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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:22 pm

SpencerHarrison wrote:I have a problem. I like the idea of Steve Nash, but I can't for the life of me figure out what he actually brings to this team besides intangibles.

He can KIND OF score decently when he makes it a priority. But otherwise, here's what Nash on the floor gets you:

*Instant defensive switch on PnR. You screen him, hes gone. Easy to switch matchups all night long or just blow by him.

*Smaller, older and slower.

*Turnover prone.

What positives does he give you? What matchup problems does he create? I see him fumbling inside on drives, throwing possessions away, airballing shots, missing floaters and 3 pointers, etc.

With Blake all I see is smart ball movement, crisp passes and good decision making.

AM I HIGH? MAKE THIS STOP!!!

There was a good argument for why all of this is happening that I read here, but the fact remains:

Steve Nash isn't particularly good or effective on either end of the floor for this team.

And yes, this comes on the heels of maybe his most complete statistical game against Golden State. But I still stand by this.

We'd be better off with a younger defensive PG that can score.. I think the idea of sending Nash home to Canada in the offseason for Lowry + picks & pieces needs to be seriously looked at. If we could contain PG's we'd win many more games.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby SpencerHarrison on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:33 pm

I think Nash could still go and be a leader on the right team. But he just seems WASTED in LA.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Finwë on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:39 pm

I think you're exaggerating his offensive struggles. He's still a great offensive player, it's just that some games he doesn't perform up to the standards we're used to, and we start thinking that maybe he shouldn't be on the floor considering how weak he can be on D.
But still, I have no doubt that for the most part we're better off with him playing. Our shooting and ball movement is already bad, without Nash it'd be terrible
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Tobias Funke on Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:04 am

Nash is better (in this offense) when he's more assertive, but unfortunately he just cant maintain an aggressive offensive style of play for too long at his age.

Defensively Im not going to give him much crap for because he's as bad defensively as we all expected. Id say he actually tries on D now, he just gets lit up either anyway, whereas in Phx he would put absolutely no effort whatsoever into playing defense (not many have been that bad on one side of the court and have MVP(s) to show for it).

I think ideally the best way to maximize Nash's effectiveness at this stage of his career (regardless of what team he's playing on) would be to make sure he's basically always fresh by playing him about 25mpg, and then an few extra minutes in the playoffs.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:21 pm

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Nash tried to get ready to return, but D'Antoni said it wouldn't have been fair to him. He does expect Nash to start on Saturday.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Weezy on Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:56 pm

Man we just got this guy on our team a little too late. He can still be very good, he was in the 1st half tonight, but he's just not the same guy most of the time because of age and injury, body seems to be failing him off and on, and he's here for 2 more years, wow, not getting any younger.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby JSM on Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:04 am

Hopefully his hip/leg injury isn't serious. We can't afford another injury. We don't have a single player in the rotation who's healthy (Meeks isn't mentally healthy with some of the decisions he makes).

Nash did look very good out there when he was carrying the offensive load with Kobe on the bench.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Helljumper on Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:18 am

RT @LakersReporter: Steve Nash (hip, back) also received treatment today; he's listed as "questionable" for tomorrow's game.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:09 am

We are going to start a team of Sacre, Morris, Ebanks, Meeks and Dwight
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby charvin on Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:16 am

Replace Dwight with Duhon. :man10:

puffyusaf#2 wrote:We are going to start a team of Sacre, Morris, Ebanks, Meeks and Dwight
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:22 am

In the Bucks game, Steve had a great 1st half. He's had a couple of other games where he stood out offensively. Otherwise, he's had a good season. He's never been the best defender. Although, in a team concept, he's not bad. He's signed for two more years, though. Unfortunately, I think we need get a backup PG that Steve can tutor and hand over the reigns when he decides to retire.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby karacha on Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:17 pm

Aaaand.... he looks done.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby trodgers on Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:19 pm

He's had stiffness and spasms for the past few seasons. I really wonder what might've been without that shin fracture. Was averaging 15.4 per game in March.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby karacha on Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:21 pm

Update: hamstring. Well, that might take a while.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby lakersyunowin on Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:38 pm

fly him to phoenix for some treatment
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby karacha on Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:41 pm

Let's see if we can get Rondo next year. :man9:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby Finwë on Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:52 pm

What exactly is wrong with him? haven't been on twitter much these past few days and I must've missed the diagnosis
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby tigerjeterkobe on Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:15 pm

Will he be able to play at all these next 8 games??? Wow. That Wiz game looms large. That and Utah coming back to win in Port
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby trodgers on Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:11 am

He was having muscle spasms in his hips, but tonight it was his hamstring - a strain. Depends upon how serious it is. He is supposed to be examined in LA today. So I'll keep my eyes open for an update.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby nickvanexel on Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:55 am

Still no news for him??
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby clubsoto24 on Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:38 am

He's not playing tonight because of the hip injury.
Jimmy Kimmel asking Kobe about his back pain in an interview:
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby lakersin4 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:16 pm

I'm sorry but he needs to go in the offseason. His health is going downhill fast & he's not going to play up to his potential as long as Kobe is in a Lakers jersey. Kobe demands more defensive attention when he handles the ball & it's easier for him to make plays. Hopefully we can send him home to Canada for Lowry + pieces. If we can't get a younger athletic PG for him maybe we package him with Metta & land a starting SF.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby wcsoldier81 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:44 pm

Yep with Kobe being the PG and the way Blake has shot the 3 , unfortunately Nash isn't that needed ...

Blake isn't a great defender but he's feisty and never gives up while Nash would get owned by any backup PG ...
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby khmrP on Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:28 am

win or lose this year, time to retire...at worst by end of next season. He's not gona last for the 3rd year.
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Re: Steve Nash Discussion: passes Magic in all time assists

Postby karacha on Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:19 am

No, he's not, but we'll keep him for next year and trade his expiring. Nothing wrong with that.
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