The Lakers continue to overlook Pau Gasol in their offense

MC wrote:trodgers -

how many 7 foot centers are asked to convert to a stretch 4?

How about Nash if he was asked to play PF? would that be Nash's issue to adjust and not coaching?

How about we play Bryant at Center? could he adjust to that so we don't question the coach?

Better yet, lets play Jamison at the 2....... again would it be the players fault?

Bryant has adjusted to his role because he has 2 man or 3 man skill sets............ that is not a stretch. I think we all secretly know trying to make Gasol a stretch 4 was a risky move and it's come out on the disaster side.

Again...... Spain national team seem to get good ball out of Gasol...... and playing beside his brother at that. That good ball was right in between last year and this years NBA season but for a different coaching staff that actually still feature him in his natural spots.

what's the problem here?

oh ya...... 2 coaches that brought in the stretch 4...... 2 man game while everyone else stands still philosophy. Actually, my bag, that is on the OWNERSHIP for wanting pretty fast pace ball instead of thinking about what they have here right in the now.


miss-use of a player is all coaching......... if you put the player in position to succeed and he fails that's a different story. The last 2 years have been nothing but using him just because he's on the roster..... not in a manner that respects he still has very good basketball skills IF he has a coach that will have his back and use him.

MC wrote:^
there is a difference being feature and playing a position for a specific purpose and what the Lakers are doing with Gasol........... that was crystal clear.

It's not about being in the paint all the time..... it's about getting guys in natural spots and Gasol is not just a post player. He has some range...... making him work from the 3 point line however and just spot up and shoot is not one of them.

Bryant has played the 1 this year.......... and his TO rate showed that. Don't get me wrong, he did great for asking him to do what he is not but he still was not efficient as far as a PG goes and last time I checked TO was huge reason for Brown getting canned even though the offense itself was shooting a good % and early in the Princeton process. Sometimes those numbers are deceiving however and easily offset by turning over the ball. You really don't help that by playing guys in uncomfortable positions and all we have done is go to an offense that does just that..... MWP 3 point specialist... Gasol mostly a spacing spreading stretch 4...... Bryant a PG....... Jamison who is stretch 4 occupying the bench keeping it toasty..... Morris a 2 guard....

But lets just ignore all that I guess........ Pau just can't play anymore...... even though we saw it with our own eyes for Spain. Blame Pau for sure.

The off ball player movement is just too genius for it to be the systems we played last year and now this year with MDA...... 3 guys spotting up and sliding around the 3 point line is not exactly what I call off ball player movement but whatever..... we are clearly a jump shooting team so it should work right? lol.

GoldenKnight wrote:Here's what I see:

Pau asks for ball, Pau gets ball, Pau smacks ball with right hand before dribbling in a sign of "let's go" aggressiveness, Pau gets in deep, Pau passes the ball.

This happens 99% of the time while he is in the post.

GoldenKnight wrote:Here's what I see:

Pau asks for ball, Pau gets ball, Pau smacks ball with right hand before dribbling in a sign of "let's go" aggressiveness, Pau gets in deep, Pau passes the ball.

This happens 99% of the time while he is in the post.

MC wrote:^
I haven't watched every single game but I'd say about 90%......

Every possession he is at the 3 point line is a mis- use of Gasol period............. he isn't setting a career mark in three point attempts because he isn't behind the three point line more than he should be.

Glad you like the lol.......

sorry if that last part was a little too much sarcasm for ya but try and dispute it. You see a lot of player movement in MDAs system so far? outside of the 2 man action he tries to create while 3 guys hover around the perimeter?

has nothing to do with pace or anything like that...... it's the way they use the pieces within the half court sets.

and 5 turnovers a game for team struggling in T.Os and giving up transition buckets at the time is doing great for a PG I guess Bryant was great at PG during that time. T.Os and transition looks is what really got the ball rolling for Brown's dismissal..... than it was MDAs system will be easier for these guys and reduce the T.Os........ guess not.

trodgers wrote:Kobe didn't average 5 TO/game. Say true things; it will help us get to the truth of the matter.

Kobe's November: 27.0 points, 5.6 assists, 5.4 rebounds, 4.1 TO, 1.7 Stl, 48-40-88 shooting. That's awesome.

trodgers wrote:But we WERE ecstatic with how Kobe was doing in the role. That's the difference.

MC wrote:

trodgers wrote:But we WERE ecstatic with how Kobe was doing in the role. That's the difference.

really? is that why we fired our coach? because we were pleased with the offensive flow giving up T.Os at an alarming rate which of course led to transition hoops.

I don't think they were pleased at all.... or we wouldn't have heard ....just wait till Nash comes back.

trodgers wrote:

MC wrote:

trodgers wrote:But we WERE ecstatic with how Kobe was doing in the role. That's the difference.

really? is that why we fired our coach? because we were pleased with the offensive flow giving up T.Os at an alarming rate which of course led to transition hoops.

I don't think they were pleased at all.... or we wouldn't have heard ....just wait till Nash comes back.

...with how Kobe was doing in the role...

trodgers wrote:MC, compare what Pau is doing given his skillset with what Kobe did given his. Kobe adapted and pressed on. Pau has whined, pouted, and performed like garbage, both in his traditional role and in his new role.