Steve Nash Discussion: Epidural Nation

D.B. Cooper · by **D.B. Cooper** on Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:29 pm

Rooscooter wrote:Is it just me or is this starting to look like Malone and 2004 again......

Just you

FabFourLakers · by **FabFourLakers** on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:33 pm

If Nash ends up missing significant time, something like 40 games like Malone did, then YES, it will start to look a lot like Malone in the same sense that Malone was an IRON MAN before he came to the Lakers (missed something like 7 games his entire CAREER) and when he came to the Lakers, he had a "bruised knee" as initial prognosis and then it became oh its more serious and suddenly he was out 3 months. He never quite recovered from it...as he was slowed down by it in the Finals.

Hopefully Nash is back by next week. We need to build that chemistry.

Rooscooter · by **Rooscooter** on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:51 pm

^^oh I agree.... it's not like that yet.... but If I remember correctly Malone was originally out for a couple days.... then a week... then bam.....

Nash has a non-displaced fracture... not sure how severe it is but that doesn't sound like a week for some reason..... My hope is that he comes back AND it doesn't effect him.

We've already got Kobe hurt and Howard and Hill recovering while trying to learn to play together..... yet we can't seem to get together long enough to even start that process.....

KareemTheGreat33 · by **KareemTheGreat33** on Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:11 pm

Roos, you're feeling its another star crossed season where nothing seem to be going right?

I've been following the Lakers for the almost 35 years, I can say that there are years that I am confident they'll win it all (85,87,88,90, 00, 01, 04, 09,10) from the start. Sadly this year, I'm not so sure with Brown at the helm, man.

last stand · by **last stand** on Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:17 am

Rooscooter wrote:^^oh I agree.... it's not like that yet.... but If I remember correctly Malone was originally out for a couple days.... then a week... then bam.....

Nash has a non-displaced fracture... not sure how severe it is but that doesn't sound like a week for some reason..... My hope is that he comes back AND it doesn't effect him.

We've already got Kobe hurt and Howard and Hill recovering while trying to learn to play together..... yet we can't seem to get together long enough to even start that process.....

Karl Malone had a torn mcl. That is a 6-12 month injury. Nashs injury is not anywhere near that serious

FabFourLakers · by **FabFourLakers** on Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:22 am

last stand wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:^^oh I agree.... it's not like that yet.... but If I remember correctly Malone was originally out for a couple days.... then a week... then bam.....

Nash has a non-displaced fracture... not sure how severe it is but that doesn't sound like a week for some reason..... My hope is that he comes back AND it doesn't effect him.

We've already got Kobe hurt and Howard and Hill recovering while trying to learn to play together..... yet we can't seem to get together long enough to even start that process.....

Karl Malone had a torn mcl. That is a 6-12 month injury. Nashs injury is not anywhere near that serious

What roos is trying to say is that INITIALLY, malone's injury wasn't too serious, at least the initial diagnosis wasn't TORN mcl. I believe the Lakers THEN came out with a new diagnosis maybe a week or two later and it was the torn mcl. That's what ROOS is fearing right now with NASH. They're not saying much about it....that's my worry as well. Nash has been a warrior for most of his career and has barely missed games, its just our LUCK that he would get injured as soon as he comes to OUR team. I think that's what he's worried about, as am I, and anybody that's a Laker fan right now should be worrying about that as well.

kray28 · by **kray28** on Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:22 am

Torn MCL is not a 6-12 month injury. For a complete tear, no surgery is needed, and it's a 2 month recovery. Partial tears, based on grade need even less down time.

abeer3 · by **abeer3** on Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:03 am

i see the malone parallel, and it scares me. just gotta hope for the best, and more importantly don't rush him back for any reason. i don't care if the lakers are 5-15, you invested 27 million in the guy over three years (plus whatever that will cost in luxury taxes). take the long view.

dwighthowardsdad · by **dwighthowardsdad** on Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:02 am

The next three games are against Utah, Golden State, and Sacramento; we can win all those three games. November 13th we play against the Spurs. That's the game I hope Steve is back & healthy. I'd like to see how we stack up against the Spurs with all of our starting lineup intact.

kobebryant248 · by **kobebryant248** on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:06 am

guys here always so negative . why can t you guys wait and see what happens instead of constantly whining and complaining . it s not that simular to the malone injury. man i don t get it always so pessimistic. it s a totally different injury. i stay positive and wait till nash comes back.
gosh some lakers fans here are always in panic mode after 4 played games and a little injury from nash . he will comeback and he will be fine.

therealdeal · by **therealdeal** on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:08 am

Rooscooter wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Just you. The other guy we got in that was Payton. We don't have a Payton on this team.

We have a Dwight Howard who's been dominant.

We got Malone..... he got hurt.... he underperformed because of the injury......

We got Nash..... he got hurt.........

Clear now?....

Yeah it was actually clear the first time what you were saying, but the comparison isn't there.

Even if Nash WAS hurt through the season, we're not dependent upon him. We have a system offense that will keep our other working pieces playing well anyway. Our 2004 team outside of Shaq/Kobe/Malone/Payton was pretty bad. Not to mention Payton was pretty damn bad as well.

Not to mention Kobe and Shaq not getting along. We have none of those chemistry issues. If you want to make the comparison, it'd be more like Gasol going down for the season and Nash playing the way he did the first two games throughout the year.

Your comparison doesn't work in my opinion.

dj vitus · by **dj vitus** on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:39 pm

I didn't remember Malone's initial diagnosis being just a bruise. When I saw the injury, it looked pretty bad, and I knew he would be out a long time. Can't have someone fall on your knee and then be back in two weeks.

Nash should be back before December unless something else came along with this injury, which I highly doubt, the way it looked. My biggest fear, as with Roo, is that he might underperform after the injury.

Scnottaken · by **Scnottaken** on Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:09 am

dj vitus wrote:I didn't remember Malone's initial diagnosis being just a bruise. When I saw the injury, it looked pretty bad, and I knew he would be out a long time. Can't have someone fall on your knee and then be back in two weeks.

Nash should be back before December unless something else came along with this injury, which I highly doubt, the way it looked. My biggest fear, as with Roo, is that he might underperform after the injury.

I bet Meeks came at Nash with a bat, thinking maybe that would make brown play him.

last stand · by **last stand** on Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:48 am

kray28 wrote:Torn MCL is not a 6-12 month injury. For a complete tear, no surgery is needed, and it's a 2 month recovery. Partial tears, based on grade need even less down time.

Is that why athletes miss entire seasons with torn mcls

borri · by **borri** on Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:46 am

last stand wrote:
kray28 wrote:Torn MCL is not a 6-12 month injury. For a complete tear, no surgery is needed, and it's a 2 month recovery. Partial tears, based on grade need even less down time.

Is that why athletes miss entire seasons with torn mcls

WTF. Did I miss something here? Why are we talking about torn MCL's in this thread? Too lazy to read the preceding pages.

therealdeal · by **therealdeal** on Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:51 pm

^ References were made to Malone in this thread concerning misdiagnosis. Some are afraid Nash may end up like him.

karacha · by **karacha** on Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:05 pm

Where are we now in terms of his recovery? Any news on how he's doing?

SmoothOperator · by **SmoothOperator** on Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:10 pm

According to: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/417/steve-nash

Steve Nash (leg) traveled with the Lakers for Wednesday's game against the Jazz and will have his recovery timetable re-evaluated Saturday.
Mike Brown said the Lakers brought Nash along so he could have access to the training staff, but noted his status could change any day. This is encouraging news for Nash owners. The point guard's return timeline seems to be shrinking by the day and it's possible Nash could be back sooner rather than later. Nov 7 - 3:19 PM

karacha · by **karacha** on Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:56 pm

Alright, that's great news! He could be back very soon. Skip Utah and maybe Sacto and come back against GSW?

lakerfan2 · by **lakerfan2** on Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:58 pm

Hurry back, can't take watching Morris :hurl:

karacha · by **karacha** on Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:02 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:Hurry back, can't take watching Morris

Don't you worry. Mike will find the way to make Morris our backup SG.

therealdeal · by **therealdeal** on Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:08 pm

Just sit him out another week. I'd say bring him back on the 16th vs. the Suns. :man1:

lakerfan2 · by **lakerfan2** on Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:17 pm

karacha wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:Hurry back, can't take watching Morris

Don't you worry. Mike will find the way to make Morris our backup SG.

Morris will blackmail Potato into starting Center.

last stand · by **last stand** on Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:42 pm

borri wrote:
last stand wrote:
kray28 wrote:Torn MCL is not a 6-12 month injury. For a complete tear, no surgery is needed, and it's a 2 month recovery. Partial tears, based on grade need even less down time.

Is that why athletes miss entire seasons with torn mcls

WTF. Did I miss something here? Why are we talking about torn MCL's in this thread? Too lazy to read the preceding pages.

lol thinking about it, i can see how that would be concerning coming into a thread about nash's leg injury only to read two people discussing the recovery time for a MCL tear :man10:

KareemTheGreat33 · by **KareemTheGreat33** on Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:18 pm

last stand wrote:
borri wrote:
last stand wrote:
kray28 wrote:Torn MCL is not a 6-12 month injury. For a complete tear, no surgery is needed, and it's a 2 month recovery. Partial tears, based on grade need even less down time.

Is that why athletes miss entire seasons with torn mcls

WTF. Did I miss something here? Why are we talking about torn MCL's in this thread? Too lazy to read the preceding pages.

lol thinking about it, i can see how that would be concerning coming into a thread about nash's leg injury only to read two people discussing the recovery time for a MCL tear

Wow Nash has an MCL tear :man6:

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