Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby Weezy on Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:06 pm

We’ve talked to him about trying to be a leader, body language and interaction with referees and that sort of thing because his playing ability speaks for itself, and he’s made a real, concerted effort.


Huh, maybe that partly explains his extremely laid back attitude in these games. He looked better in game 3 overall, and he has shown the ability to get by the defense and get to the hoop and make a layup, get fouled, or make a nice pass when he gets there. It doesn't excuse his mediocre play overall, but I feel like I'd still give him a camp invite, can't hurt. He still shows me NBA abilities even with the seeming lack of aggression or however you want to describe his summer league play in the first 2 games, is what I'm saying.
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby last stand on Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:44 pm

so is snaer a lock for an invite. big SG who plays defense and shoots. might as well have him on the roster
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby trodgers on Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:43 am

last stand wrote:so is snaer a lock for an invite. big SG who plays defense and shoots. might as well have him on the roster

I hope so, on a personal level.

BTW, I was watching video of the Lakers' draftees from 2011 in a computer lab at FSU. Snaer saw clips of Goudelock and came over to check it out - he was impressed. Now, interestingly, Snaer has a chance to take his spot.
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby abeer3 on Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:09 am

am I the only one that sees some of jared Dudley in marcus landry? unathletic, but moves his feet defensively and seems to be in the right spot quite a bit. good set shooter, plays within himself on offense. if he can prove that he has the threeball in nba situations, I think he deserves a roster spot.
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby JSM on Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:17 am

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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:00 am

abeer3 wrote:am I the only one that sees some of jared Dudley in marcus landry? unathletic, but moves his feet defensively and seems to be in the right spot quite a bit. good set shooter, plays within himself on offense. if he can prove that he has the threeball in nba situations, I think he deserves a roster spot.

I think the problem is that Dudley is also an above-average defender and rebounds decently. Dudley works hard to do every little thing he can on the court. I haven't seen evidence of that from Marcus. Marcus strikes me as an offensive player who will provide little defense and I don't see him working as hard as someone like Dudley.

He has been the leading scorer for our team though and I think he's shown that he can shoot at an NBA level. I'd give him a camp invite at this point, but not a roster spot.
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby abeer3 on Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:40 am

what you have seen defensively that worries you about landry? i've seen good things on that end. he looks like the most nba-ready player on the team to me. after him, i can't decide between cdr and hayward.

well, i suppose sacre counts...
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:45 am

abeer3 wrote:what you have seen defensively that worries you about landry? i've seen good things on that end. he looks like the most nba-ready player on the team to me. after him, i can't decide between cdr and hayward.

well, i suppose sacre counts...

Not worried so much as not convinced. I see some good things out there, but not the tenacity that has given Dudley a job over the last few years. Dudley isn't the most gifted player, but he'll probably out work most other players on the court. I'm not convinced Landry can do that.

I'm not opposed to Landry at all. I'd just like to see him get the camp invite so we can see him against some real NBA competition, that's all.
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby last stand on Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:53 pm

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last stand wrote:so is snaer a lock for an invite. big SG who plays defense and shoots. might as well have him on the roster

I hope so, on a personal level.

BTW, I was watching video of the Lakers' draftees from 2011 in a computer lab at FSU. Snaer saw clips of Goudelock and came over to check it out - he was impressed. Now, interestingly, Snaer has a chance to take his spot.


i'd figure the camp invite is a lock. he's a rookie and he's largely shown more than anyone not named marcus landry (who's like 26 years old)

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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby halekulani on Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:42 pm

snaer hit a lot of wild game winning 3's in his college career
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby trodgers on Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:53 pm

I read that he hit 6 gw's overall, the most in NCAA history. Could've been FSU revisionist history though.
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:46 pm

trodgers wrote:I read that he hit 6 gw's overall, the most in NCAA history. Could've been FSU revisionist history though.


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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby JSM on Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:55 pm

Ben Bolch of the LA Times wrote: He won't roll his eyes. He won't shake his head. He won't sigh.

If this is what it takes for Chris Douglas-Roberts to get back into the NBA, well, bring on as many seemingly meaningless games as it takes.

The onetime college star whose professional career once held significant promise now finds himself among hundreds of fringe hopefuls trying to impress in the Las Vegas Summer League.

It's an odd spot for a player who once averaged 17.3 points a game for a month with the New Jersey Nets.

Not that Douglas-Roberts thinks he's above it.

"At this point, I don't have any ego anymore," he said Wednesday night after a practice with the Lakers' summer league team. "I have to pay these dues, wherever they are. If they're in summer league, whatever, I have to pay these dues."

If things work out, Douglas-Roberts will earn an invitation to fall training camp with the Lakers or another team, where he would have to prove himself anew. If not, who knows? The 6-foot-7 swingman concedes he doesn't have a Plan B because he doesn't want it to detract from his focus on Plan A.

He was one of the last players cut in the Lakers' training camp last fall. After scoring as many as 49 points in one game during a brief stint in the Development League, he earned a call-up with the Dallas Mavericks but was waived after six games.

It was just another disappointment in a series of letdowns that started shortly after New Jersey drafted the former Memphis standout early in the second round in 2008. A knee injury limited him to 44 games in his rookie season.

The following season started with promise even though the Nets lost their first 17 games. Douglas-Roberts experienced a breakthrough, scoring in double figures in 20 of the team's first 28 games before he fell out of the rotation.

Kiki Vandeweghe, who was then New Jersey's interim coach, said the emergence of rookie Terrence Williams and the return of a few injured players resulted in reduced playing time for Douglas-Roberts.

"Chris hit a little bit of a confidence bump in the road when Terrence started playing well and Devin Harris got healthy," Vandeweghe said, "so a lot of the guard time was taken up."

The Nets traded Douglas-Roberts the next summer to Milwaukee, where he had a decent season. But with the lockout looming, Douglas-Roberts wanted to make sure he kept playing and signed with Virtus Bologna of the Italian League.

He's barely made a peep in the NBA since then.

A sprained ankle has limited him for two of the Lakers' three summer league games, his averages of eight points and 1.6 assists on the modest side. But Douglas-Roberts said he no longer fashions himself as a prolific scorer, his game having evolved into one that emphasizes versatility.

"I know people expect me to have tremendous scoring numbers, but that's not what I'm here to do, honestly," he said. "I'm just trying to play more of a point-forward role and get guys involved as if I was actually playing on the real team."

Appearances don't matter as much to Douglas-Roberts anymore. He acknowledged having cringed when he was in the Lakers' training camp last fall, his status having taken such a serious hit.

Now he's willing to do whatever it takes, something Vandeweghe said he's noticed while watching his former player in the summer league.

"He's somebody who has matured a great deal and is not only going to utilize his skill in scoring but to make others around him better, and that's something all young players need to learn — to facilitate more, handle the ball, maybe run a team a little bit more," said Vandeweghe, who is the NBA's vice president of basketball operations. "Those are all things that come with time."

At 26, Douglas-Roberts realizes time is one commodity that's no longer in heavy supply when it comes to his making the NBA. He hopes a new attitude results in a different outcome.

"Last year, I kind of had a higher expectation," he said. "But you can't do that. You're never done paying dues and that's how I look at this."
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby trodgers on Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:21 am

Rooscooter wrote:
trodgers wrote:I read that he hit 6 gw's overall, the most in NCAA history. Could've been FSU revisionist history though.


Do you have enough degrees of separation to be putting that out there..... the Athletic Department down there is just this side of the Mob.....

:man10: Sure...I guess.
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby Weezy on Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:55 pm

I really like Marcus Landry, 18 more points today with 5 mins to go in the 4th, also 5 boards, I like his game.
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby therealdeal on Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:02 pm

And he's not in to close the game? What's up with that?
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby Weezy on Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:04 pm

I dunno, I guess they want to see what CDR and Harris have to close. Fun "playoff" game, Hudson tied it up with a nice floater, Sacre with the and one hook to take the lead, hit the free throw, Hudson to Harris for a layup on a fast break to go up 5.

This is Sacre's best game of the summer league by far.
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby therealdeal on Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:05 pm

I like Landry, Douglas-Roberts, and Hudson a lot.

All three should get camp invites.
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby Weezy on Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:08 pm

CDR has made 2 horrible out of bounds passes to close this game, not a good look for teams looking at NBA composure and taking care of the ball.
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby therealdeal on Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:09 pm

CDR had two turnovers late in the game, but Sacre is doing alright. Wish he'd made that second free throw.
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby therealdeal on Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:10 pm

It's over and the Lakers advance. :jam2:
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby therealdeal on Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:11 pm

How about Robert Sacre going 8-9 from the FT line? :jam2:
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby Weezy on Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:12 pm

Still, that was a very good game for Sacre, 16 points, 8 boards. I like this playoff system, gives us more chances to see these guys with potential, see how they play when trying to actually win. They already seem to have a really nice team feeling going on with the starters especially, Hudson, Sacre, Landry, CDR and Harris.
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Re: Summer League / Camp Players Discussion: CDR, Selby

Postby therealdeal on Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:14 pm

Weezy wrote:Still, that was a very good game for Sacre, 16 points, 8 boards. I like this playoff system, gives us more chances to see these guys with potential, see how they play when trying to actually win. They already seem to have a really nice team feeling going on with the starters especially, Hudson, Sacre, Landry, CDR and Harris.

I noticed the drop off in production when we went to our bench... Viney came in and just blew the lead almost single handedly. He had 3 TOs in a row. Selby was unimpressive most of the game, as was most of the bench.

At least from what I could tell. :man10:

I'm not actually watching, just looking at the Play-by-Play.
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