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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby 24K GOLD on Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:00 am

kray28 wrote:Lakers will be paying a good portion of that to the small market owners who think that it's the Lakers' responsibility to subsidize their poor talent management and fiscal decision making skills.

How much of the $200m/annum will go to scumbags like Dan Gilbert?

I don't think it's right for the Lakers to pay for all of their mistakes. The Lakers built their franchise by being wise, and those too stupid deserve to be left suffering.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby 24K GOLD on Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:03 am

Weezy wrote:Um... not legally. You can only offer what you have to offer under the rules, in our case the mini MLE and the minimum. All the 5 billion would mean is that maybe they'd be more willing to pay the luxury tax for a winnig team.

That still bodes well for us, right? I mean we still have money to spend. By "not legally" you mean that we can't splash mega-contracts for players if we're over the cap?
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:14 am

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Weezy wrote:Um... not legally. You can only offer what you have to offer under the rules, in our case the mini MLE and the minimum. All the 5 billion would mean is that maybe they'd be more willing to pay the luxury tax for a winnig team.

That still bodes well for us, right? I mean we still have money to spend. By "not legally" you mean that we can't splash mega-contracts for players if we're over the cap?

All the Cap rules still apply.

For instance, the TV deal can land the Lakers an extra 10 million in pure revenue a year, but that may not have any direct effect on contracts we are allowed to offer to players. An example: we cannot offer JO a deal worth 5 million a year because it is against the rules of the CBA, even if we have the money to do it because of the TV deal.

What the new TV deal may mean is that the Lakers are slightly more willing to offer larger contracts to players already on their team. An example: we're far above the luxury tax with our current roster, but because we're also making more money from the TV deal, we may be willing to pay Jordan Hill 3 million a year (most we can offer under the CBA) even though he'd be a small-bit role player. Whereas without the TV deal we would not be willing to offer that contract because it would be too costly.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby 24K GOLD on Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:18 am

So in a nutshell, the TWC mega-deal will allow the front office to overpay current Lakers if needed, but it will not give us the green light to splash.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:21 am

24K GOLD wrote:So in a nutshell, the TWC mega-deal will allow the front office to overpay current Lakers if needed, but it will not give us the green light to splash.

We're just not allowed to splash because we're restricted by the CBA rules. In a few years when all of our contracts are gone, we'll be splashing big time.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby kray28 on Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:24 am

24K GOLD wrote:
kray28 wrote:Lakers will be paying a good portion of that to the small market owners who think that it's the Lakers' responsibility to subsidize their poor talent management and fiscal decision making skills.

How much of the $200m/annum will go to scumbags like Dan Gilbert?

I don't think it's right for the Lakers to pay for all of their mistakes. The Lakers built their franchise by being wise, and those too stupid deserve to be left suffering.


Lakers will be paying out something like $50-$60 million in tax and revenue sharing if they continue with the payroll they have right now.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby 24K GOLD on Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:25 am

therealdeal wrote:In a few years when all of our contracts are gone, we'll be splashing big time.

I think that's gonna be 2014. Pau, Bynum and Kobe will all be off the books.

Still, I find it infuriating that we have to pay a lot for other team's mistakes. The Lakers should have done all their power to do a "The Veto" on this stupid provision. We'll have less money to splash for players because of this.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby 24K GOLD on Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:26 am

kray28 wrote:Lakers will be paying out something like $50-$60 million in tax and revenue sharing if they continue with the payroll they have right now.

WHAT????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:47 am

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therealdeal wrote:In a few years when all of our contracts are gone, we'll be splashing big time.

I think that's gonna be 2014. Pau, Bynum and Kobe will all be off the books.

Still, I find it infuriating that we have to pay a lot for other team's mistakes. The Lakers should have done all their power to do a "The Veto" on this stupid provision. We'll have less money to splash for players because of this.

Yes, but without the NBA they're making nothing anyway. Not to mention, with the TV deal they probably felt more comfortable with the CBA moving forward.

Sometimes it's better to concede something you don't necessarily want to instead of being stubborn and getting nothing at all.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Battle Tested20 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:07 pm

I read the answer on Page 3 in regards to whether or not people who can't get TWC in SoCal (San Diego) be able to still watch home Lakers games, but if I have DirectTV or Cox would channel would the games be on??

I'm sure most of us don't know and they TWC just keeps saying that they are already in discussions with these cable providers about offering these SportsNet Channels.

I'm also curious to know and to find out what you all think as to when an agreement might take place?? whats your opinion on this matter??

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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby purp n gold on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:11 pm

So will Cox Communications pick up the Lakers Channel? That's all I really want to know.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:19 pm

purp n gold wrote:So will Cox Communications pick up the Lakers Channel? That's all I really want to know.


Bleep that....all I want to know is will Charter pick it up? :man10:
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby GoldenKnight on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:27 pm

I have TWC so.... :man12:
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby last stand on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:28 pm

Is direct tv picking it up. Supposedly twc is going to charge an arm and a leg for it
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby GinoDB on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:30 pm

last stand wrote:Is direct tv picking it up. Supposedly twc is going to charge an arm and a leg for it

they better, or they will lose big if they dont
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby last stand on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:33 pm

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last stand wrote:Is direct tv picking it up. Supposedly twc is going to charge an arm and a leg for it

they better, or they will lose big if they dont


Itll be interesting because the lakers are a huge ratings draw in California
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby KB8SD on Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:07 pm

DirecTV I have no doubt they will come to an agreement with TWC to carry the channel.They pride & market themselves as "The Undisputed Leader in Sports"

TV providers I can see them having a problem negotiating with and causing a hold out and loss of games are the smaller Cable & Telco providers like Charter,Cox,Verizon Fios, AT&T U-Verse and Dish Network.

Reason I say that is that down here in San Diego the Padres this season signed a new TV deal and launched Fox Sports San Diego and right now Fox Sports is in a nasty contract dispute with Time Warner Cable and AT&T U-Verse and they aren't carrying the channel right now.

Dish Network always has issues over carrying channels and fees since they market themselves as being the cheapest TV provider.They just lost AMC and have no plans of bring the channel back.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Battle Tested20 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:57 pm

I guess we just have to pray and hope that they reach agreenments with these Cable Companies before the season starts or else I'll have to go bar hoping when the Lakers play at home just to see the games as they will be blocked on the League Pass because they would be considered local channels for me in San Diego.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Mr_Hollywood_Line on Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:05 am

GoldenKnight wrote:I have TWC so.... :man12:


Will those of us who already have basic cable with TWC have to pay extra to add the channel?

That's what I'd like to know.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:23 am

Mr_Hollywood_Line wrote:
GoldenKnight wrote:I have TWC so.... :man12:


Will those of us who already have basic cable with TWC have to pay extra to add the channel?

That's what I'd like to know.


If you don't have digital cable then yes
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Mr_Hollywood_Line on Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:31 am

CaCHooKa Man wrote:
Mr_Hollywood_Line wrote:
GoldenKnight wrote:I have TWC so.... :man12:


Will those of us who already have basic cable with TWC have to pay extra to add the channel?

That's what I'd like to know.


If you don't have digital cable then yes


I have digital cable with TWC, so I should be good, no?
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:51 am

As long as you have a major cable provider, you should pretty much be in good shape.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Scnottaken on Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:29 am

Mr_Hollywood_Line wrote:I have digital cable with TWC, so I should be good, no?

What I'm wondering is what package would you have to buy to get it from TWC. (does TWC HAVE packages for TV?)
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Finwë on Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:33 am

Battle Tested20 wrote:I guess we just have to pray and hope that they reach agreenments with these Cable Companies before the season starts or else I'll have to go bar hoping when the Lakers play at home just to see the games as they will be blocked on the League Pass because they would be considered local channels for me in San Diego.

How about league pass broadband? Drop league pass for TV and pick up broadband league pass... You can connect your computer to your TV and you hardly tell the difference.. You'll get every single game, and you can watch them live, on demand; you can pause & rewind; you can watch up to 4 games at a time.. If you have a good internet connection you should get HD quality for every game.
Just throwing an idea out there. I live in Argentina and I have international broadband league pass. It's brilliant. I never miss a game.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:46 am

Scnottaken wrote:
Mr_Hollywood_Line wrote:I have digital cable with TWC, so I should be good, no?

What I'm wondering is what package would you have to buy to get it from TWC. (does TWC HAVE packages for TV?)


it should probably be included since its a local sports network
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