Follow Club Lakers on TwitterDfish, truth be told. In real games, your locker room attitude i'snt worth a single point, a deuce, three, or a 4 point play.
by Fraud on Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:48 am
by therealdeal on Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:50 am
by therealdeal on Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:13 am
by kray28 on Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:47 am
by therealdeal on Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:49 am
by Helljumper on Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:14 pm
by dwighthowardsdad on Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:22 pm
by therealdeal on Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:57 pm
Helljumper wrote:We could've had Sessions as a back-up PG.
Now we're debating between Blake, Duhon, Fisher, Morris, and Goudelock as our possible back-up PG. I think it would be impossible to pick a combination of 5 point guards in the league worse than that.
by OX1947 on Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:30 pm
by therealdeal on Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:34 pm
by OX1947 on Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:48 pm
therealdeal wrote:^ Blake over Duhon every day of the week easily. You think financially Blake is bad? Duhon gets paid almost as much and he's half as effective. And considering how sub-par Blake is, that should scare you.
by LooN3y on Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:52 pm
by therealdeal on Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:15 pm
OX1947 wrote:therealdeal wrote:^ Blake over Duhon every day of the week easily. You think financially Blake is bad? Duhon gets paid almost as much and he's half as effective. And considering how sub-par Blake is, that should scare you.
0 points is 0 points, no matter how much more talented Blake is then a Duhon. Benches need scorers off the bench, not facilitators.
by kenzo on Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:47 pm
LooN3y wrote:ill be ok with fish as a third string PG or a special type of player (i.e. clutch situations)
anything besides that, no. and i love fish to death, but we need to upgrade our 2nd string PG
by Doc Brown on Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:52 pm
by lakersin4 on Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:17 pm
therealdeal wrote:^ Blake over Duhon every day of the week easily. You think financially Blake is bad? Duhon gets paid almost as much and he's half as effective. And considering how sub-par Blake is, that should scare you.
by The Rock on Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:36 pm
In 2012 the Lakers had a Core Four of Kobe Bryant, Metta World Peace, Pau Gasol, and Andrew Bynum. Here is how the Lakers’ point guards performed defensively with the Core Four:
Points Per Possession Allowed – Lakers Point Guards + Core Four
Derek Fisher – 0.98
Ramon Sessions – 1.05
Steve Blake – 1.10
The Lakers starting four performed much worse with Steve Blake than with Fisher or Sessions.
This is particularly bad news considering Derek Fisher was past his prime and Ramon Sessions is not considered as a defensive stopper.
by OX1947 on Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:53 pm
therealdeal wrote:OX1947 wrote:therealdeal wrote:^ Blake over Duhon every day of the week easily. You think financially Blake is bad? Duhon gets paid almost as much and he's half as effective. And considering how sub-par Blake is, that should scare you.
0 points is 0 points, no matter how much more talented Blake is then a Duhon. Benches need scorers off the bench, not facilitators.
Not from their PGs they don't. They need facilitators with their offense who give other people the ball with which to score. That's what a PG does.
And 0 points is 0 points, but 3 assists is better than 0. Duhon is worse than Blake at being a PG and at scoring the ball, so I don't see any argument for him starting except maybe as a defender, but that's not set either.
by therealdeal on Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:58 pm
OX1947 wrote:
You keep Duhon over Blake because it doesnt make a difference talent wise but contract wise you can kill Duhon's non-guarantee next year.
by Center Court on Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:18 pm
OX1947 wrote:Lakers need to get Blake's contract out. Duhon would be fine covering 10 min a game for Nash and then the other 8 min could go to glock and morris.
Fisher needs to retire and be a coach. He can not play anymore. Lakers have Steve Nash, he is all the "nice" leadership the Lakers need with Kobe's bad cop method.
Strictly from a money vs production stand point, I think Blake has exhausted his stay.
If by some miracle, if they were able to get rid of Blake and Duhon, then the likelihood of signing Barbosa for the vet min would be high. That's what I am hoping for.
by Pig Miller on Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:28 pm
therealdeal wrote:^ 1. Agreed.
2. Agreed.
3. Fisher provides the same thing that Duhon/Morris do combined along with a winning attitude, experience, and as a cheaper player. Who do you want more Fisher or Duhon/Morris?
4. Agreed.
5. Of course someone would take our garbage PGs. We unloaded Luke Walton, we can unload Blake and/or Duhon. Well you might say "we gave up a first with Luke!" and that's true, but we also asked for a decent player in return. If we're giving up crap for free or for someone the other team doesn't really want/need anyway, then why couldn't we use them in a trade? It seems they're just trying to free up room for more qualified players, or at least players that are more financially friendly. I'm talking CDR first and Fisher second. If we gave a team Blake or Duhon for a conditional draft pick, why wouldn't they do that? That's basically free depth that becomes valuable next season as expirings or a guy that's easily bought out.
by therealdeal on Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:44 am
I'd go with Fisher for veteran leadership, clutch ability, and the same basic production on the court (which is almost nothing).by revgen on Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:52 am
Helljumper wrote:We could've had Sessions as a back-up PG.
Now we're debating between Blake, Duhon, Fisher, Morris, and Goudelock as our possible back-up PG. I think it would be impossible to pick a combination of 5 point guards in the league worse than that.
by revgen on Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:14 am
)by Doc Brown on Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:56 am
Leandrinho says accepts earn minimum wage to play in the NBA Lakers
On holiday in Flamengo player trains and shows that also in talks with Nets and Suns. If you do not hit, you can return to Brazil
Leandrinho poses in front of his picture on Helium Mauritius Gymnasium in Gávea (Photo: Paulo Sergio)
On the wall of the Gymnasium Helium Mauritius, the headquarters of Flamengo in Rio de Janeiro, the photo of the wing-guard Leandro Barbosa wearing the shirt of the club has not yet been withdrawn. But that does not mean that the player, who has trained in Crimson-Black while on vacation in Brazil, is back on the team that defended last year during the NBA strike. He follows in negotiations with league franchises and agrees to receive the minimum wage to play in the almighty Los Angeles Lakers.
- The negotiation is still hot. The Nash (Steve, Canadian owner) even sent me a message telling me to go. I said I was just connect to my agents. During the London Olympics, it was even hotter and I got to talk with Kobe (Bryant). Now, for me to go, the Lakers need to dispose of a shipowner. To play there, or a good team, it's worth hitting the minimum wage - Leandrinho said.
Currently, the Lakers account in your squad with four players for the positions of guard and wing-guard. This hampers the recruitment of the Brazilian. Because of this, Arthur's brother Leandro, seeking other options. Phoenix Suns franchise advocated by wing-armardor between 2003 and 2010, and Brooklyn Nets (former New Jersey Nets) have an interest in the athlete.
Voted the best reserves in the season 2006/2007, Barbosa said he was not bothered by the delay in hitting with a new team. Last season, he defended Toronto Raptors and Indiana Pacers and is now seeking new option. Acknowledging that may be being "cooked" by franchises to receive as little as possible, the player admits that, if hit, will receive less than last season. And if you do not hit, his desire is to return to Brazil.
- I do not have a set day to hit. This can even happen with the season already underway (begins on November 1). These negotiations are consuming it. The guys think they'll ask for my money very historic and even gets a little afraid of coming up with a proposed low. As this is a business, do what they can to lower values. And do not think about money today, I think of being champion. Should not be in the NBA, I return to Brazil. It would be important to stay close to family - said Barbosa, who is married to actress Samara Felippo and has a daughter, Alicia, 3 years.
If hit with the Lakers, Leandro Barbosa will play a team full of stars. Besides Nash's friend, with whom he served in the Suns, he will have as companions Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol.
Training at Flamengo While not decide his future in the NBA, Leandrinho maintains form in Flamengo team that defended between September and December last year during a strike in the league. At that time, the wing-guard participated in the campaign Crimson-Black winning the heptacampeonato State, played the first phase of the South American League and the first rounds of the NBB.
- I received a great affection in such a short time at the club. I will never forget and I hope to return one day. Flamengo is a very good house, fun to spend time and train. I know several players here - said the player, glad to see your photo with the shirt on the wall of 28 remains Gym Helium Mauritius.
Leandrinho not said whether there is interest Flamengo in his residence. According to the athlete, the club set up a group to be champion. But for now, his priority is to resolve your situation in the NBA. According to the director of basketball Crimson-Black, Arnaldo Szpiro, there is no possibility of contracting the wing-guard at the time.
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