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Postby last stand on Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:52 pm

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last stand wrote:yes, lets eat up our cap for jeff green so we can rely on a core of kobe and green to win us a title


Actually, if by any chance the Lakers acquire Green, that core would actually be Embiid/Green/Kobe if everything goes as planned this season.... and that core could do damage in the WC.


it couldn't embiid isn't going to be a championship #1 or #2 for at least 2 years. green is a championship #4 at best and kobe is a championship #2 at this point

that team is a 1st round exit at its absolute best, a lottery team at worst
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Postby Slurpee22 on Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:56 pm

last stand wrote:it couldn't embiid isn't going to be a championship #1 or #2 for at least 2 years. green is a championship #4 at best and kobe is a championship #2 at this point

that team is a 1st round exit at its absolute best, a lottery team at worst


I was speaking in hypothetical terms, of course I don't think Green is coming to the Lakers, especially if the Celtics are gonna throw Gerald Wallace's crap contract on other teams...

those multiple picks we gave up in the Nash trade is hurting us from making any trades, and we are stuck with a roster that will play inconsistent basketball all season long.
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Postby LakersN4 on Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:51 pm

Larry Sanders on the block for picks.. forget the pipe dream of getting the #1 pick for Embiid.. Right there's our athletic defensive anchor.. We should be trying to ship out Kaman/Meeks/Blake, even Hill if that's what it takes to get the picks the Bucks want. He's already on a big contract but it's not a max deal so we'd still have room to sign Love in 2015, & there aren't many bigs that would compliment Love better than Sanders.
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Postby therealdeal on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:16 pm

Yeah no thanks to Green. No thanks to Gordon.

I'll take Sanders though.
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Postby trodgers on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:50 pm

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trodgers wrote:Talking about MDA misusing players is only one side of it. He also maximizes some player. I think he's done good things for Marshall, Kelly, and Young, for instance.


Young was always a good offensive player, Kelly finally got minutes and Marshall is having the opportunity of a life-time thanks to the injuries to Blake/Nash/Farmar ... once they do return.... someone's production is gonna fall off.

No one else drafted Kelly. Marshall was in the NBDL. Young has never been better in the midrange game - his game is qualitatively different this season.
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Malcolm Thomas Waived By Spurs

Postby Kobe8Fan on Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:09 pm

Malcolm Thomas Waived By Spurs

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Malcolm Thomas has been waived by the San Antonio Spurs.

Thomas was originally signed by the Spurs on Dec. 3 and appeared in one game with the team, posting 2 points, 9 rebounds and 2 blocks in 14 minutes vs. Milwaukee on Jan. 19.

Thomas appeared in 10 games with the Spurs D-League affiliate Austin Toros, averaging 15.2 points, 9.4 rebounds and 2.40 blocks.


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Postby khmrP on Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:22 pm

LakersN4 wrote:Larry Sanders on the block for picks.. forget the pipe dream of getting the #1 pick for Embiid.. Right there's our athletic defensive anchor.. We should be trying to ship out Kaman/Meeks/Blake, even Hill if that's what it takes to get the picks the Bucks want. He's already on a big contract but it's not a max deal so we'd still have room to sign Love in 2015, & there aren't many bigs that would compliment Love better than Sanders.


have you seen his stats or his play this year to happily give up a 1st rd pick for him? Jordan Hill is outperforming him of the BENCH and please dont tell me STATS dont always tell the whole story...which can be true to a certain extent but when you're avg. 6/6, there's not much of an excuse there.
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Postby Ariza3 on Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:25 pm

“@WojYahooNBA: Free agent forward Shawne Williams has agreed to a deal with the Los Angeles Defenders of the D-League, sources tell Yahoo Sports.”


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Postby SK8 on Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:51 pm

While with the Lakers, Shawne Williams earned $475,334 per @EricPincus. With the D-Fenders, it ranges from around $13K to $25K.


13-25k :man8: i liked Shawne a lot, e remember i was super pissed when we waived him.
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Postby LakersN4 on Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:04 pm

khmrP wrote:
LakersN4 wrote:Larry Sanders on the block for picks.. forget the pipe dream of getting the #1 pick for Embiid.. Right there's our athletic defensive anchor.. We should be trying to ship out Kaman/Meeks/Blake, even Hill if that's what it takes to get the picks the Bucks want. He's already on a big contract but it's not a max deal so we'd still have room to sign Love in 2015, & there aren't many bigs that would compliment Love better than Sanders.


have you seen his stats or his play this year to happily give up a 1st rd pick for him? Jordan Hill is outperforming him of the BENCH and please dont tell me STATS dont always tell the whole story...which can be true to a certain extent but when you're avg. 6/6, there's not much of an excuse there.

They really don't always tell the whole story.. He started the season returning from injury, his minutes are down from last season, & they have decided to make Henson the defensive anchor now (averaging 2.23 BPG).. On a team like ours where noone else plays any defense in the paint, Sanders' block numbers should jump right back up near the 2.83 he averaged last season. Sanders is a much better player than he has looked like so far this season & if we can steal him while his value is low, we should jump all over it.
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Postby Vlade_12 on Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:04 pm

Mych Kabongo. What is up with this guy? I thought he could be another Rondo. Great length, super quick , nice handle. He would be great in the system. Still very young, left after sophomore. Seems like he fell off the face of the earth. Would be a nice risk to invite to Defenders


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Postby Doc Brown on Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:14 am

Whoever deals for (Emeka) Okafor before the trade deadline will receive an insurance payout of $5.7 million – roughly $141,000 per game.
For the Suns, the appeal of Okafor’s financially friendly deal – armed with approximately $5 million in remaining salary-cap space – has general manager Ryan McDonough on the search to fortify his roster for a playoff run. Despite the loss of point guard Eric Bledsoe to knee surgery, the Suns – 25-18 and holding the seventh seed in the Western Conference playoff chase – are determined to reach the postseason.
The Suns have expressed a willingness to absorb a veteran player on a short-term deal who wouldn’t compromise the organization’s ample salary-cap space for the future, league sources said. As rival teams explore ways to shed payroll and avoid luxury-tax payments, the Suns could have a multitude of deal possibilities to consider over the next few weeks.
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Postby Battle Tested20 on Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:52 pm

Yeah Pau in his recent 20-10 streak has never played better since we last won an NBA championship. That is saying a lot because its been 2-3 years of terrible play by him.

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Postby Slurpee22 on Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:50 am

Battle Tested20 wrote:Yeah Pau in his recent 20-10 streak has never played better since we last won an NBA championship. That is saying a lot because its been 2-3 years of terrible play by him.

Come on other NBA teams..... lets make a deal


I think a lot of teams are interested in Pau... and especially now with him becoming a 20-10 guy every night but the problem is the Lakers want a 1st round pick.... maybe a 3-way trade is the only way we can trade Pau by the trade deadline.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby khmrP on Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:56 am

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khmrP wrote:
LakersN4 wrote:Larry Sanders on the block for picks.. forget the pipe dream of getting the #1 pick for Embiid.. Right there's our athletic defensive anchor.. We should be trying to ship out Kaman/Meeks/Blake, even Hill if that's what it takes to get the picks the Bucks want. He's already on a big contract but it's not a max deal so we'd still have room to sign Love in 2015, & there aren't many bigs that would compliment Love better than Sanders.


have you seen his stats or his play this year to happily give up a 1st rd pick for him? Jordan Hill is outperforming him of the BENCH and please dont tell me STATS dont always tell the whole story...which can be true to a certain extent but when you're avg. 6/6, there's not much of an excuse there.

They really don't always tell the whole story.. He started the season returning from injury, his minutes are down from last season, & they have decided to make Henson the defensive anchor now (averaging 2.23 BPG).. On a team like ours where noone else plays any defense in the paint, Sanders' block numbers should jump right back up near the 2.83 he averaged last season. Sanders is a much better player than he has looked like so far this season & if we can steal him while his value is low, we should jump all over it.


you fail to mention his bad attitude and fighting with teammates (physically fighting) in the locker room. I'm not giving up a top 5 pick for this guy, especially not with his salary. As the saying goes you are what you record says you are and in Sanders case he is what his stats show, just an overrated pogo stick who's got no offensive game to speak off just a basically a poor mans D. Jordan who likes to beat up his teammates occasionally and maybe a few on the streets too as he's also has troubles off the court.
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Postby SK8 on Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:59 am

Lakers Might Pursue Eric Bledsoe In Restricted Free Agency

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The Los Angeles Lakers might pursue Eric Bledsoe in restricted free agency this offseason.

The Lakers would presumably have to overpay Bledsoe in order for the Phoenix Suns not to match.

Bledsoe was traded by the Los Angeles Clippers to the Suns in the offseason.

Via Chris Broussard/ESPN


this is good and not so good news, good news is that we are already looking out there what is available, but bad news is that we will have to overpay Bledsoe, that's only chance we can get him, because Suns will match any offer.
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Postby lukewaltonsdad on Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:26 am

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Postby lukewaltonsdad on Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:27 am

Oh, Broussard and his 'sources.' On topic, what is Bledsoe's max that he can get offered? I'm already assuming Love is coming here in 2015 and that ties up the 'second max' since Kobe has the first...and would Bledsoe, Kobe, Love work while still building a decent roster with this new CBA. I don't think so. Although, I haven't crunched the numbers.

IMO, as I suggested in another thread, I'd roll with Marshall/Farmar next season because they're cheap & productive...I'd draft a SF or a Center and try to upgrade this roster through free agency while maintaining flexibility to acquire Love in 2015.
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Postby therealdeal on Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:30 am

If I'm overpaying for a Restricted Free Agent I want it to be either Bledsoe or Monroe, probably Monroe because size matters in the NBA and in your momma's bed.

Bledsoe's max contract I believe would start at 13.7 million and the next season move to 14.1 million.

That'd mean 14.1 million, 23.5 million, and let's say 4 million for the pick in 2015 totaling 41.6 million dollars. That'd leave us roughly 16-17 million to get Love... I'm not sure that's max money for him, I'd have to check.
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Re: Roster Improvements: addition by subtractions

Postby SK8 on Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:19 pm

Surprise surprise :man12:

Kyrie Irving Privately Telling People He Wants Out Of Cleveland


The Cleveland Cavaliers were hoping to be a playoff contender this season around Kyrie Irving, but have been terribly disappointing. The Cavaliers have missed on several draft picks and Chris Grant's job as general manager is in danger.

"Kyrie Irving has been telling people privately he wants out," wrote Chad Ford.

Irving becomes eligible for a contract extension this offseason and will presumably receive a max offer from the Cavaliers. Irving could become a restricted free agent in the 2015 offseason meaning he could not leave outright until 2016.

"The Cavs are working to try to create a winning situation and culture to make him happy," wrote Ford. "Didn't report it to say he's gone. Just trying to show why the Cavs are trying hard to right the ship right now."

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Postby LakersN4 on Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:20 pm

Uncle_Drew beat me to it thanks to the forum messing up.. But yeah.. Time to revisit Pau to Cleveland ;)
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Postby therealdeal on Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:22 pm

If he doesn't accept a max contract... it doesn't matter.

Some team will offer him a big contract as a Restricted Free Agent and then the Cavs will match and then he'll be stuck there anyway.

He doesn't have a lot of leverage.
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Postby LakersN4 on Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:27 pm

Doesn't matter if another team makes him an offer in 2015, he has to sign it for the Cavs to have the ability to match.. Meaning he can become unrestricted & walk in 2016.
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Postby Slurpee22 on Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:27 pm

I would love to get Irving, but it's almost Impossible... I think the Cavs are probably gonna bring in multiple good players by the trade deadline to entice Irving....

they have the pieces to make trades... the Lakers don't.
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Postby therealdeal on Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:40 pm

LakersN4 wrote:Doesn't matter if another team makes him an offer in 2015, he has to sign it for the Cavs to have the ability to match.. Meaning he can become unrestricted & walk in 2016.

You're telling me a young man with shaky health is going to forgo 2 chances at 4 years of guaranteed money just to escape Cleveland? I don't buy it.
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