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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:40 am

OX1947 wrote:
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OX1947 wrote:
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Psychobroker wrote:Ultimately, I blame the Lakers for jumping into bed with TW at this point.


Why? It was a multi-billion dollar bed that allows ridiculous freedom for them. It was a great deal from the Lakers' end.


What the hell is the point if you CAN'T WATCH IT?

Oh, here's a million dollars for your family, but you can't spend it on your family. You get it?

The Lakers are to blame for this more then anyone. They made the deal, they knew Time Warner would hold everyone hostage. The worse part is Time Warner is a pathetic excuse for a company that gives not a flying (bleep) stain for it's customers.

It's October 15th. There isn't even one hint of anything going on. Not good news. They will drag this into the regular season and Laker fans will miss games. I havent missed a game in years. So, seems to me, the Lakers or these (bleep) holes at TWC don't care if you do. Well, if that is the case, they can shove it up their butt holes.


Because you WILL WATCH IT. You're missing the pre-season which sucks anyway. Calm down.

When the time comes for games you'll either see all of them or miss very few. The Lakers made a TERRIFIC decision here. They're set financially for Dr. Buss's eventual death. They're even set with the Lakers bloated payroll this and next season.

You are thinking far too short term if you're going to be this upset in the pre-season. If you had already missed half the regular season games or some playoff games or something I'd understand the depth of your anger, but right now it makes no sense.


TWC didnt have NFL network for 8 years. They already have screwed so many PAC 12 fans not getting that channel out, if you think they wont screw you to high heaven with the new Laker channel, you are kidding yourself. I am looking at track records here, not being pessimistic. TWC is notorious for screwing people over in every way a tv provider can screw you. From customer service, to product, to programming, to everything you can think of that is bad in a business, TWC does it. They offer nothing and raise prices. That's all they know how to do. I walked into TWC commercial building near my house one time to get a new box because the trash can they put in my house during installation looked like someone wiped their arse with. The FOB's in there were the biggest pile of dolts you could imagine. I thought I had walked into a check cashing store. It was like morgue with zero personality everywhere.

If there is a deal done before the season, I will be the first to admit I am wrong, but usually my gut is rarely wrong. My guess is they will burn everyone before they get a deal done and from the looks of it, most of everyone is falling for it. Sad.


TWC has nothing to do with directv not having the pac 12 network. they dont want to pay the 80 cents or whatever it is per subscriber and they dont want to provide the channel the way the pac 12 wants them to. directv wants to provide it as a standalone subscription channel instead of giving it to everyone on an existing package. kind of like the situation with time warner sportsnet.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby kosstick on Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:32 am

Lol at the guys saying Lakers should NOT have signed this deal.. This was money on the floor for them and they picked it up. As far as people complaining about not having it yet just relax we will have it by the end of the month. Direct Tv is the top provider in socal no way they get left behind
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Lakerjones on Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:14 am

It's a sucky situation. I wish DirecTV would get it done. I knew it would stretch out for all of the preseason, but I just want some indication that it will actually get resolved by the regular season. And of course there is no assurance of that at all. This is seriously screwing with me now.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby CarFlagChris on Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:28 am

Will any of the cable companies loose $$$ by NOT carrying the Lakers?
How much more $$$ will they gain?
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby XXIV on Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:17 am

I'd gladly pay the $3.95 a month to have the Lakers channel, but I'm sure for those who don't watch the Lakers it's an unnecessary cost. Perhaps they should make it optional?
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby OX1947 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:04 am

XXIV wrote:I'd gladly pay the $3.95 a month to have the Lakers channel, but I'm sure for those who don't watch the Lakers it's an unnecessary cost. Perhaps they should make it optional?


And that has been my entire argument about what pieces of crap TWC is. They want every subscriber, those who do not even care about the Lakers, to pay for a channel they wont watch. And we all thumb it up to "it's business". Yah, let's be greedy mother (bleep) and then when we are in the middle of November and everyone is complaining, then we will relent. How bout you do the right damn thing at the beginning and give the (bleep) channel to those who want it and leave the people who don't alone.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Psychobroker on Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:53 am

OX1947 wrote:
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Psychobroker wrote:Ultimately, I blame the Lakers for jumping into bed with TW at this point.


Why? It was a multi-billion dollar bed that allows ridiculous freedom for them. It was a great deal from the Lakers' end.


What the hell is the point if you CAN'T WATCH IT?

Oh, here's a million dollars for your family, but you can't spend it on your family. You get it?

The Lakers are to blame for this more then anyone. They made the deal, they knew Time Warner would hold everyone hostage. The worse part is Time Warner is a pathetic excuse for a company that gives not a flying (bleep) stain for it's customers.

It's October 15th. There isn't even one hint of anything going on. Not good news. They will drag this into the regular season and Laker fans will miss games. I havent missed a game in years. So, seems to me, the Lakers or these (bleep) holes at TWC don't care if you do. Well, if that is the case, they can shove it up their butt holes.


This. The Lakers basically sold out the fans (again) to justify putting more $$ on payroll. And like good drug addicts, most will follow wherever they need to go to get their fix. Personally, I'd pay the $3.95 / month price tag for all of the content provided -- all that stuff is worth it to me -- but that decision (to buy) is out of my hands, and that's because both the Lakers and TW overvalued their monopoly (so far).

Ultimately, they are a private company selling a product which I cannot buy. They had to know it would get to this point and they had to know the providers would never offer a la carte programming, so their $3B deal is on the backs of plenty of cable/satellite subscribers who could care less about the Lakers.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby therealdeal on Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:27 pm

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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby OX1947 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:42 pm

lakerswiz wrote:
OX1947 wrote:And that has been my entire argument about what pieces of crap TWC is. They want every subscriber, those who do not even care about the Lakers, to pay for a channel they wont watch.

You do realize that's how Cable TV works, right?


Yah, and that's why I do not have cable anymore. Keep working!!!
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby JGC on Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:30 pm

OX1947 wrote:
lakerswiz wrote:
OX1947 wrote:And that has been my entire argument about what pieces of crap TWC is. They want every subscriber, those who do not even care about the Lakers, to pay for a channel they wont watch.

You do realize that's how Cable TV works, right?


Yah, and that's why I do not have cable anymore. Keep working!!!


Ahhh so it's not REALLY TWC specifically you have an issue with then.

It is Cable TV in general? I'm pretty sure somewhere else you said you have a personal beef with TWC, which I think was more than fair for you to disclaim so at least people know why you seem so psychotic about this company.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby LTLakerFan on Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:37 pm

JGC wrote:
OX1947 wrote:
lakerswiz wrote:
OX1947 wrote:And that has been my entire argument about what pieces of crap TWC is. They want every subscriber, those who do not even care about the Lakers, to pay for a channel they wont watch.

You do realize that's how Cable TV works, right?


Yah, and that's why I do not have cable anymore. Keep working!!!


Ahhh so it's not REALLY TWC specifically you have an issue with then.

It is Cable TV in general? I'm pretty sure somewhere else you said you have a personal beef with TWC, which I think was more than fair for you to disclaim so at least people know why you seem so psychotic about this company.



:man10: No offense to OX1947 because I'm righteously pissed too I don't have it yet. But that was just funny.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby OX1947 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:38 pm

JGC wrote:
OX1947 wrote:
lakerswiz wrote:
OX1947 wrote:And that has been my entire argument about what pieces of crap TWC is. They want every subscriber, those who do not even care about the Lakers, to pay for a channel they wont watch.

You do realize that's how Cable TV works, right?


Yah, and that's why I do not have cable anymore. Keep working!!!


Ahhh so it's not REALLY TWC specifically you have an issue with then.

It is Cable TV in general? I'm pretty sure somewhere else you said you have a personal beef with TWC, which I think was more than fair for you to disclaim so at least people know why you seem so psychotic about this company.


There is no company I hate more then TWC. So, finding out my most favorite thing in the world, the Lakers, joined forces with them, automatically ruined the excitement because I knew what was coming. I knew something was gonna get messed up. So, now, I still have those (bleep) in my life and are holding us hostage with their bullcrap.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Lakerman JSJ on Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:41 pm

Is this really worth getting upset over with 2 whole weeks til the regular season begins? These companies all know that it's simply bad business to not allow the greater LA area to see their Lakers. I'm still quite confident this will be sorted out before then.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby OX1947 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:42 pm

LTLakerFan wrote:
JGC wrote:
OX1947 wrote:
lakerswiz wrote:
OX1947 wrote:And that has been my entire argument about what pieces of crap TWC is. They want every subscriber, those who do not even care about the Lakers, to pay for a channel they wont watch.

You do realize that's how Cable TV works, right?


Yah, and that's why I do not have cable anymore. Keep working!!!


Ahhh so it's not REALLY TWC specifically you have an issue with then.

It is Cable TV in general? I'm pretty sure somewhere else you said you have a personal beef with TWC, which I think was more than fair for you to disclaim so at least people know why you seem so psychotic about this company.



:man10: No offense to OX1947 because I'm righteously pissed too I don't have it yet. But that was just funny.


It's not about being psychotic, it's about being shaken down. I do not like being shaken down.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby OX1947 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:44 pm

Lakerman JSJ wrote:Is this really worth getting upset over with 2 whole weeks til the regular season begins? These companies all know that it's simply bad business to not allow the greater LA area to see their Lakers. I'm still quite confident this will be sorted out before then.


Track record says otherwise. That's what I'm going by. Personal experience and their history of screwing people. I am hoping to be wrong like never before. I want to watch my Lakers.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby therealdeal on Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:46 pm

Lakerman JSJ wrote:Is this really worth getting upset over with 2 whole weeks til the regular season begins? These companies all know that it's simply bad business to not allow the greater LA area to see their Lakers. I'm still quite confident this will be sorted out before then.

I mean in reality this is all simple business procedure. It's nothing out of the ordinary. We just have a personal stake in it so some people are taking it personally... Everything about this is perfectly normal and will be sorted out.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Lakerman JSJ on Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:03 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Lakerman JSJ wrote:Is this really worth getting upset over with 2 whole weeks til the regular season begins? These companies all know that it's simply bad business to not allow the greater LA area to see their Lakers. I'm still quite confident this will be sorted out before then.


I mean in reality this is all simple business procedure. It's nothing out of the ordinary. We just have a personal stake in it so some people are taking it personally... Everything about this is perfectly normal and will be sorted out.


Agreed. Additionally, business negotiations like this tend to speed up as leverage is increased as we near deadlines (the start of the regular season being the unofficial deadline in this instance).

No guarantees, and I certainly have some concern about this, but I feel like it's much more likely they figure it out sooner than later.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Vasashi17 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:19 pm

Lakerman JSJ wrote:Is this really worth getting upset over with 2 whole weeks til the regular season begins? These companies all know that it's simply bad business to not allow the greater LA area to see their Lakers. I'm still quite confident this will be sorted out before then.


Completely agree! Ideally, I check into this thread to see any updates on resolutions on this matter and instead we see alot of dismay (and rightfully so) amongst frustrated Lakers fans.

Going on the assumption that most here, at the very least, have basic cable, then tonight's and Friday's preseason games will have to be streamed online. NBATV will carry Sunday's Kings game and Wednesday's (10/24) Clippers game. Unfortunately Thursday's (10/25) Kings game is not carried and must be streamed online again..but then the first 3 regular season games are covered by TNT, NBATV and ESPN respectively. It is not until Nov. 4th's Detroit game that we have to worry about finding something outside of basic cable to view Lakers games (that matter).

So hang in there fam....we have till Nov. 4th to really get this ironed out and like JSJ said, I'm sure it will.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby therealdeal on Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:24 pm

Lakerman JSJ wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
Lakerman JSJ wrote:Is this really worth getting upset over with 2 whole weeks til the regular season begins? These companies all know that it's simply bad business to not allow the greater LA area to see their Lakers. I'm still quite confident this will be sorted out before then.


I mean in reality this is all simple business procedure. It's nothing out of the ordinary. We just have a personal stake in it so some people are taking it personally... Everything about this is perfectly normal and will be sorted out.


Agreed. Additionally, business negotiations like this tend to speed up as leverage is increased as we near deadlines (the start of the regular season being the unofficial deadline in this instance).

No guarantees, and I certainly have some concern about this, but I feel like it's much more likely they figure it out sooner than later.

Yeah I mean there's too much on the table for people to lose out for too long. I mean as much as TWC spent for these rights, you have to understand they're going to want to get their return on investment. And of course the others are going to want to keep costs low for their customers because that's what good companies do.

It's all going to work out fairly soon here. And ^^ is a great point. We don't necessarily NEED it until the 4th which is 3 weeks away. We've got time.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Weezy on Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:19 pm

It's a cable company, it's not a corrupt, evil government or something dang. I hate that I can't see the Lakers right now, but I'd watch every single game this season on an online stream if it means the Lakers had the money to put this team together and go for a title. It sucks we might miss some games, but really is it not worth it to have a team this good?
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby XXIV on Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:51 pm

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Lakers game channel 754 DirecTV yeeeeeeee


This tweet was retweeted by Pincus, I'm not sure if it's true.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby OX1947 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:54 pm

XXIV wrote:
LA_LakersNews ‏@LA_LakersNews
Lakers game channel 754 DirecTV yeeeeeeee


This tweet was retweeted by Pincus, I'm not sure if it's true.


It's true, it's on 754. I am assuming its the Utah feed. We will see if they black it out or not in about a half hour.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby XXIV on Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:56 pm

I'm confused here, did DirecTV come to an agreement with TWC?
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby OX1947 on Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:58 pm

XXIV wrote:I'm confused here, did DirecTV come to an agreement with TWC?


No, its league pass channel.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby XXIV on Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:00 pm

Ah alright. :man5:
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