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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Chillbongo on Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:10 am

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halekulani wrote:the steve blake we all wanted from the start is finally showing

The Steve Blake of the JailBlazers!!

I used to :mad1: when that Steve would light us up. Now I'm like :jam2:
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Lakerjones on Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:48 am

CaCHooKa Man wrote:i guess dantoni wasnt crazy when he kept saying that hes wanted to coach blake


^^ I know! I really thought he was just trying to boost his confidence or something. I was thinking, "has he seen the way Blake has played the last two years?" But damn, I agree with I believe it was JSM who put the question - is Blake the biggest beneficiary of playing under D' Antoni? I have to say yes. The guy is just thriving. He's been outstanding in the backup PG role since returning from injury. Last night? Wow!!! Keep it up Steve.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Finwë on Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:57 am

puffyusaf#2 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Somewhere puffy and I are playing a jazzy tune and feeling smug right now...

:bow:

I don't wanna toot my own horn but ehem! add me to the smug, jazz tune playing group :man10: I've defended Blake for a long time, and never failed to praise him after good games or point out the positives in so-so games...
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:05 am

Finwë wrote:
puffyusaf#2 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Somewhere puffy and I are playing a jazzy tune and feeling smug right now...

:bow:

I don't wanna toot my own horn but ehem! add me to the smug, jazz tune playing group :man10: I've defended Blake for a long time, and never failed to praise him after good games or point out the positives in so-so games...


we got a trio going :jam2:
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby therealdeal on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:11 am

puffyusaf#2 wrote:
Finwë wrote:
puffyusaf#2 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Somewhere puffy and I are playing a jazzy tune and feeling smug right now...

:bow:

I don't wanna toot my own horn but ehem! add me to the smug, jazz tune playing group :man10: I've defended Blake for a long time, and never failed to praise him after good games or point out the positives in so-so games...


we got a trio going :jam2:

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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:21 am

I got dibs on being Hairy :jam2:
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby davriver290 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:31 am

I've always defended this guy. My only complaint was that he doesn't shoot enough.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Tobias Funke on Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:59 pm

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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby XXIV on Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:03 pm

I love that he's actually penetrating the defense which is what killed us back when he was with Portland. With Phil/Brown he would just dribble around the perimeter looking to set up guys with post ups, which just about any player can do.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby TIME on Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:20 pm

Before you guys toot your own horns too loudly please remember that the Mike Brown version of Steve Blake was horribad. The MDA version is awesome. If anyone needed a reason to justify hiring MDA the strongest case is Steve Blake.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Lakerjones on Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:24 pm

TIME wrote:Before you guys toot your own horns too loudly please remember that the Mike Brown version of Steve Blake was horribad. The MDA version is awesome. If anyone needed a reason to justify hiring MDA the strongest case is Steve Blake.


^^ Agreed. If you remember I defended Steve Blake plenty for a long time. But last year I just couldn't take his consistent inconsistency any longer. Basically his play last year became . . . indefensible.

He really has come alive under MDA though. If MDA is staying I would welcome one more year with Blake as backup PG considering his recent play. But let's see if he can hang in there and keep being productive first of course.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Legendary on Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:02 pm

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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby therealdeal on Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:04 pm

Lakerjones wrote:
TIME wrote:Before you guys toot your own horns too loudly please remember that the Mike Brown version of Steve Blake was horribad. The MDA version is awesome. If anyone needed a reason to justify hiring MDA the strongest case is Steve Blake.


^^ Agreed. If you remember I defended Steve Blake plenty for a long time. But last year I just couldn't take his consistent inconsistency any longer. Basically his play last year became . . . indefensible.

He really has come alive under MDA though. If MDA is staying I would welcome one more year with Blake as backup PG considering his recent play. But let's see if he can hang in there and keep being productive first of course.

Here's the thing: I bashed the crap out of him last year. :man10:

But I've also been one that has been pretty damn fair to him when almost everybody had dismissed him. Heck khmrp still hates him for some reason.

And I'm talking more about how puffy and I were basically the only ones (Finwe too) who were in here after games since his return saying "hm... he looks good. He looks different." Even when he was doing well earlier in the season we were the ones responsible for this thread's bumpage.

But I'll be the first to say he sucked the last two years. Most of his hate as a Laker is pretty much warranted. It's just nice to see others catching on about how he's played since his return from injury.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby LTLakerFan on Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:12 pm

Lakerjones wrote:
TIME wrote:Before you guys toot your own horns too loudly please remember that the Mike Brown version of Steve Blake was horribad. The MDA version is awesome. If anyone needed a reason to justify hiring MDA the strongest case is Steve Blake.


^^ Agreed. If you remember I defended Steve Blake plenty for a long time. But last year I just couldn't take his consistent inconsistency any longer. Basically his play last year became . . . indefensible.

He really has come alive under MDA though. If MDA is staying I would welcome one more year with Blake as backup PG considering his recent play. But let's see if he can hang in there and keep being productive first of course.


He plays hard at both ends and a lot of darting around and jumping. Just needs to keep from getting hurt. If it happens well bleep happens and should not mean Steve Black should start getting a bunch of hate again from those thinking these guys are robots and having a high tolerance for their level of pain. Some of the normal type injuries just happen and don't mean a player is necessarily injury prone. Unless your last name is Oden or Bynum.

I know I know..... stepping on a spike strip and the abdominal thing not your usual injuries, but what the hell Shaq missed a lot of time due to a freaking toe and his abs as well. Kobe....out with that ankle.... the puss.

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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:02 pm

TIME wrote:Before you guys toot your own horns too loudly please remember that the Mike Brown version of Steve Blake was horribad. The MDA version is awesome. If anyone needed a reason to justify hiring MDA the strongest case is Steve Blake.


Here is why I'll toot my own horn with one of those oversized cartoon horns that blows people away.

1. I have always contended that Blake was doing the little things that didn't show up on the stat sheets.

2. Under Phil and Mike he was told to play a very certain way which was to basically feed the post and run the offense. Under that he hardly ever was aggressive instead looking to always pass. When he did shoot it was usually out of desperation.

3. I said the way Blake is going to play better is when and if the other guys start moving instead of just watching. I mean lets be real, people were saying Steve Nash sucks as a PG earlier in the season. Steve Nash one of the greatest passing (and shooting) PG's in NBA history sucks.I am not saying Blake is in Nash's league as a PG (offensively) but the fact is Nash looks like his old self because guys are moving (and hitting shots)

4. Last season when guys were killing Blake for getting torched and praising Sessions I went back and started breaking down the games to show how Blake was getting the raw end of the hate. The guy plays solid to great D most of the times and he never forces his game or complains about touches, minutes, shots or anything.

Now, I too complained that he was entirely too passive last year. Between him and Pau I have never seen two players who absolutely refused to shoot like that before. When Coach D came he preached two things for the offense 1) The ball moves it finds energy and 2) players need to move and be in constant motion. Early in the season Nash, Blake and Kobe were all getting turnovers because they would penetrate and guys would stand and watch. No one would move to improve the passing angle (or drop down to the level of the ball like Stu says) instead they just stood and watched. Fans blamed Coach D, then Nash/Blake and still blaiming Kobe (some at least) but when Earl Clark and Twan started racking up points because of simple cuts the guys started to get it. Now, Nash is a God again, Blake is playing like Portland Steve and Kobe is still being hated by illogical people. In any case, Blake will have bad games again but he never takes games off where he isn't bringing the energy, defensive pressure and big-balls Kobe dance effort to the game. That is why I'll toot my horn a little loud and proud.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:03 pm

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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Chillbongo on Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:06 pm

puffyusaf#2 wrote:2. Under Phil and Mike he was told to play a very certain way which was to basically feed the post and run the offense. Under that he hardly ever was aggressive instead looking to always pass. When he did shoot it was usually out of desperation.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby raviator on Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:11 pm

Chillbongo wrote:
denimPortugal wrote:
halekulani wrote:the steve blake we all wanted from the start is finally showing

The Steve Blake of the JailBlazers!!

I used to :mad1: when that Steve would light us up. Now I'm like :jam2:


Hell yeah! I loved his game but would drive me nuts because it seemed like he always went off on the Lakers, especially in Portland when we couldn't win there in like 20 years.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby LTLakerFan on Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:45 pm

Anyone think he can be as productive and positive a role player going forward this season as Sasha at his best was for us off the bench? If he keeps his shooting even reasonably close to where it is now? I think he brings more all around skills than Sasha possessed and can be more valuable.

In terms of what we are seeing from him now, if he reasonably keeps it up, how about compared to what Farmar gave us?
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:48 pm

LTLakerFan wrote:Anyone think he can be as productive and positive a role player going forward this season as Sasha at his best was for us off the bench? If he keeps his shooting even reasonably close to where it is now? I think he brings more all around skills than Sasha possessed and can be more valuable.

In terms of what we are seeing from him now, if he reasonably keeps it up, how about compared to what Farmar gave us?

Just going off the game yesterday, he's closer to what Lamar gave us. He was amazing yesterday.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:20 pm

Blake with the highest +/- of the team at -20

Was 6/11 from the field but 1/5 from 3 and not great D overall though nobody played good D tonight. Expect better next game.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby SpencerHarrison on Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:48 pm

Another thing with Blake is that he doesn't turn the ball over. The Nash/Howard PnR is a turnover waiting to happen. It should be good, it isn't, who knows. But Blake's passing seems more purposeful and effective. Shows up in that stat.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:54 pm

^that is because Nash has better court vision than Blake. I know that may sound weird when it comes to being turnover prone but it really is that simple. When Nash penetrates he passes to where a person "should" be but unfortunately most times our guys aren't moving to the right spots. When Blake penetrates he is looking for guys where they are and usually gets the ball to them there. Blake is use to playing with guys who don't move (mainly cause of everyone watching Kobe play) so he has better timing with guys. Nash is use to guys who understand cuts, pick and rolls and backdoor movement like Twan. Now, put them with Dwight and you see Blake is more suited because Dwight still is very raw when it comes to setting proper screens and knowing when/where to slip the screen. Nash uses the screen to perfection while Blake uses his quickness more. Each are great at getting the ball to a player but they go about it in different fashion. Right now Blake is more effecitve but that has more to do with guys not understanding the "chess game' that Nash plays in my opinion.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:47 am

He's been playing great. He's doing a great job of hitting creating shots through probing the defense, putting guys in the right positions to score, and making shots. He's been a surprise for me this year. Keep it up, Steve.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby KB24 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:51 pm

Pleasant surprise. Not his fan but I have a lot of respect for a (former) scrub to step it up to a level to be an asset.
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