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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby lakersyunowin on Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:47 am

blake looking like he deserves to be, without question, ahead of duhon in the pecking order now. solid, solid stuff recently.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:52 am

KB24 wrote:Puffy you can't beat the law of averages.

they say Blake hasn't performed well during his career. I'm not going to celebrate when a player has performed for a few games, nor am I going to hate anyone for a few bad games.

Blake has been a disappointment in LA overall, he couldn't even outplay Fish. If you think otherwise, then you are not objective. I'll give him credit when he actually plays a good season for a change.


Here is the problem with that.

1. Blake must of performed well during his career because most Lakers fans wanted him since his Portland days. He hasn't played "offensively" well since his days of being in LA I will agree.

2. He wouldn't say he didn't outplay Fish I would say he Fish has earned the right to be a starter. When Blake played under that system he was asked to feed the ball to the bigs which he did. He almost never looked for his shot. Remember, all the fans were complaining about how no one could get the ball to the bigs and get it into the paint. Blake spent his first years here just dumping the ball into the bigs (and Kobe). Look at Twan, people were hating him saying washed up and old and garbage yet he is still playing the exact same way. What is the difference? Others are finding him when he moves without the ball. He makes a shot they get the assist.

3. And most importantly, I am not saying Blake has been great since coming to LA. In fact, I would agree with everyone that it has been a huge disappointment for him here. What I am saying is that the guy is being able to play the way he played in Portland under Coach D. He has been solid all year but that is overlooked because he doesn't put up points first. My thing and point has always been why can't we give the guy credit when it is due? It is just like Odom1year or Malaco (whatever it is) always coming in to the Kobe thread saying something negative no matter what Kobe has done.

I mean if Blake put up 20 points and 10 assist there will be poster who will say: Yea good game by Blake but that won't happen again. Is that objectivity or just plain hate?
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:58 am

well, these "posters" come here, give credit for the 1-3 games he does well, and hope blake can put together consistent games. i, as a laker fan, always root for a player to do well. it's objectivity.

when a player is just playing timid, or not putting the work, fine, i'll dish out the criticism. we do it for dwight, we do it for kobe. everyone.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby therealdeal on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:08 pm

He hasn't played timid since his injury though. His jump shot can be pretty inconsistent, but I think you'll find most backup PGs are guilty of the same thing. What's NOT inconsistent is his effort and lately his vision.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Chillbongo on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:15 pm

Blake has played for 3 coaches as a Laker, each with a different philosophy.

The first coach took him out of the "game" he's been playing his entire career.

With the second coach, he got no training camp in a LOCKOUT season. Not to mention a few different systems and the whole Sessions/Fisher situation put him on the back burner.

The third coach was probably the BEST fit for him, but he stepped on a damn spike strip. Now that he's healthy, and is the TRUE backup pg in a system that is tailored to his play.

With MDA he actually gets to play to his strengths. He knows his role and with Pau out he doesn't have to worry about always playing inside out. I think it's not too crazy to expect games like this from Blake IMO.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:24 pm

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when a player is just playing timid, or not putting the work, fine, i'll dish out the criticism. we do it for dwight, we do it for kobe. everyone.


when has blake ever been accused of not putting in the work? All the coaches have said the exact opposite. Kobe has continued to give Blake praise for his tenacity and his work ethic. Did he play timid at times? For me, yes. However, it had been said that he was playing the way the coaches wanted him to play. As for the other players we criticize for almost all the wrong things every time. Someone complained that Dwight only had 13 listed shots which "isn't enough" according to the poster. We had 7 players in double figures yet we have complaints that Dwight didn't get enough touches. My entire point has been for this whole time... give the guy credit when it is due without the added hate.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:24 pm

Chillbongo wrote:Blake has played for 3 coaches as a Laker, each with a different philosophy.

The first coach took him out of the "game" he's been playing his entire career.

With the second coach, he got no training camp in a LOCKOUT season. Not to mention a few different systems and the whole Sessions/Fisher situation put him on the back burner.

The third coach was probably the BEST fit for him, but he stepped on a damn spike strip. Now that he's healthy, and is the TRUE backup pg in a system that is tailored to his play.

With MDA he actually gets to play to his strengths. He knows his role and with Pau out he doesn't have to worry about always playing inside out. I think it's not too crazy to expect games like this from Blake IMO.

Good point.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:25 pm

it doesn't matter what coach or system you play for. you tailor your game to fit the coaches needs. you think players play for the same coach through their entire career? you come to play, you bring your game. blake was primarily a good shooter, that's all we really asked of him. he hasn't really shot outside consistently.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Juronimo on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:25 pm

I have to agree with puffy on this one. Blake is playing solid ball right now and has been playing solid ball since his return from that abdominal injury. Really the only issue he's had as a Laker has been health.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:26 pm

puffyusaf#2 wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:
when a player is just playing timid, or not putting the work, fine, i'll dish out the criticism. we do it for dwight, we do it for kobe. everyone.


when has blake ever been accused of not putting in the work? All the coaches have said the exact opposite. Kobe has continued to give Blake praise for his tenacity and his work ethic. Did he play timid at times? For me, yes. However, it had been said that he was playing the way the coaches wanted him to play. As for the other players we criticize for almost all the wrong things every time. Someone complained that Dwight only had 13 listed shots which "isn't enough" according to the poster. We had 7 players in double figures yet we have complaints that Dwight didn't get enough touches. My entire point has been for this whole time... give the guy credit when it is due without the added hate.


puffy, i was referring to all players, not just blake in particularly.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:36 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:it doesn't matter what coach or system you play for. you tailor your game to fit the coaches needs. you think players play for the same coach through their entire career? you come to play, you bring your game. blake was primarily a good shooter, that's all we really asked of him. he hasn't really shot outside consistently.


That doesn't make sense at all. If that was the case then why do we need Phil Jackson to win Championships? We already had Shaq and Kobe to of the greatest players of all time. Why did Phil modify the triangle for MJ and then again for Kobe? Why did Mike D have to adjust his offense? If you have Dirk on your team you don't play a pound it in the paint game because that isn't Dirk's strengths. Like wise you don't get a team with primary post players to play with Lebron. He needs shooters and cutters around him. Jodi Meeks lead the NBA in spot up shooting last year but this year has been a waste. Why? Because the Lakers were not driving and kicking the ball to play to his strengths. Dwight Howard has the post game of a 5 year old midget but is one of the greatest pick and roll bigs to play the game. Make him a back to the basket post player and its a trainwreck. However, put him in high pick and rolls with guys rotating and its magical. The point is players are traded because they are not built for a system. Lamar Odom, one of the NBA's most versitile players, took years to find his nitch within the triangle. Why? Because his game didn't fit. PJax made him the six man and let the second squad go away from the triangle playing to LO's skills. Can you imagine the Lakers had Pat Riley made Magic play as a forward instead of the PG? Or maybe the 2? It would of been a disaster more likely because Magic's skillsets were of a PG. A passing PG. Coaches job is to try and Maximize a players strength plain and simple. Blake is being maximized now instead of stifled. It really isn't complicated.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:38 pm

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puffyusaf#2 wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:
when a player is just playing timid, or not putting the work, fine, i'll dish out the criticism. we do it for dwight, we do it for kobe. everyone.


when has blake ever been accused of not putting in the work? All the coaches have said the exact opposite. Kobe has continued to give Blake praise for his tenacity and his work ethic. Did he play timid at times? For me, yes. However, it had been said that he was playing the way the coaches wanted him to play. As for the other players we criticize for almost all the wrong things every time. Someone complained that Dwight only had 13 listed shots which "isn't enough" according to the poster. We had 7 players in double figures yet we have complaints that Dwight didn't get enough touches. My entire point has been for this whole time... give the guy credit when it is due without the added hate.


puffy, i was referring to all players, not just blake in particularly.

ok fair enough. Although I think we are overly critical on all our players as a fan base in general.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:16 pm

Blake was great. That is all.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Weezy on Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:17 pm

Fantastic offensive game. That was the Blake we used to see against us, hitting 3's, setting up guys, great game.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Lakerjones on Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:22 pm

Superb game. I'm finally feeling like we're beginning to see the Blake we all thought we were getting a couple/few years ago. He seems like himself!! Not the terrible imitation we've suffered watching for so long.

Great stuff from Steve Blake. :bow:
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby therealdeal on Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:26 pm

This was probably his best game as a Laker. He was moving the ball almost perfectly. He was taking and making the right shots. He was even rebounding the ball effectively.

I know he got kind of worked on by Barea, but to be fair the refs gave him some help and he's a really crafty offensive player.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby lakersyunowin on Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:27 pm

solid...that reverse layup on stiemsma was pretty stuff
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby The Rock on Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:30 pm

I dont recognize this guy

But he plays much better at home than on the road though ugh hes a vet he needs to step up on the road and help out
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby bayarealakersfan on Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:38 am

Not to shabby... the guy has played well as of late. 13 pts, 7 rebs & 6 assists in 25 mins. Keep it up Mr. Blake! :jam2:
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:08 am

Does Steve Blake have an identical twin?
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Juronimo on Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:57 am

Blake is looking really good for us right now. He has looked as good as he has looked as a Laker. Fantastic game last night.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby LakerFanIam on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:02 pm

If I'm not mistaken, Our record is 11-5 since Blake's return???
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby lakerfan2 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:13 pm

I hope Blake can sustain this type of play. This is the type of performance we need off the bench if we're to be successful.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby Lqv2015 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:20 pm

He's like a betta fish. Miserable in a tight container, but put him in a larger fish tank, he will flourish. Thanks to MDA's offense. Keep it up Blake.
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Re: Steve Blake Discussion: solid, efficient, productive

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:33 pm

I should state again that as soon as the team began moving without the ball both Blake and Nash have shown their worth. Blake's game has improved with the addition of energy and movement. The guy wasn't being aggressive enough (just like Nash) but has been aggressive this season. He will have some games where he isn't as effective but he is doing more of the great stuff now. Keep it up Blakester. :jam2:
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