Steve Nash Discussion: Retiring; Lakers Disabled Exception

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Postby JSM on Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:51 am

If we manage to win the 'ship next season, I think he'll hang it up.

I thought all along that he'll retire with Kobe. With increased talks of next year being Kobe's last, I think it will be Nash's finale as well.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby khmrP on Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:53 am

JSM wrote:If we manage to win the 'ship next season, I think he'll hang it up.

I thought all along that he'll retire with Kobe. With increased talks of next year being Kobe's last, I think it will be Nash's finale as well.


trade him back to the Suns for a TPE :man1: so he can retire as a Sun.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:15 am

Anyone think he might hang 'em up this summer?

He's had nothing but injuries to go along with what is probably his worst season in a long time. Or does he hold on one more year and either risk hurting the team more or himself?
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:49 am

I'd rather he retire than go through another season like this. Was hoping he'd at least have a chance to compete for a ring after joining this team, but to see him go out like this is sad.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby khmrP on Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:56 am

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:I'd rather he retire than go through another season like this. Was hoping he'd at least have a chance to compete for a ring after joining this team, but to see him go out like this is sad.


I see nothing sad about it, he got his money, he got his preference of playing close to home/family and chance to compete (at least to start off with). Its us who should be sad, I fore one questionned the excitement since day 1 of his signing. Yea he's better than anything we had over the years but giving a 39yr old nearly 10mill/yr with a well document back problem was questionnable. Neither of the two other options on his radar would've been any better (NY/Tor). NY is at a better record than us but IMO he would not have fit that team any better then what current Felton is doing. Beside's playing off ball, Nash didn't have to sacrifice anything of sorts to come here, pretty much got his cake and ate it too. Now Jamison on the other hand actually gave up a whole bunch more in monetary compensation to come here.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby JSM on Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:58 pm

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Steve Nash did not practice Thursday. He's listed as doubtful for tomorrow's Grizzlies game.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby The Rock on Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:15 pm

Havent we always had ATROCIOUS PG defense and won rings anyways? He isnt any worse than D-Fish on D and brings much more on offense. Hes a keeper as long as hes healthy
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby lakersin4 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:50 pm

The Rock wrote:Havent we always had ATROCIOUS PG defense and won rings anyways? He isnt any worse than D-Fish on D and brings much more on offense. Hes a keeper as long as hes healthy

You wouldn't rather have a younger, quicker PG who plays defense? Nash is still a huge name we can get good value for him. I just don't think he fits our needs as well as a player like I described.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:16 pm

People who think we're trading Nash are out of their mind.

Not unless Nash and Phoenix want to hook up again. He came here to win first, but also because it is near his kids. We're not going to be the jerks that trade a guy like Nash away from his kids.

He's either a Laker or he retires.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby lakersin4 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:18 pm

therealdeal wrote:People who think we're trading Nash are out of their mind.

Not unless Nash and Phoenix want to hook up again. He came here to win first, but also because it is near his kids. We're not going to be the jerks that trade a guy like Nash away from his kids.

He's either a Laker or he retires.

Maybe he wants to retire in Canada.. I'd be happy with Lowry. Maybe Mitch can get us glass ankles Curry & keep Nash in Cali close to his kids.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby kenzo on Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:41 pm

lakersin4 wrote:
The Rock wrote:Havent we always had ATROCIOUS PG defense and won rings anyways? He isnt any worse than D-Fish on D and brings much more on offense. Hes a keeper as long as hes healthy

You wouldn't rather have a younger, quicker PG who plays defense? Nash is still a huge name we can get good value for him. I just don't think he fits our needs as well as a player like I described.

We had one in Sessions... how did that worked out? :man9:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby SpencerHarrison on Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:12 am

Lakers are not trading Nash, and he will be around until the contract ends.

I don't think Nash has been that big of a factor one way or the other this year, and that should be shocking. He isn't so bad that you laugh and turn off the game. He also isn't what we thought we were getting. Turns out Steve Nash on the Lakers is a streaky shooter with good ball handling who gets screened really easily. I don't think LA is better without him, I just don't think they're very much better WITH him either.

I don't know what he would look like running the team without Kobe, but it doesn't matter. Much of what made Nash a legend is NOT on display in LA. It isn't his fault, and he's doing his best but...

...It didn't up being the right move. Bummer.

Then again, if we make the playoffs? Maybe that's where Sessions folds and Nash rises. It's a pressure cooker, and Mitch build a veteran squad.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:38 am

lakersin4 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:People who think we're trading Nash are out of their mind.

Not unless Nash and Phoenix want to hook up again. He came here to win first, but also because it is near his kids. We're not going to be the jerks that trade a guy like Nash away from his kids.

He's either a Laker or he retires.

Maybe he wants to retire in Canada.. I'd be happy with Lowry. Maybe Mitch can get us glass ankles Curry & keep Nash in Cali close to his kids.

Are his kids in Canada or Phoenix?

And the difference between Phoenix and LA and Phoenix and Oakland is pretty damn far.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:34 pm

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D'Antoni after Sat. practice on Nash: "I don't think he's going to go tomorrow." Would (essentially) be his 4th straight game out.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby therealdeal on Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:36 pm

F***... This is putting so much pressure on the team... Especially Kobe.

I don't understand how a team can have this many injuries...
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:36 am

The Rock wrote:Havent we always had ATROCIOUS PG defense and won rings anyways? He isnt any worse than D-Fish on D and brings much more on offense. Hes a keeper as long as hes healthy


because our team D and the others positions were solid enough on D to counter Fish weakness which clearly isn't the case today ... plus NBA style of play has changed a lot these latest 3 seasons
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby The Rock on Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:44 am

lakersin4 wrote:
The Rock wrote:Havent we always had ATROCIOUS PG defense and won rings anyways? He isnt any worse than D-Fish on D and brings much more on offense. Hes a keeper as long as hes healthy

You wouldn't rather have a younger, quicker PG who plays defense? Nash is still a huge name we can get good value for him. I just don't think he fits our needs as well as a player like I described.


How many PGs out there actually play defense? You just gotta hope your PG puts up enough points to match his counterpart
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby The Rock on Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:45 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:
The Rock wrote:Havent we always had ATROCIOUS PG defense and won rings anyways? He isnt any worse than D-Fish on D and brings much more on offense. Hes a keeper as long as hes healthy


because our team D and the others positions were solid enough on D to counter Fish weakness which clearly isn't the case today ... plus NBA style of play has changed a lot these latest 3 seasons


of course its changed but Nash is an elite shooter and is a solid playmaker next to Kobe....they still have that 1/2 pick and roll weapon which they played vs Miami that looks damn near unguardable
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:48 am

I don't mind him being out against the Floppers ... we're shorthanded but we won't miss his pathetic D against CP3 ... Blake isn't a defensive stopper but he's way better than Nash both as an individual and team defender ...

I wouldn't mind Nash playing with the 2nd unit especially as long as Blake is shooting the 3 ball well .

We just had 3 solid defensive performances in a row ( against average offense teams but still better than what we have done for the majority of the season) without him.

Nash offensive impact/defensive liability ratio has been clearly negative
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:56 am

The Rock wrote:
wcsoldier81 wrote:
The Rock wrote:Havent we always had ATROCIOUS PG defense and won rings anyways? He isnt any worse than D-Fish on D and brings much more on offense. Hes a keeper as long as hes healthy


because our team D and the others positions were solid enough on D to counter Fish weakness which clearly isn't the case today ... plus NBA style of play has changed a lot these latest 3 seasons


of course its changed but Nash is an elite shooter and is a solid playmaker next to Kobe....they still have that 1/2 pick and roll weapon which they played vs Miami that looks damn near unguardable


pb is they don't often use this ... we had games in which Kobe was going 1 on 5 in the 4th ( like the Wizards one lately) and instead of taking responsabilities and making plays , Nash kept giving the rock to Kobe and get out of his way .... his offensive impact has been dissapointing , I know he's 39 and this roster isn't the best fit for him but his attitude in the clutch is a bust
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby JSM on Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:09 pm

Everyone can say he was a mistake, broken down, nothing left, and doesn't look like the Phoenix Steve Nash but I'll take a broken down Nash over starting Blake any night of the week and twice on Sunday.

Really hoping we can some news on his return during the post-game interviews tonight.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Egor190 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:15 pm

we could use this guys shooting
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Weezy on Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:17 pm

We do need his shooting/scoring, but at the same time the guy gives up as many points as he gets, if not more. I shudder to think what more CP3 would have done to him today.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby SK8 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:23 pm

I love Steve so much, but i still think he need to pack his bags and go this summer.....
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby The Rock on Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:32 pm

I hope he returns in the POR game, I think we can take care of New Orleans without him

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-lakers-steve-nash-20130408,0,2593954.story

Steve Nash is doubtful to play on Tuesday night, still struggling with hamstring and hip soreness.

"Steve is still experiencing some discomfort, and it's day to day and he'll keep trying to improve," said Coach Mike D'Antoni. "It's getting better but it's not quite there yet."

On Sunday, D'Antoni said he was hoping to have Nash back by Tuesday for the Lakers' battle against the New Orleans Hornets. Steve Blake will get the start instead.

The Lakers have five games remaining to make up ground on the eighth-place Utah Jazz. Unless the Jazz lose at least one game, the Lakers won't be able to catch them in the standings.

Nash has played in just 50 of 77 games this season. He went down with a leg fracture in the second game of the season. On the year he's averaging 12.7 points and 6.7 assists while shooting 49.7% from the field and 43.8% from the arc.

After facing the Hornets on Tuesday, the Lakers are to visit the Portland Trail Blazers the following night. In 15 tries, the team has yet to win on consecutive nights.

Nash's status for Wednesday isn't clear. The veteran point guard has been sidelined since March 30 after playing just two minutes against the Sacramento Kings. He was injured in the first half of a loss to the Milwaukee Bucks on March 28.
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