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Re: this pathetic defensive effort proves 1 thing:

Postby 100%effort on Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:40 am

We're not on the same page defensively and it was evident before the first preseason game was played. Dwight stated he wants everyone to try to stay in front of their man. Kobe stated we can be more aggressive on the perimeter and funnel everything to Dwight.
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Re: this pathetic defensive effort proves 1 thing:

Postby hollywood swinger on Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:45 am

100%effort wrote:We're not on the same page defensively and it was evident before the first preseason game was played. Dwight stated he wants everyone to try to stay in front of their man. Kobe stated we can be more aggressive on the perimeter and funnel everything to Dwight.


kobe is a defensive idiot.
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Re: this pathetic defensive effort proves 1 thing:

Postby kenzo on Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:48 am

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100%effort wrote:We're not on the same page defensively and it was evident before the first preseason game was played. Dwight stated he wants everyone to try to stay in front of their man. Kobe stated we can be more aggressive on the perimeter and funnel everything to Dwight.


kobe is a defensive idiot.

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Re: this pathetic defensive effort proves 1 thing:

Postby hollywood swinger on Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:00 pm

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revgen wrote:Hill is a shotblocker. He is blocking 0.9 shots in 15 mpg. That's 2.0 blocks a game per 36 minutes. And he's way more cost-effective than picking up Smith.

Ebanks isn't soft on defense. He's not great either, but he has the size, length, and speed and does an adequate job utilizing these attributes.


ebanks sucks


He's a typical bench player. Nice attributes, but not always consistent.


forgot to mention that duhon sucks even worse
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Postby lakerfan2 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:09 pm

duhon sucks? :man3:

he's been our most consistent PG to date. blake? no. morris? hell no. nash is injured.

hitting outside shots, not turning the ball over. playing decent defense.
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Re: this pathetic defensive effort proves 1 thing:

Postby hollywood swinger on Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:40 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:duhon sucks? :man3:

he's been our most consistent PG to date. blake? no. morris? hell no. nash is injured.

hitting outside shots, not turning the ball over. playing decent defense.


being our best pg isn't saying much seeing nash hasn't played. have you seen his lazy passes that get other teams in transition?
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Re: this pathetic defensive effort proves 1 thing:

Postby therealdeal on Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:06 pm

The pathetic defensive effort proves 1 thing: we're not trying hard defensively.
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Re: this pathetic defensive effort proves 1 thing:

Postby lakerfan2 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:16 pm

hollywood swinger wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:duhon sucks? :man3:

he's been our most consistent PG to date. blake? no. morris? hell no. nash is injured.

hitting outside shots, not turning the ball over. playing decent defense.


being our best pg isn't saying much seeing nash hasn't played. have you seen his lazy passes that get other teams in transition?


a few, but i do see he's moving the ball nicely getting more assists did in one game, than blake or morris have in their tenure with the lakers. he's confidently taking his open shots and makes the right entry passes to dwight.

i have no problem with the duhon is playing.

ebanks on the other hand has no business on the court. outside his length, and a decent midrange game, he really comes off as a lethargic defender.
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Postby therealdeal on Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:21 pm

Yeah last I checked Duhon either lead or was among the leaders in assist-turnover ratios. He takes good care of the ball.
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Re: this pathetic defensive effort proves 1 thing:

Postby revgen on Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:29 pm

therealdeal wrote:The pathetic defensive effort proves 1 thing: we're not trying hard defensively.


Can you name a group of older players who played consistent defense while pushing the pace like D'Antoni is trying to do? I can't think of too many. 00's Pistons, 3-peat Lakers, 00 Spurs, 08 Celtics, etc all payed D by slowing it down, so they could play D on less possessions and save their legs.

It's young teams like the OKC Thunder who can play D while pushing the pace.

D'Antoni even remarked in a postgame interview that "too many guys are taking possessions off". Maybe that's a sign that you need less possessions.
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Re: this pathetic defensive effort proves 1 thing:

Postby hollywood swinger on Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:24 pm

revgen wrote:
therealdeal wrote:The pathetic defensive effort proves 1 thing: we're not trying hard defensively.


Can you name a group of older players who played consistent defense while pushing the pace like D'Antoni is trying to do? I can't think of too many. 00's Pistons, 3-peat Lakers, 00 Spurs, 08 Celtics, etc all payed D by slowing it down, so they could play D on less possessions and save their legs.

It's young teams like the OKC Thunder who can play D while pushing the pace.

D'Antoni even remarked in a postgame interview that "too many guys are taking possessions off". Maybe that's a sign that you need less possessions.

time to make some trades then.
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