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Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:57 pm

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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:57 am

Nash has definitely been playing a lot better of late. Looking like the old Nash. But his D still sucks but what do you expect with a slow, 39 year old anyways.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:21 am

WHere is the Nashty love? The dude has been a magician.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:27 am

With Dwight setting legitimate screens now, Nash has been popping off lately. :man10:

He's finding space EVERYWHERE to get his shot off. Teams will just continue to give Dwight all of their attention. I noticed in this Wolves game it seemed like at times Dwight would be double and triple teamed and Nash is just dribbling the ball WIDE open. I wanted Dwight to get more touches, but Nash made every right decision in the last game in pick and rolls with Dwight.

I can see him WANTING to give Dwight the ball, but teams are daring him to score. So score he shall. :man10:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Lakerjones on Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:36 am

puffyusaf#2 wrote:WHere is the Nashty love? The dude has been a magician.


I have much love for Nash! As I mentioned many times here already, I'm so stoked to have this guy on our team. And with Blake playing so much better we are really in good shape right now at PG.

The hard screens by Dwight have got Nash back in business. That pick and roll game is awesome. Dwight needs to work on rolling though. He dropped the slip screen which is fine because it wasn't working, but he still needs to figure out how to get open after he screens Nash's man.

But it's great stuff. Nash Howard P and R is developing now, and that was the main thing I wanted to see this year. So I'm very pleased about that. And of course, with that P and R, Nash looks like himself again. That's what I wanted. Not the Princeton.

Now if we can get some pick and pop with Pau and Nash when Gasol returns, that would just add to the mix. People need to remember, just as you said Puffy, that these guys simply have not had the time to work together yet because of all of the injuries. They are still a work in progress, but haven't even truly begun to work because Pau and Nash (each at different times of course) have been hurt for much of the year. That's not an excuse. That's just the truth of the matter.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Nikez on Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:59 am

Freaking love this dude :jam2: :jam2: :jam2:

Report: Steve Nash happy in L.A.
Updated: February 28, 2013, 1:08 PM ET
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Steve Nash says he does not regret his decision to join the Los Angeles Lakers.

Nash acknowledged facing "challenges" in an interview Wednesday with USA Today Sports but also told the website that he does not regret the sign-and-trade deal that sent the two-time MVP from the Phoenix Suns to the Lakers.

"Ten out of 10 times, I make the same decision again," Nash told USA Today.

Nash opted to join the Lakers this past offseason instead of signing with the New York Knicks or Toronto Raptors, a pair of East Coast teams that reportedly pursued the 39-year-old point guard.


It'd be nice, in some ways, to have a bigger impact on the game. You have to balance it with all the guys, all their needs and personalities. I embrace it. I really appreciate it. I could still be in Phoenix and have the ball in my hands the majority of the time and probably be out of the playoffs again, so it's worthy of trying something new -- especially since the upside here is potentially great.

-- Steve Nash to USA Today Sports
Nash repeatedly has stated that playing in Los Angeles would allow him to more frequently see his children, who reside in the Phoenix area, and he reiterated those sentiments to USA Today.

"I've gotten to see my kids probably four times as much as I'd seen them if I'd have gone back East," Nash told the website. "That's first and foremost. Second of all, it's a great experience to play for the Lakers organization. ... I'm happy here.

"I'm beyond playing for the credit or the adulation. I feel secure in myself as a player. I just want to help this team, regardless of what it means for me personally."

The Lakers (28-30) trail the Houston Rockets by 2½ games for the eighth seed in the Western Conference and are in danger of missing the playoffs for the first time since the 2004-05 season.

Nash's agent, Bill Duffy, told the website that his client would have considered retiring if he had been unable to stay close to his family.

"If L.A. wouldn't have worked, I honestly think he would've considered retiring," Duffy told USA Today. "He said that three or four times from July 1 to July 5, and I was saying, 'If he wants to retire, I have to respect it, but let's piece this thing together so you can get what you want and continue to play.'"

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Nash also received rave reviews from Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak and coach Mike D'Antoni, who both told USA Today that they admire the eight-time All-Star's willingness to accept a lesser role on Los Angeles' star-studded roster.

"His desire to figure out a way to make it work is remarkable," Kupchak told the website. "He's always prodding, always making the sacrifice. Yet you have to catch yourself and say, 'This is a two-time MVP.' He could certainly say, 'No, I'm not changing. You've got to do it my way.' How many two-time MVPs are as accommodating as he is?"

Nash is averaging just 7.1 assists per game this season, his lowest mark since the 1999-2000 campaign as a member of the Dallas Mavericks.

Nash's current statistics pale in comparison to the numbers he put up in Phoenix, where he averaged at least 11 assists in five of his eight seasons while leading the NBA in assists six times.

D'Antoni, who coached Nash for four seasons in Phoenix, told USA Today that he wished more members of his current team made similar sacrifices.


"It's too bad not everybody is like that, because that would make my job and everybody's job ... a lot easier," he told the website. "It's not like that, but [Nash is] hard to put in words because he's the best you can be -- with his teammates, with his coaching staff. He's the best. It doesn't get any better than that."

Nash also admitted that adjusting to a lesser role has been difficult, but he told USA Today that he "embraces" playing with Lakers All-Stars Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard.

"It's been different. It's been an adjustment," he told the website. "But I want to embrace these challenges. I'm at a stage of my career with a new club where I'm playing with Kobe -- he's a great player -- and finding that balance and accepting and embracing that opportunity is key. It'd be nice, in some ways, to have a bigger impact on the game. You have to balance it with all the guys, all their needs and personalities. I embrace it.

"I really appreciate it. I could still be in Phoenix and have the ball in my hands the majority of the time and probably be out of the playoffs again, so it's worthy of trying something new -- especially since the upside here is potentially great."

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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby karacha on Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:05 pm

His shooting percentages:

51/44 (!)/90.

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That's uh... pretty decent.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Finwë on Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:27 pm

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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby KB24 on Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:45 am

Nash really is the first shooter than comes to the Lakers and actually shoots great.

He is just that good. Everytime he shoots, I expect it to go in. Probably the greatest shooter in NBA history. He also makes awkward shots, off of one leg, fallaways, off the dribble pull ups, stationary 3s, screen and pops..he really has every single trick in the shooting book.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:13 am

Everytime he's missing a shot , I'm like " c'mon Steve you can't miss that" ... that's how good of a shooter he is ... I don't think I've ever seen a player with little size and athleticism getting his own shot up so easily
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby JSM on Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:24 pm

^ Yep. Even when he goes up and under between 3 defenders all waiting to block his shot and is falling to the floor, I still expect him to make that shot. Crazy. I expect him to make some shots that I don't even expect Kobe to make.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby gcclaker on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:57 am

KB24 wrote:Nash really is the first shooter than comes to the Lakers and actually shoots great.

He is just that good. Everytime he shoots, I expect it to go in. Probably the greatest shooter in NBA history. He also makes awkward shots, off of one leg, fallaways, off the dribble pull ups, stationary 3s, screen and pops..he really has every single trick in the shooting book.

Solid focus plus textbook shooting form and follow through that he has not altered throughout his career. Every time Nash misses a shot, I am shocked. Hell, those two charity stripe misses in Detroit is a rarity.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Lakerjones on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:19 am

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KB24 wrote:Nash really is the first shooter than comes to the Lakers and actually shoots great.

He is just that good. Everytime he shoots, I expect it to go in. Probably the greatest shooter in NBA history. He also makes awkward shots, off of one leg, fallaways, off the dribble pull ups, stationary 3s, screen and pops..he really has every single trick in the shooting book.

Solid focus plus textbook shooting form and follow through that he has not altered throughout his career. Every time Nash misses a shot, I am shocked. Hell, those two charity stripe misses in Detroit is a rarity.


So true! I'm much more surprised when he misses than he makes a shot. I love me some Nash! :bow:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby gcclaker on Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:12 pm

During today's Thunder-Clipper game, they showed who was in the 50/40/90 season % list [FG/3PTSHOT/FT] and Nash was in there FOUR [count em FOUR!] times. That Bird guy did it twice.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:45 pm

gcclaker wrote:
KB24 wrote:Nash really is the first shooter than comes to the Lakers and actually shoots great.

He is just that good. Everytime he shoots, I expect it to go in. Probably the greatest shooter in NBA history. He also makes awkward shots, off of one leg, fallaways, off the dribble pull ups, stationary 3s, screen and pops..he really has every single trick in the shooting book.

Solid focus plus textbook shooting form and follow through that he has not altered throughout his career. Every time Nash misses a shot, I am shocked. Hell, those two charity stripe misses in Detroit is a rarity.


Plus downright Kobe-esque footwork once he's picked up his dribble and is trapped between multiple defenders. Pivot planted, now you have me, now you don't step through and put up a decent shot. Very Kobe like in that regard. Especially for a short white guy that can't jump.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Finwë on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:03 pm

I thought he was a little underutilized this game. We got the W, but I would like to see the ball in his hands a bit more to close games. He's still a clutch player, and we all know about his playmaking and shooting. It could make Kobe's job easier too, find him on the catch for a jumper, put him on the post, etc.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby lakersyunowin on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:08 pm

his imprint disappeared a bit down the stretch, but he was pretty good for us this game.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:24 pm

He didn't touch the ball down the stretch. :man10:

I'm okay with it for now because it's working. But I'd like to see him touch the ball a bit more and have Kobe move off the ball a little.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby last stand on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:56 pm

it's great that nash has started to play like nash. i felt so robbed early in the season when dwight was hobbling and nash was doing nothing post injury.

now at least nash is fun to watch again and we have a deadly backcourt
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Postby Jazzygirl205 on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:57 pm

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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:56 am

He has to step up and not just getting out of Kobe way in the clutch ... way too much predictable and has lost us a ton of games these latest 2+ seasons .

I'm not sure how this team can run the same play for 5 mins and not use one of the most efficient offensive players ever one single time ... MDA offensive genius :man10:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Lakerjones on Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:52 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:He has to step up and not just getting out of Kobe way in the clutch ... way too much predictable and has lost us a ton of games these latest 2+ seasons .

I'm not sure how this team can run the same play for 5 mins and not use one of the most efficient offensive players ever one single time ... MDA offensive genius :man10:


I don't either. And it was absolutely by design. Nash would come up and hand it off to Kobe. I don't understand that. I understand getting the ball to Kobe, but I don't understand dropping the ball off to Kobe and having him handle it all possession over and over. Seemed to be going to the well too many times. Luckily Kobe finished everything off, but they have more offensive weapons and options on the team even with Pau down. Let Nash run the damn offense.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:20 am

Because it's working.

If it wasn't working, we wouldn't be doing it. Teams are single covering Kobe right now and Kobe is making them pay. Once teams start doubling him, he doesn't have any problem handing the ball back to Nash.

The only thing I'd like to see differently is some Kobe/Dwight off the ball actions. Just like Atlanta did to us with Korver and Horford, we should be able to do the same with Kobe and Dwight.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Lakerjones on Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:38 am

therealdeal wrote:Because it's working.

If it wasn't working, we wouldn't be doing it. Teams are single covering Kobe right now and Kobe is making them pay. Once teams start doubling him, he doesn't have any problem handing the ball back to Nash.

The only thing I'd like to see differently is some Kobe/Dwight off the ball actions. Just like Atlanta did to us with Korver and Horford, we should be able to do the same with Kobe and Dwight.


It worked enough to get us by I'd say, realdeal. Kobe was 6- 15 in that second half. He wasn't red hot like he was in the fourth quarter at Dallas. It became extremely predictable quickly and those aren't the percentages I love. We have other options on the team and we are more effective when we diversify. I didn't love that execution down the stretch by any means, although I'm thankful that Kobe is superhuman and can still do incredible work to win the game. It was just the same thing over and over with Nash playing spectator. We can do much better than that. And frankly, I expect more out of D' Antoni than that. Mike Brown? Ok. That's what it resembled - Mike Brown ball. Nash got turned into Fisher for some reason. There's no reason to do that. Run some other plays.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:56 am

I just don't agree on this point. Was it predictable? Yes. But that's because the defense didn't make any adjustments to do something different. Dallas did and the results showed. Atlanta just kept switching bigs onto him and then using Smith. Kobe roasted them. That's what he was supposed to do.

Now if we were doing that and it didn't work, if Kobe was bricking shots, I'd be upset. But he was attacking and that's what mattered. If the defense had thrown other defenders at him like Dallas did, we'd have seen a different result.
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