Shannon Brown Discussion

Shannon Brown Discussion

Postby earvinfr on Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:58 am

Right now he's giving us his best Sasha's impersonation. He doesn't create anything, he doesn't pass much, shoots a lot and miss most of them. At least Sasha had something above him, he could handle the ball.

Ok, he's cheaper.

But Shannon without shooting percentage seems useless for this team as was Sasha. At least Sasha was not playing, which was a good thing for the team.

Look at Blake, he's not having great numbers, but he never takes bad shoots and most of the time try to find the extra pass for someone in better position.

What allows Shannon to take so many shoots ? With Drew back he should never shoot more than our top 4 players.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby Dr. Octagon on Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:34 am

What a drunken thread.

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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby earvinfr on Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:58 am

Dr. Octagon wrote:What a drunken thread.

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If you allow this to be a drunken thread, I'll add that I'd prefer having Matt and Luke playing the 2, 3 position instead of Shannon and Matt.

Let's be serious Shannon takes too many bad shots. Lot's of them are contested and when they fall nobody complains, but right now it's now working and we all have to admit those are bad shots.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby Sirron on Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:41 am

figures France would like Luke and Sasha. :man9:
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby KB24 on Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:47 am

I simply disagree on pretty much all of those...

first and foremost the guy is EFFICIENT so far. He is shooting very solid numbers, to compare him with Sasha is pretty off. Second thing is Shannon comes from the bench to give us a spark and he tries to do just that. Sasha can handle the ball? I don't tink so.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby earvinfr on Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:39 am

KB24 wrote:I simply disagree on pretty much all of those...

first and foremost the guy is EFFICIENT so far. He is shooting very solid numbers, to compare him with Sasha is pretty off. Second thing is Shannon comes from the bench to give us a spark and he tries to do just that. Sasha can handle the ball? I don't tink so.

Look at his last 5 games, he's not that efficient anymore. And since he's been pretty successfull from behind the arc at the beggining of the season, he's just standing behind the 3pt line most of the time.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby MC on Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:04 am

well, who said the move was about talent............. it was more about the cap hit than anything else. Brown does enough for this team when you ratio out his contract compared to Sasha's, it's about bang for your buck when you are over the cap like the Lakers are right now.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby earvinfr on Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:12 am

MC wrote:well, who said the move was about talent............. it was more about the cap hit than anything else. Brown does enough for this team when you ratio out his contract compared to Sasha's, it's about bang for your buck when you are over the cap like the Lakers are right now.

No complain about the move, I simply don't like the way Shannon has been playing recently. And watching him play more carefully doesn't makes me happy. Missing shot is one thing, taking bad shot is another one. And Shannon takes many bad shots, plus he's not helping moving the ball well.

Sasha was useless if he couldn't make his shots and so is Shannon. That's not the same for Matt or Steve as they provide something else.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby vtandon on Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:38 am

earvinfr wrote:
MC wrote:well, who said the move was about talent............. it was more about the cap hit than anything else. Brown does enough for this team when you ratio out his contract compared to Sasha's, it's about bang for your buck when you are over the cap like the Lakers are right now.

No complain about the move, I simply don't like the way Shannon has been playing recently. And watching him play more carefully doesn't makes me happy. Missing shot is one thing, taking bad shot is another one. And Shannon takes many bad shots, plus he's not helping moving the ball well.

Sasha was useless if he couldn't make his shots and so is Shannon. That's not the same for Matt or Steve as they provide something else.


I'm sorry, but off the bench he's the best backcourt defender on this team. When he's on the floor, he takes on the likes of quick PGs and SGs. He's been on/off for a little while now but his value shouldn't be underestimated (particularly considering the size of his contract and chemistry with the team). We couldn't have expected him to be hot all thru the season anyways.

When it comes to Sasha, he was a liability on the court just like Luke is. Sure Shannon's chucking thru a cold stream... but sasha, seriously?!?!
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby cthroatgtr on Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:09 am

First thing is Sasha never made shots in the games. One year he did...wait that was a contract year wasn't it? Shannon can also take it to the hole and do something where Sasha never could. Other than 07-08 Sasha shot around or under .400. If you look at his NJ numbers since the trade he is averaging around 25 minutes a game and 9.7 points, but he is shooting .400 from the field. Shannon on the other hand is averaging 9.8 in 18.8 minutes and shooting .449.

Shannon's recent troubles started when the team got away from their offense so Shannon was launching shots under duress. Now the team is starting to go back inside and its opening the perimeter again. Also Shannon on occasion does drive and make shots and we know Sasha never could. I expect Shannon and all the bench to start improving again with Lamar playing with that unit and with the team adjusting to Bynum.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby hollywood swinger on Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:13 am

someone obviously has forgotten how much sasha sucked. :man10:
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby ybtherockstar on Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:21 am

Shannon is having a career year this year and has been a major key in the lakers wins this year. He comes of the bench and gives us what we need to get going. Sasha was sucking bad and im glad hes gone.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby therealdeal on Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:45 am

Actually Shannon's only truly bad games came against Miami and San Antonio where everyone played poorly. In Milwaukee he shot 50% from the field. He was only a shot away from shooting 60% in New Orleans and 50% against Philly. Not to mention he had 11 freaking rebounds against San Antonio to boot.

His shot hasn't been falling as much very recently, but as the team picks it up so will he.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby earvinfr on Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:54 am

I only hope I'm wrong on this one and I'll be the first to admit it. But for now I mantain that without his shots falling he's not more valuable than Sasha
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby therealdeal on Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:02 am

^ How? He's worth more simply because he's being paid less to do the more for the team.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby ElginTheGreat on Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:50 am

therealdeal wrote:^ How? He's worth more simply because he's being paid less to do the more for the team.


Co-sign. I've yet to see one real stat where Shannon wasn't a step up. As another poster said, Sasha really only had one or two good seasons. I liked the Machine, but Shannon is a step up in pretty much every way.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby Barnstable on Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:22 pm

Shannon's having a career year where he's improved darn near every category of his game. now it's time to complain when he's been slightly less efficient over the last 5 games? :man3:

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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby Lakerjones on Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:38 pm

Yes he is.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby Kobe3-Peat on Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:10 pm

If sasha was any better he still be here wouldn't he?
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby The Rock on Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:36 pm

Shannon has been pretty bad recently. Last 30 days, shooting 40% from the field, last 14 days, 37%, last week 26%.

His 3 point shooting has been solid though but his numbers are dipping.

His road and home play is like night and day. Rock solid at home but very unreliable on the road...which is where Matt and Fisher pick up the slack they've been producing on the road.

Sasha is doing slightly better in New Jersey but thats not saying much.

With that said...Shannon Brown will never be as good as the 2007/2008 version of Sasha. I know it was his contract year but still Sasha was the perfect backup to Kobe back then.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby John3:16 on Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:43 pm

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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby jonnyshevanel on Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:47 pm

This has to be a joke.
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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby chingy248 on Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:56 pm

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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby Furious Laker on Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:07 pm

Sirron wrote:figures France would like Luke and Sasha. :man9:

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Re: Shannon is not better than Sasha

Postby LOAllStar2011 on Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:29 pm

The Rock wrote:Shannon Brown will never be as good as the 2007/2008 version of Sasha.


2010/2011 Brown > 2007/2008 Sasha
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