The Optimistic Thread! (TRD's FREEDOM THREAD!)

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Postby lakerfan2 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:03 am

We had fight. We had guts. Not going to take that away from this team at this point of the season. Very admirable after a such a nightmarish season or injuries and inconsistencies.

1. D'Antoni HAS to make adjustments offensively to attack the double team in the post. We need to get easy baskets instead of relying on "shots to fall". It's part of the Spurs defensive philosophy. They'd rather lose if you're hitting your shots, than to lose from a bunch of easy buckets. That's why you see Pop get furious when they give up a dunk or layup and breakdown defensively.

2. Keep the intensity. Defensively, we're not bad. We kept pace with them while missing shots and turning the ball over.

3. Play physical. They need to take San Antonio out of getting comfortable, because they can score in bunches very fast. Metta needs to shake things up, get a T. Howard has to take some hard fouls in the paint. Push Ginobili around and get him bothered.
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Postby dwighthowardsdad on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:08 am

Make shots, play good defense, limit TO's, and we'll win...
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Postby Chillbongo on Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:36 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:1. D'Antoni HAS to make adjustments offensively to attack the double team in the post. We need to get easy baskets instead of relying on "shots to fall". It's part of the Spurs defensive philosophy. They'd rather lose if you're hitting your shots, than to lose from a bunch of easy buckets. That's why you see Pop get furious when they give up a dunk or layup and breakdown defensively.
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Postby pound4pound1 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:36 am

if Golden State and the Bulls can do it, we can too...we will play better tonight and will steal this one :jam2:
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Postby dj vitus on Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:40 pm

The Lakers have won every game I've attended. I'm attending this Friday's game. The Lakers will win this Friday. :jam2: :jam2: :jam2:
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Postby Scnottaken on Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:05 pm

At home, their shooters will cool down and hopefully not hit every shot that isn't a horse shot.
I want to hear "Beat LA" chants at a Clipper vs Laker game
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Postby Rooscooter on Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:06 pm

dj vitus wrote:The Lakers have won every game I've attended. I'm attending this Friday's game. The Lakers will win this Friday. :jam2: :jam2: :jam2:


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Postby Scnottaken on Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:27 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
dj vitus wrote:The Lakers have won every game I've attended. I'm attending this Friday's game. The Lakers will win this Friday. :jam2: :jam2: :jam2:


Playoff tickets....


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Postby therealdeal on Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:16 am

We had to steal one of those first two games to win this series. I think that as things go we can even this series up and turn this series into a 3 game one, but the chances of that are looking slim thanks mostly to our putrid scoring from anyone not named Steve Blake or Dwight Howard.

This is going to sound like a major cop out, but my optimism level at this moment on this Thursday morning is just looking forward to watching some of the guys play and develop. Guys like Clark, Hill, Goudelock, even Morris, and definitely Howard. The rest I don't give a hoot about and I couldn't care less about what they do in this series.

My optimism is that we'll see some fresh blood step up and do well and maybe make this into 6 game series at least.
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Postby Lakerjones on Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:23 am

^^ I don't think that's at all a copout, realdeal. If we can get some wins at home and make this a 6 game series, I would be ecstatic. I do think it's getting tougher and tougher for us to win though, with the added injuries we keep piling up. I can't believe it. Now Meeks AND Blake . . . and Nash doesn't look like he's got much left in that tank. We basically have no guards left to even suit up. Morris, Glock and Duhon are going to have to get us wins. That's pretty rough.

At least Hill is back though. Very happy about that. We'll take whatever good news we can get.
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Postby therealdeal on Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:47 am

I mean seriously with the injuries...

I've never heard of this before... It's really incredible and you just have to laugh.

Blake, Meeks, and Nash IF they play are all at around 50% basically tomorrow. We're now depending on Morris (who actually has earned my respect so far in this series) and Goudelock... Ouch. :man10:

But I'll have fun watching Howard, Goudelock, Morris, Hill, and Clark developing. They're the young crew that I think has a chance to just out work the Spurs for a win. And they're a bit of a taste of what we'll see in two years.
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Postby kidhell on Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:20 pm

I know this is called the "Optimistic" thread... but the fact is, we are not winning 4 of the next 5 against this team. This season has sucked from day one... even from before day one if you could that fugly preseason. Very bummed to see it go down this way.
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Postby Forward Three on Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:02 pm

It's pretty hard to be optimistic about anything at this point. Yes, the Lakers limped across the finish line and got the 7 seed, but at the cost of losing Kobe, possibly for good, as well as mounting injuries to virtually everyone else on the roster. You have Dwight Howard playing better and seemingly the healthiest he's been all season, and Earl Clark has been as good as we know him to be. Pau hasn't been bad but it's pretty clear that he's playing hurt as he seems to be very conscientious about when and how much effort he gives on any given possession. Metta doesn't seem to be 100% It just goes on and on.

It's sad and it's frustrating. I wonder how people will remember this season for LAL, will it be the season where the Lakers tried to assemble a superstar team only to have it backfire miserably? or will it be remembered as one of the worst injury ridden seasons in Lakers history? The sad part is that even if the team had been completely healthy, we saw so much evidence that they weren't properly prepared and weren't gelling as a team that it's hard to say with certainty things would have been much different regardless of the health status.

I guess, if I had to strain for some optimism, and this is really a stretch at this point, is that I feel good for guys like Earl Clark, Jordan hill, Darius Morris, even Goudelock because they got to have an opportunity to step up for their team and sure they didn't always make it work but still, it's always good to see the depth chart getting a shot.

Horrific season and the really sad part on top of everything else is that there is no guarantee we keep Dwight, there is no guarantee we get Kobe back to start next season, or that when he comes back he won't need 3-4 months to get back into form, or that he'll even ever get back into form. There's no guarantee Pau won't continue his slide into being something of a has-been, and seeing the issues Nash is dealing with lately make it seem like he'd be inclined to want to retire sooner than later if the future of the team isn't clear.

The team could very well blow up, but because LA has traded so many draft picks over the years, how is the FO going to be in a position to rebuild? It's surprisingly not difficult to see this season being the beginning of a dark ages for Lakers fans and for the franchise, and while I have every confidence that the FO and powers at be will mitigate that as much as possible, there's no way the Lakers go 20-odd years without anything to smile about(like the Celtics did) we very well might be staring down at least another 3 or 4 seasons of "We're the bobcats now" caliber basketball.

Which, as if that wasn't enough, this is while the Miami Heat have a golden carpet cakewalk to the Finals every season pretty much.

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Postby dj vitus on Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:31 pm

therealdeal wrote:But I'll have fun watching Howard, Goudelock, Morris, Hill, and Clark developing. They're the young crew that I think has a chance to just out work the Spurs for a win. And they're a bit of a taste of what we'll see in two years.

I've been thinking we all wanted more youth, speed, and athleticism, so here we go! :jam2:
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Postby therealdeal on Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:56 pm

dj vitus wrote:
therealdeal wrote:But I'll have fun watching Howard, Goudelock, Morris, Hill, and Clark developing. They're the young crew that I think has a chance to just out work the Spurs for a win. And they're a bit of a taste of what we'll see in two years.

I've been thinking we all wanted more youth, speed, and athleticism, so here we go! :jam2:

With Jodie and the Steves all either doubtful or out... Yeah. :man10:

Morris/Goudelock/Artest/Gasol/Howard

Duhon/Clark/Jamison/Hill

:jam2:

I'm very, very honestly looking forward to a lineup of: Morris/Goudelock/Clark/Hill/Howard. I want to see it. I feel like it could be a ton of fun for us. Young, athletic, energetic. No one on that team is over 27.
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Postby Weezy on Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:02 pm

therealdeal wrote:
dj vitus wrote:
therealdeal wrote:But I'll have fun watching Howard, Goudelock, Morris, Hill, and Clark developing. They're the young crew that I think has a chance to just out work the Spurs for a win. And they're a bit of a taste of what we'll see in two years.

I've been thinking we all wanted more youth, speed, and athleticism, so here we go! :jam2:

With Jodie and the Steves all either doubtful or out... Yeah. :man10:

Morris/Goudelock/Artest/Gasol/Howard

Duhon/Clark/Jamison/Hill

:jam2:

I'm very, very honestly looking forward to a lineup of: Morris/Goudelock/Clark/Hill/Howard. I want to see it. I feel like it could be a ton of fun for us. Young, athletic, energetic. No one on that team is over 27.


I know this is your thread and you're our resident optimist, but I don't believe that even you believe what you just wrote these last 2 posts. :man10: Sure it could be a ton of fun, but most likely it's an offensive disaster as not one of the players in that lineup can really get their own shot consistently or have any offensive game other than Glock. But to be optimistic...um...hmm... oh, at leash Nash and Blake's suffering is over.
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Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:04 pm

I'm just wishing this season to be over. I'll be going to Game 3, rootin and cheerin for the boys and hope they put up a fight without straining themselves. I'm good for one playoff win this year, enough with the stress.
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Postby therealdeal on Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:08 pm

Weezy wrote:
I know this is your thread and you're our resident optimist, but I don't believe that even you believe what you just wrote these last 2 posts. :man10: Sure it could be a ton of fun, but most likely it's an offensive disaster as not one of the players in that lineup can really get their own shot consistently or have any offensive game other than Glock. But to be optimistic...um...hmm... oh, at leash Nash and Blake's suffering is over.

Hm... Let me put it in perspective.

I look forward to watching it because the alternative is watching a collection of broken old men failing in the playoffs.

At least with the YOUNG group we see some running, some energy on defense, some talking, some swagger.

But yes obviously I'm not as excited as I would be to watch, say, a good team play. :man10:
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Postby dj vitus on Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:13 pm

We'll just have to put up with a lot of "I don't know what to do with the ball" moments.

A lot of ISOs, too, with Dwight, Pau, and Metta all clogging the paint--right where the Spurs want us.

Duhon's the only guy who can remotely run an offense, so we'll see a lot of him, and thus a lot of open 3's from the Spurs since he can't fight through a pick to save his life. But hey, let's just hope they miss! :jam2:
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Postby SpencerHarrison on Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:10 am

Good for the team for staying focused and delivering down the regular season stretch. They played with dignity through some tough times.

I think Kobe is going to recover and return to fine form. This season was karmic and snakebitten, but I believe each player has come through that challenge humbled and more focused. Except maybe Ebanks lol.

Kobe and D12 can be deadly next year, and I'm ver optimistic.
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Postby LooN3y on Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:06 am

I feel like this is deservent of the optimistic thread, I hate these guys, they're floppers, we should of damn had one of those guys


I loved them in the Eric Gordon era, hated them in cp3 era, but they''re an LA team I give them my best wishes
If we had hope till the Kobe injury then they damn sure have an opportunity as well.

I can't actually say what I mean, but something along the lines as we have another tea, in the playoffs for LA



I feel like a fool about how much faith n this team no matter how far we dropped.


Next year ftw
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Postby therealdeal on Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:06 am

F*** the Clippers.
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Postby pound4pound1 on Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:07 am

LooN3y wrote:I feel like this is deservent of the optimistic thread, I hate these guys, they're floppers, we should of damn had one of those guys


I loved them in the Eric Gordon era, hated them in cp3 era, but they''re an LA team I give them my best wishes
If we had hope till the Kobe injury then they damn sure have an opportunity as well.

I can't actually say what I mean, but something along the lines as we have another tea, in the playoffs for LA



I feel like a fool about how much faith n this team no matter how far we dropped.


Next year ftw





you know, i came in here to drop my optimistic thought going into tonight...something along the lines of 'a funny thing happened on the way to getting swept, the lakers won their home games and we now have a series'


and i read THIS crap


no offense homey but F(!) the Clippers AND all their fans...please take this garbage post elsewhere
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Postby pound4pound1 on Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:08 am

there is only ONE team in LA...and it's not the one flopping around in Memphis
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Postby revgen on Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:40 pm

Things are looking bleak. But I still have a positive feeling about this. Cross fingers.
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