone but [Jonas] Valanciunas,” Stein reports.
Valanciunas, a 22-year-old center who averaged 8.9 points, 6.0 rebounds and 1.3 blocks as a rookie last season, was the fifth overall pick in the 2011 draft.
While Toronto has considered signing veteran forward Rudy Gay to an extension, Ujiri and company are now surveying the league to determine his trade value, along with the values of point guard Kyle Lowry and shooting guard DeMar DeRozan.
DeRozan received a four-year, $40-million contract extension from ex-GM Bryan Colangelo last November, Lowry will be an unrestricted free agent at season’s end, and Gay has a player option for 2014-15.
From the report:
Gay, meanwhile, rates as one of the league’s more fascinating cases after Toronto’s previous regime gambled on the notion that the former Memphis Grizzlies max signee could be a co-cornerstone with Valanciunas. How tradable, really, is Gay when he’s making nearly $18 million this season? The sense out there is that the Raps, who only just got him in January, are determined to find out.
Rival teams are still formulating their projections on what Gay will do at season’s end, when he has the option to become a free agent or play out the final season of his last Memphis contract at a heady $19.3 million. You hesitate to simply assume that Gay, even at his relatively young age, will opt for free agency, because the likelihood is that the annual salary in his next deal won’t be nearly that high.
The Raptors fell to 1-1 after a loss to the Atlanta Hawks on Friday night. They finished 34-48 last season, tied for ninth place in the Eastern Conference, and haven’t made the playoffs since 2007-08.
It's not the ideal trade but Rudy only has 1 year left on that huge deal & is a better player today than Pau is.. Same goes for Lowry/Nash.. We can't have 2 of our top 3 players be injury prone old guys..Chillbongo wrote:No Rudy please. Gets paid like a superstar and doesn't perform like one. Doesn't stay healthy, and although he's athletic, there's younger 3's we can focus on (Xavier).
Of course, if we could turn Nash into Rudy that's one thing. But they're going to want talent back, and at this point I'd rather have the combo of Hill, Farmar, Henry, & Johnson than Rudy Gay.
2. This will be Luol Deng's last season in Chicago.
Only a championship for the Bulls this season can potentially lead to a management rethink that invalidates this one. Otherwise? There are just too many raw feelings at hand after Chicago refused to seriously negotiate with Deng on an extension this past offseason despite his standing as one of Tom Thibodeau's all-time favorites. Deng will be a free agent in July and rest assured, at 28, he's going to attract significant interest. We're talking about a pro's pro, so you won't see any dismay seep into his game, but the overwhelming likelihood is that Deng and the Bulls -- after years and years of trade speculation that never begat an actual trade -- will finally be going their separate ways in July. Veteran Bulls watchers don't see any way that the organization plans to pay Deng as well as the blossoming Jimmy Butler.