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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby Congo Cash on Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:37 pm

kray28 wrote:I wonder how much worse our defense gets when Nash comes back though.

Doesn't matter... The offense will be 1,000x better, and there is zero point of not playing him when they paid him in the 1st place...

It's not like Dwight Howard will become trash defensively just because Nash is back... :man11:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby FabFourLakers on Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:41 pm

I remember when Nash got injured against Portland...i was thinking....he's out at least a month if not longer...my friend was like oh its nothing he'll be fine lakers just reported it and they're saying he's out a week or two....man if anyone knows lakers training staff...they're terrible at predicting when a player will come back. I just hope it's not any more serious than what they're saying....I don't want another Malone situation to happen. Guy stays healthy for majority of his career and minute he steps on the court with the Lakers...boom, he goes down :bang:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby easyguy on Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:43 pm

FabFourLakers wrote:I remember when Nash got injured against Portland...i was thinking....he's out at least a month if not longer...my friend was like oh its nothing he'll be fine lakers just reported it and they're saying he's out a week or two....man if anyone knows lakers training staff...they're terrible at predicting when a player will come back. I just hope it's not any more serious than what they're saying....I don't want another Malone situation to happen. Guy stays healthy for majority of his career and minute he steps on the court with the Lakers...boom, he goes down :bang:



Yeah, I dont even want to think about that...... :man6:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby Magic Skywalker on Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:45 pm

Come on now, it's not like we're the Bulls, Blazers or Wolves.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby King of Clutch on Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:46 pm

HURRY BACK NASH!!!
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby FabFourLakers on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:51 am

You've gotta be kiddding me....

Nash out indefinitely..

LOS ANGELES -- The Los Angeles Lakers got their coach back on the sidelines Tuesday against the Brooklyn Nets. But it will be a while before Mike D'Antoni has two of the Lakers' veteran point guards available to run his offense.

The point guard everyone continues to wonder about is Steve Nash, who hasn't played since suffering a fractured fibula in his left leg on Oct. 31. There still is no determined date for the 16-year veteran's return.

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"The other Steve is coming along," D'Antoni said of the two-time league MVP. "I don't think we have a timetable. He feels some nerve endings that are tingling and when they go away, we'll start ramping it up and he'll be fine.

"Whether it's tomorrow or next week or next month, we'll just take our time and he'll eventually be there. As soon as he gets there, I know, give him an hour and a half and he'll have the offense down and running it like a clock. So we can wait on that."

Nash declined to speak to reporters in the locker room before Tuesday's game against the Nets, saying he had to return to the training room to receive treatment. He is scheduled to be reevaluated by Lakers doctors on Friday.

Steve Blake, who missed the Lakers' last three games with a strained abdomen, was out against Brooklyn and will not play during the upcoming three-game road trip either.

"I would like to see him practice before he plays," D'Antoni said. "We had four games in five nights and then we don't practice on Thanksgiving, so I would rule him out for the next four games and then after that, it should be day to day hopefully, and that will get him going."

Second year guard Darius Morris received his fourth straight start at point guard Tuesday with Chris Duhon, who played previously for D'Antoni in New York, serving as the backup.

The Lakers' road trip begins Wednesday in Sacramento and continues Friday in Memphis and Saturday in Dallas.


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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby Lakerjones on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:07 pm

^^ I am not overly concerned about Nash. It's going to heal when it heals. That's the nature of a fracture. We can all be thankful that it's not something like a ligament which would take a REALLY long time. The bone should heal up within a couple more weeks I would assume. The mistake they made was telling us it would take a week which was absurd as many here pointed out when it happened. The wiser ones here said more like 4-8 weeks.

Didn't Blake have an abdominal strain last year too? This guy has just been such a complete let down. I don't even remember the last guy who was this big of a bust for us. Hopefully he'll do something to redeem himself this year, but I'm really tired of him and actually prefer Duhon and Morris. And I supported him for a long time.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby FabFourLakers on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:20 pm

Lakerjones wrote:^^ I am not overly concerned about Nash. It's going to heal when it heals. That's the nature of a fracture. We can all be thankful that it's not something like a ligament which would take a REALLY long time. The bone should heal up within a couple more weeks I would assume. The mistake they made was telling us it would take a week which was absurd as many here pointed out when it happened. The wiser ones here said more like 4-8 weeks.

Didn't Blake have an abdominal strain last year too? This guy has just been such a complete let down. I don't even remember the last guy who was this big of a bust for us. Hopefully he'll do something to redeem himself this year, but I'm really tired of him and actually prefer Duhon and Morris. And I supported him for a long time.



Well my fear is a MIS-DIAGNOSIS by your piss poor training staff....that's what I'm fearing....and whenever i see the word "indefinitely", it is NEVER good. I just hope you're right....can't believe this team still has yet to see NASH on the floor. Any wins without nash against good teams are like bonus wins...
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:04 pm

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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby 432J on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:30 pm

malone 2.0

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this is what it could easily turn in to
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby GoldenKnight on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:53 pm

432J wrote:malone 2.0

:bang:


this is what it could easily turn in to


Not really, very different situations man.

I just hope Nash gets well, we can hold off until he returns, wait til you're 100% get well Steve :jam2:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby 432J on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:02 pm

GoldenKnight wrote:
432J wrote:malone 2.0

:bang:


this is what it could easily turn in to


Not really, very different situations man.

I just hope Nash gets well, we can hold off until he returns, wait til you're 100% get well Steve :jam2:

not different at all

both guys come to LA at the end of their HOF careers in a chance to win a ring. malone gets hurt, doesn't come back for a while and isn't the same after that

nash...???


i really hope he fully heals soon and gets back out there ASAP but it's just scary knowing they have no idea when he'll be back and who knows if he'll be at 100%
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby Lakerjones on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:07 pm

FabFourLakers wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:^^ I am not overly concerned about Nash. It's going to heal when it heals. That's the nature of a fracture. We can all be thankful that it's not something like a ligament which would take a REALLY long time. The bone should heal up within a couple more weeks I would assume. The mistake they made was telling us it would take a week which was absurd as many here pointed out when it happened. The wiser ones here said more like 4-8 weeks.

Didn't Blake have an abdominal strain last year too? This guy has just been such a complete let down. I don't even remember the last guy who was this big of a bust for us. Hopefully he'll do something to redeem himself this year, but I'm really tired of him and actually prefer Duhon and Morris. And I supported him for a long time.



Well my fear is a MIS-DIAGNOSIS by your piss poor training staff....that's what I'm fearing....and whenever i see the word "indefinitely", it is NEVER good. I just hope you're right....can't believe this team still has yet to see NASH on the floor. Any wins without nash against good teams are like bonus wins...


I hear you, no doubt we've heard that players will be back way sooner than they actually are here in Lakerland before. But "indefinitely" simply means there isn't a determined return date. That can be the case whether it's a turned ankle, a ligament tear or a fracture. It doesn't mean it's more or less severe than when it was diagnosed. Just that they won't put a date for the players return.

We'll see. Hopefully he's back sooner than later.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby Lakerjones on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:08 pm

GoldenKnight wrote:
432J wrote:malone 2.0

:bang:


this is what it could easily turn in to


Not really, very different situations man.

I just hope Nash gets well, we can hold off until he returns, wait til you're 100% get well Steve :jam2:


Agreed. A ligament tear is a much more serious thing. Fractures usually heal within 4-8 weeks, ligaments can take months and months, even up to a year.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:01 pm

When I saw the play happen it really didn't look that serious. Can't believe how long he will be out for. I am predicting 3rd week of December
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby kenzo on Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:11 pm

Our medical staff sucks, that's a fact :bang:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby pound4pound1 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:17 pm

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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby ojdidit123 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:23 pm

kenzo wrote:Our medical staff sucks, that's a fact :bang:

No our medical staff is just fine they have done wonders for Kobe over the years its all about the fact we are just for some reason clinging our hopes to a 90 year old point guard who is going to just like Malone spend a good portion of the season on the bench. Why because thats just WHAT OLD PLAYERS DO. Nash out at least 40 games this year with various injuries is my projection father time has caught up with him simple as that. The guy got almost hurt twice in preseason prior to the fracture it was destined to happen and something similar will probably happen again.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby kenzo on Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:42 pm

ojdidit123 wrote:
kenzo wrote:Our medical staff sucks, that's a fact :bang:

No our medical staff is just fine they have done wonders for Kobe over the years its all about the fact we are just for some reason clinging our hopes to a 90 year old point guard who is going to just like Malone spend a good portion of the season on the bench. Why because thats just WHAT OLD PLAYERS DO. Nash out at least 40 games this year with various injuries is my projection father time has caught up with him simple as that. The guy got almost hurt twice in preseason prior to the fracture it was destined to happen and something similar will probably happen again.

I stand by my statement. Kobe is a different kind of animal, you can give him aspirine for a broken foot and he'll be good to go. Every other player is always behind schedule or diagnosed wrong.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby 432J on Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:52 pm

i expect nash to be back by mid to late december at the earliest
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby jimbo327 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:06 pm

Nash needs to sit out until that fib heals completely. There is a lot of load on the legs, and we don't want Steve to seriously break his fib if he lands incorrectly. So let him heal 100%, and then come back when he is fully healed. We are fine without Nash.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby Sirron on Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:37 pm

we're doing ok without him, so let the man heal up
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:33 am

It's obvious we need him back. He's our floor general and knows D'Antoni's offense. He's the key to all of this in making it work and keeping everybody happy distributing the basketball. Unfortunately, we have another back to back coming up, and I seriously hope we pull out both.

I can't wait until he gets back...
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby tigerjeterkobe on Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:21 am

SMH. With this news, and the age of Nash and Blake's history of injuries, I just don't get why we don't add depth. A combo guard who can play 10-15 minutes and who has big-game experience. If Morris or Duhon go down we are screwed - with no time then to add and integrate another player.

West or Arenas make sense. Esp West, who can defend and help run the offense.

We are set up for a huge depth issue now. Too much on the line this year. Dont need DJO and Ebanks and Clark. Cut two - sign West and Pietrus. PLEASE!!!!!! I think Pietrus will take the remainder of the MMLE we have, which is just above the vet min for him. We need depth and defenders - cause our bench CANT GET ANY STOPS.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion (At least 1 more week away)

Postby XXIV on Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:54 am

^ It wasn't just the bench that couldn't get stops but the starters as well. I blame this loss on the back to back and the lack of effort. Hopefully once Dwight gets into shape more, and Nash returns we'll be more consistently like how we were during that three game win streak.
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