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Postby abeer3 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:15 am

well, put that way, sure. no one should expect much from second rounders. but that includes management. one injury has put this guy on the floor for 15+ minutes a game. 15 minutes in which the lakers are severely compromised (and that's relative to fisher, which is saying something). pg was a problem last year and they didn't address it. morris playing before he's ready is a symptom of the larger disease, which is either ignorance or complacency.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby D.B. Cooper on Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:28 am

abeer3 wrote:well, put that way, sure. no one should expect much from second rounders. but that includes management. one injury has put this guy on the floor for 15+ minutes a game. 15 minutes in which the lakers are severely compromised (and that's relative to fisher, which is saying something). pg was a problem last year and they didn't address it. morris playing before he's ready is a symptom of the larger disease, which is either ignorance or complacency.


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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:36 am

Look what the Spurs did with late 1st round/second round picks this latest decade ... Parker, Ginobili, Scola , Blair ... the only solid player we've drafted is Marc Gasol ...

I think we haven't done a good job at picking and developing young talents while staying in contention ... sure not the easiest task but it could help us now ( and last season)... it's not all about star players ... being able to develop young talent to turn them into your future good role players is important aswell.

Even when they don't draft them , Spurs are able to pick a Gary Neal ...
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby viktorkain on Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:19 am

kray28 wrote:Watching Morris play was frakkin torture. He doesn't know when to pass, when to shoot, or how to pass or how to shoot. And today his defense was garbage. Norris Cole took his butt to school.

Kid belongs in the D-League.

Comparing him to our last few PG draftees. I'd say Farmar was better (as a rookie), and I'd say Critt was better as a rookie too.


It is obvious some of you just are a bit biased against Darius Morris .... He is the best defending PG we have. Thats not saying much but it is true he is faster than Blake or Fisher and a better one on one defender than both. Also I must laugh at your comment Someone else pointed out Norris Coles stats so I wont repeat them. Saying he was taken to school when he was not just reeks of negative bias. Also he Drove to the lane and took his man off the dribble easily the problem was once he got in the lane he didn't know what to do. The second time he tried a floater which was a good attempt it just went in and out. Lets look at things as they are and not as we would like them to be. His first 4 games were decent to good his last three were very bad. As a Side note he took 3 shots then stopped looking for his shot, Most rookies do this if they feel they are off they just dont shoot for fear of the coach benching them or the critics bashing them ..Some Rookies fire off willy nilly and people praise them for their awful shot selection (Damned if you do damned if you dont).. then the overhyped rookies can score 4 points and people will say OMGZ he took the lakers rookie to school and crapped on him all game..uh huh .. I hope he gets his confidence back and plays a better game, he really needs to just drive and drop his floater or go for layups like he did vs utah to build his confidence. He is a fast break up tempo player on a slow as molasses Half court team. Its an odd situation and one I have no clue how to fix. Also rev was right Players like Pau and Gasol are pretty much extinct at the college level.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby magicman32 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:28 am

some people need to relax. the kid is a second round draft pick getting thrown into the fire. There's a reason a lot of teams passed on him.

Just the fact that we have to play him says a lot about the talent level at that position.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby earvinfr on Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:57 pm

Any team in this league can have its PG injured an get production from a sub, any team except the Lakers. We are the weakest team in this league at that position. We should thank Phil and the tri which doesn't need a PG. We're happy when Farmar left, I think many would welcome him right now even if he hasn't much improved.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby trodgers on Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:58 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:Look what the Spurs did with late 1st round/second round picks this latest decade ... Parker, Ginobili, Scola , Blair ... the only solid player we've drafted is Marc Gasol ...

I think we haven't done a good job at picking and developing young talents while staying in contention ... sure not the easiest task but it could help us now ( and last season)... it's not all about star players ... being able to develop young talent to turn them into your future good role players is important aswell.

Even when they don't draft them , Spurs are able to pick a Gary Neal ...

Well, we have traded away talent, or allowed them to leave.

Farmar, Sasha, and Turiaf all came up to be solid roleplayers in our system. They're all gone.

The Spurs set the standard. I don't think it's quite right to say that because we can't live up to that standard we haven't done a good job. It's like saying that Pau hasn't done a good job because he hasn't averaged 30.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:35 pm

kray28 wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:Norris Cole - 4pts on 2-7 shooting. He hit a jumper on Morris with Morris in his face and contesting the shot and the layup he scored was on a pick and roll where Bynum didn't show out and Norris drove to the hoop where Bynum went straight up so he didn't foul.

I guess Derek Fisher took Chalmers to school as well.


Chalmers took Morris to school too. He got burned enough times that I lost track of who was burning him.


Oh you mean the big 2 points Chalmers put up against Morris, all of them schoolings?
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby shaq222 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:20 pm

this man cant be 6 PG in any team....he is so bad......he cant do anything for the team.....he is just garbage, but true garbage
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby Weezy on Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:26 pm

Has this thread turned into a totally different topic than originally intended? Because that's the only reason I can see it being this many pages long and still always toward the top of the page. I like the kid, but he's not ready to start, he's barely ready to play.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby kenzo on Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:01 pm

Experiment failed. Now bench his @ss for good. We're better off with no PG on the floor, than with Morris.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby escobar8 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:04 pm

its sad he is even playing...he is garbage...he wouldnt make any other team...
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby Weezy on Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:07 pm

I think you guys are being a bit harsh on the guy. He's a 2nd round pick, he's a rookie that had pretty much no training camp compared to normal years, he's just been thrown out there with this ... offensive systems if you can call it that. He's not ready to be a consistent NBA PG, but I hardly think he's garbage.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby Doberman on Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:20 pm

He's still better than Fisher who built another massive house of bricks tonight.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby viktorkain on Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:21 pm

Weezy wrote:I think you guys are being a bit harsh on the guy. He's a 2nd round pick, he's a rookie that had pretty much no training camp compared to normal years, he's just been thrown out there with this ... offensive systems if you can call it that. He's not ready to be a consistent NBA PG, but I hardly think he's garbage.


He is not garbage at all, as you stated no training camp hardly any practices lakers fans can be a bit harsh and dramatic at times. This is one of them.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:53 pm

Weezy wrote:I think you guys are being a bit harsh on the guy. He's a 2nd round pick, he's a rookie that had pretty much no training camp compared to normal years, he's just been thrown out there with this ... offensive systems if you can call it that. He's not ready to be a consistent NBA PG, but I hardly think he's garbage.


The way I look at it is in the results on the floor. He's on the floor and the results have been below average at best.

He had a stretch of scoring 5 points..... the problem is that it was immediately preceded by a horrid stretch and followed by another one.

He isn't ready.... that much should be evident to everyone now. I don't see anything in his play that would lead me to think he can play consistently at this level. I hope I'm wrong but he really hasn't shown much to date and he is getting chances that better players on other teams aren't getting.....
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:56 pm

id rather have goudelock playing tbh. at least hes a shooter.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:08 pm

Weezy wrote:I think you guys are being a bit harsh on the guy. He's a 2nd round pick, he's a rookie that had pretty much no training camp compared to normal years, he's just been thrown out there with this ... offensive systems if you can call it that. He's not ready to be a consistent NBA PG, but I hardly think he's garbage.


I think it is a bit harsh and he is definitely not garbage. He seems to play better the more minutes he plays, but right now we can't afford that. He's a year away in development, still raw, needs a good training camp and offensive set to run before we condemn him.

He basically went from big 10 basketball to guarding CP3 when you look at it from a games played point of view. He needs time to learn and work on his game, but we don't have that this year. He did attack the rim tonight 3 times. One make, two missed floaters. Kid needs time.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby trodgers on Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:50 pm

He has made some downright ridiculous plays. And honestly I can't think of many plays that make me think of him in a positive way. He did hit the three and take it to the rim today once. But that's not saying much.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:57 pm

CaCHooKa Man wrote:id rather have goudelock playing tbh. at least hes a shooter.



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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby Lakerjones on Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:26 pm

Unfortunately he's proving he's not ready for prime time. I still don't get the hate though. Just a kid trying to make it, and he's all we've got so he gets the time. The idea that he would ever start was laughable, but to say he's garbage is way too harsh.

It's a shame Blake went down. He was playing well for us and our offense is pretty horrendous without him.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby silversurfer on Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:12 pm

ship his a$$ out
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby John3:16 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:18 pm

I'm thinking Morris should back up CP3 in the All Star game.
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby GoldHammish on Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:51 am

John3:16 wrote:I'm thinking Morris should back up CP3 in the All Star game.

Back up? What do you mean? "Start Darius Morris".
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Re: Start Darius Morris

Postby Doberman on Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:41 am

John3:16 wrote:I'm thinking Morris should back up CP3 in the All Star game.


No, but he should start over Fish. The big picture is that any mistakes Morris makes are due to his inexperience and he's at an age where he's still learning and getting better. Fisher making the same mistakes is due to pure incompetence. But Morris won't get any better by sitting, so you have to endure his bad games if you want him to grow.
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