A Series of Proposals To Dissect

Bump....

Come on now....there's some great ideas in this thread.

I don't think Mitch is capable of performing a 3-way deal

just try to get sasha out of here he's nothing

Maybe Dorrel Wright or even Gerald Green

Or we can give another year with the line up of

Kobe
Lamar
Luke
Kwame/trade
Farmar
Bynum
Mihm
Vlad/trade
Mo
Cook/trade
Sasha/trade
MLE

and Hope that they work on defense and improve.

AVH wrote:Im not going to discuss the merits of these ideas. But, I want to summarize a few of them that I have been reading and get your ideas on them for discussion hereafter. They are very generous to other teams as well as helping us become a better more traditionally well rounded team.

All Im going to do is list Whos IN, Whos OUT and the new lineup. You can see by the players, who the trade partner is. These are fair trades. Some more realistic than others, but it all depends on the Busses.

Option 1
Whos IN: Pau Gasol, Magloire MLE, PG at 19,
Whos OUT: Bynum, Kwame, Draft pick or Farmar, Cook

Magloire, Mihm
Gasol, Turiaf
Odom, Walton, Vlad
Kobe, Evans
Farmar or Draft Pick, Sasha

Perhaps you can trade Vlad for Luke Ridnour OR Watson as well here. But I didnt add that.

Seems reasonable. Might be our best option if we want to keep Lamar.

AVH wrote:Option 2 (Interesting that I didnt think about this one before)
Whos IN: Kevin Garnett, Mike James, Mark Blount, Magloire MLE
Whos OUT: Odom, Bynum, Kwame, Farmar, 19

Magloire, Blount, Mihm
KG, Turiaf
Walton, Vlad
Kobe, Evans
Mike James, Sasha

Perhaps you might be able to swap Vlad for Marko Jaric as well

I would do do it. I just don't think KG will ever get traded here.

AVH wrote:Option 3:
Whos IN: Jason Kidd, Magloire MLE
Whos OUT: Bynum, Kwame, Vlad, 19

Magloire, Mihm
Odom, Turiaf
Walton, Evans
Kobe, Sasha
Kidd, Farmar

No. Trading an almost 20 year old Bynum for a 33 year old PG is just stupid and insane.

AVH wrote:Option 4:
Whos IN: Jermaine Oneal, Jamaal Tinsley, Danny Granger, Magloire MLE
Whos OUT: Odom, Bynum, Kwame, Farmar, 19

Magloire, Mihm
Jermaine Oneal, Turiaf, Vlad
Danny Granger, Walton
Kobe, Evans
Jamaal Tinsley, Sasha

I love it, but would Indy? I don't think so. In any Indiana deal, the only way they get Bynum, LO, and Farmar is if they give up Granger with it. Maybe if we take on Troy Murphy, would they do it?

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I'm not going to comment on the other ones, because after a comment like Kobe just said, we're not gonna go with basically the same roster for a cap space plan.

spitty wrote:Or we can give another year with the line up of

Kobe
Lamar
Luke
Kwame/trade
Farmar
Bynum
Mihm
Vlad/trade
Mo
Cook/trade
Sasha/trade
MLE

and Hope that they work on defense and improve.

No thanks

Option 5. I want to keep the core intact and upgrade at the 2 weaker positions. Just like Phil said 2 players away from contention.

I'm actually a little higher on the whole idea of having Lamar as a Laker then most are. He's strong on the boards, when healthy puts up the points and though he's frustrating he's pretty good when you take the facilitating out of his hands.

my bad - wrong thread... deleted

LakersTyler wrote:

AVH wrote:Im not going to discuss the merits of these ideas. But, I want to summarize a few of them that I have been reading and get your ideas on them for discussion hereafter. They are very generous to other teams as well as helping us become a better more traditionally well rounded team.

All Im going to do is list Whos IN, Whos OUT and the new lineup. You can see by the players, who the trade partner is. These are fair trades. Some more realistic than others, but it all depends on the Busses.

Option 1
Whos IN: Pau Gasol, Magloire MLE, PG at 19,
Whos OUT: Bynum, Kwame, Draft pick or Farmar, Cook

Magloire, Mihm
Gasol, Turiaf
Odom, Walton, Vlad
Kobe, Evans
Farmar or Draft Pick, Sasha

Perhaps you can trade Vlad for Luke Ridnour OR Watson as well here. But I didnt add that.

Seems reasonable. Might be our best option if we want to keep Lamar.

AVH wrote:Option 2 (Interesting that I didnt think about this one before)
Whos IN: Kevin Garnett, Mike James, Mark Blount, Magloire MLE
Whos OUT: Odom, Bynum, Kwame, Farmar, 19

Magloire, Blount, Mihm
KG, Turiaf
Walton, Vlad
Kobe, Evans
Mike James, Sasha

Perhaps you might be able to swap Vlad for Marko Jaric as well

I would do do it. I just don't think KG will ever get traded here.

AVH wrote:Option 3:
Whos IN: Jason Kidd, Magloire MLE
Whos OUT: Bynum, Kwame, Vlad, 19

Magloire, Mihm
Odom, Turiaf
Walton, Evans
Kobe, Sasha
Kidd, Farmar

No. Trading an almost 20 year old Bynum for a 33 year old PG is just stupid and insane.

AVH wrote:Option 4:
Whos IN: Jermaine Oneal, Jamaal Tinsley, Danny Granger, Magloire MLE
Whos OUT: Odom, Bynum, Kwame, Farmar, 19

Magloire, Mihm
Jermaine Oneal, Turiaf, Vlad
Danny Granger, Walton
Kobe, Evans
Jamaal Tinsley, Sasha

I love it, but would Indy? I don't think so. In any Indiana deal, the only way they get Bynum, LO, and Farmar is if they give up Granger with it. Maybe if we take on Troy Murphy, would they do it?

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I'm not going to comment on the other ones, because after a comment like Kobe just said, we're not gonna go with basically the same roster for a cap space plan.

Im not really sure which one is my favorite option to be honest with you.

I really like 1,2 and 4.

IF i had to choose, i probably choose 2, just because of Kobe and KG together with a nice supporting cast.

In regards to #4 with Indiana.

You mention about the only way them getting Bynum is us getting Granger.

Well, they get Bynum and a whole lot more. They get every great asset we have man.

Bynum, Odom, Kwame expring, Farmar AND the #19. AND they unload Tinsley on us. IF they want ot unload Murphy instead, Id have no problem with that. But, it can't be both Tinsley and Murphy because we just don't have the outgoing salary to match unless we throw in Vlad, which might be an option, but I highly doubt it.

Anyways, I alreayd posted an even better alternative for hte Pacers trade below the original post that includes a 3 way with Boston.

Its such an awesome trade that if Mitch could see it, I could almost assure you it gets done!