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Postby kenzo on Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:14 pm

Garbage.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby khmrP on Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:44 pm

isn't OP the same guy who posted the thread bout Bynum being better than Howard? :man10:
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:51 pm

He's gone from good, to bad, to worse here in the last 3 games. (Clips, Dallas, Heat).

Hopefully this roller coaster isn't just one big hill and we will see a climb again in his play.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby revgen on Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:54 pm

Darius' big problem is that he only knows how to pass on fast breaks and drive and kicks.

He doesn't have a clue how to work with post-up bigs or uber-talented perimeter scorers.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby khmrP on Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:56 pm

revgen wrote:Darius' big problem is that he only knows how to pass on fast breaks and drive and kicks.

He doesn't have a clue how to work with post-up bigs or uber-talented perimeter scorers.


I dont see him drive into the paint much either, is that because nobody setting screens for him?
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby trodgers on Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:59 pm

I think he has solid potential, but he needs a great deal of seasoning. And probably not at the NBA level. I don't mind seeing him play and get the experience while Blake is out, but I hope people are seeing just how much Blake meant to this team this year.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby c.Lin on Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:06 pm

Morris is about as bad of a Laker PG as I've seen in quite some time. He has absolutely no idea what he is doing out there. The fact that he is getting any playing time whatsoever shows how much we are really hurting at the PG position. We need Blake back ASAP.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby revgen on Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:08 pm

khmrP wrote:
revgen wrote:Darius' big problem is that he only knows how to pass on fast breaks and drive and kicks.

He doesn't have a clue how to work with post-up bigs or uber-talented perimeter scorers.


I dont see him drive into the paint much either, is that because nobody setting screens for him?


Partially that. Partially because we have very few shooters to space the floor.

In any case, Morris has a lot to learn. Post-up bigs like Drew or Pau are practically extinct so he never played with any in HS or college. He never played with a Kobe Bryant type either. He needs to figure out how to work with his teammates, and with a shortened season and no practice time, he needs to figure it out quick if he wants to be effective. And no, sending him to the d-league is not an option. No post-up bigs there either. He has to learn on the court with the bigs to get the experience.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:12 pm

Again in this game he couldn't get any separation from his man nor could he "turn the corner" and get into the lane. His defense is pretty decent though....

At the end of the day we all need to realize that he isn't that good and the only reason he's on our roster is that we have nobody that is even "decent" at his position....
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby c.Lin on Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:19 pm

I would argue that he is terrible on defense. He bites way too much, gets fooled too easily by hesitation dribbles and such, and gets killed in the pick and roll.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby kray28 on Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:19 pm

Watching Morris play was frakkin torture. He doesn't know when to pass, when to shoot, or how to pass or how to shoot. And today his defense was garbage. Norris Cole took his butt to school.

Kid belongs in the D-League.

Comparing him to our last few PG draftees. I'd say Farmar was better (as a rookie), and I'd say Critt was better as a rookie too.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:23 pm

Norris Cole - 4pts on 2-7 shooting. He hit a jumper on Morris with Morris in his face and contesting the shot and the layup he scored was on a pick and roll where Bynum didn't show out and Norris drove to the hoop where Bynum went straight up so he didn't foul.

I guess Derek Fisher took Chalmers to school as well.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby kray28 on Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:36 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Norris Cole - 4pts on 2-7 shooting. He hit a jumper on Morris with Morris in his face and contesting the shot and the layup he scored was on a pick and roll where Bynum didn't show out and Norris drove to the hoop where Bynum went straight up so he didn't foul.

I guess Derek Fisher took Chalmers to school as well.


Chalmers took Morris to school too. He got burned enough times that I lost track of who was burning him.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby John3:16 on Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:37 pm

kray28 wrote:Watching Morris play was frakkin torture. He doesn't know when to pass, when to shoot, or how to pass or how to shoot.

Kid belongs in the D-League.


co-sign.

Start him? :man10: yeah, if we want to end up in the lottery.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:46 pm

The Lakers organization needs to improve its scouting . draft choices have been so-so these latest years minus M.Gasol
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:37 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:The Lakers organization needs to improve its scouting . draft choices have been so-so these latest years minus M.Gasol



Apparently they feel Mitch should handle it all on his own these days. Fired everyone else. We'll see how he does.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby Doberman on Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:47 pm

khmrP wrote:isn't OP the same guy who posted the thread bout Bynum being better than Howard? :man10:


Bynum is better. And Morris should start over Fisher. He'd play better with the starters.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby earvinfr on Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:00 pm

I think sometimes when the coach don't give playing time to someone, we need to admit that's because the player is not ready. Coach sees what players can do during practice and if Brown didn't play him earlier it was because what he saw didn't convince him to give him minutes. As fans we like do see new faces on our team and see how they contribute, but coaches knows better than we do how good are some players.

Fish don't start because he's the best option, but because he's not the worst bad option and we have several of them.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby John3:16 on Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:43 pm

Doberman wrote:Bynum is better. And Morris should start over Fisher. He'd play better with the starters.


We're all wrong at times. No shame in it. Just admit it when you are and learn from it.

Bynum is playing really well, but he's not better then Howard. And Morris is a scrub. He shouldn't even be playing, let alone starting. You're a quality poster. Don't cheapen your basketball knowledge by holding onto ridiculous thoughts.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby khmrP on Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:46 pm

Doberman wrote:
khmrP wrote:isn't OP the same guy who posted the thread bout Bynum being better than Howard? :man10:


Bynum is better. And Morris should start over Fisher. He'd play better with the starters.


the only thing Drew does better or did better than Howard is hitting FT's but that has changed as well with his pultry 52% FT shooting, shameful considering he actual has good form compared to Howard :disagree:
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:39 am

Dwight is better but unless he transforms himself into a PG and a dynamic scorer off the bench , he won't resolve our problems , when people will get that ?
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby thkthebest on Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:07 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:Dwight is better but unless he transforms himself into a PG and a dynamic scorer off the bench , he won't resolve our problems , when people will get that ?

All they said was that Dwight is better, not that we should trade for him. There are also more problems than just some spark off the bench or some PG. As of right now, the Lakers have a lot of holes, and Dwight fixes some of that.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:28 am

thkthebest wrote:
wcsoldier81 wrote:Dwight is better but unless he transforms himself into a PG and a dynamic scorer off the bench , he won't resolve our problems , when people will get that ?

All they said was that Dwight is better, not that we should trade for him. There are also more problems than just some spark off the bench or some PG. As of right now, the Lakers have a lot of holes, and Dwight fixes some of that.


The PG position and a weak bench are the two biggest problems ( well there is the coach but he's here to stay all season long) ... Dwight would vastly improve our pick n roll D because he can hedge it and recover way quicker than Drew but that's about it
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby borri on Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:30 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:Dwight is better but unless he transforms himself into a PG and a dynamic scorer off the bench , he won't resolve our problems , when people will get that ?


Well....simplify this. D12 > Drew. If we can get D12 for Drew, straight up...why the hell not. Makes perfect sense to me. it's like me offering you $1.50 in exchange for your $1.00.......
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby trodgers on Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:07 am

LA has done pretty well in terms of scouting and signing players. 82games has an article on it. I don't have any problems with Morris or Goudelock. Morris was a second rounder, remember.
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