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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby KBJelleyBean24 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:31 am

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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby JGC on Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:37 am

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Johnnyboy wrote:Spoke to Cox today. They said that they can't speculate, BUT they don't think a deal will be done in time for the first game because Cox has "bent over" a ton and TWC won't budge on anything and Cox is willing to play hardball. Not sure how much weight that holds, but that's what they said.


Noooooooo, really? hahahaha. It will be an eventful season ruined by greed and business practices that some will continue to support for the sake of "It's business". I guess, doing the right thing and doing something decent for supporters and customers doesn't mean a hill of beans, you know, because "it's business".


I don't think there is anything wrong with what the Lakers have done. If you think the Lakers are so greedy why not support the Clippers or something?

What is so wrong with what the Lakers have done? Because you can't watch preseason games??
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby therealdeal on Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:07 am

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Johnnyboy wrote:Spoke to Cox today. They said that they can't speculate, BUT they don't think a deal will be done in time for the first game because Cox has "bent over" a ton and TWC won't budge on anything and Cox is willing to play hardball. Not sure how much weight that holds, but that's what they said.


Noooooooo, really? hahahaha. It will be an eventful season ruined by greed and business practices that some will continue to support for the sake of "It's business". I guess, doing the right thing and doing something decent for supporters and customers doesn't mean a hill of beans, you know, because "it's business".

:man10:

Seriously? That's not really veiled because I'm the only one who's used that sentence multiple times... Who's doing the wrong thing? Is TWC wrong for buying the channel? Why is that wrong? They paid an exorbitant amount of money for the rights to the channel. Why shouldn't they ask for something in return? The money they used to pay for the channel is almost directly responsible for the team not worrying about luxury taxes this season. Is that wrong?

Is Cox wrong because they don't want to ask an extra 4-5 dollars a month for the service? An extra 4-5 dollars on top of 50 or 70 or 90 bucks a month, that's going to keep thousands of Laker fans from seeing their team play. Who's being selfish there? An extra 5 bucks a month doesn't account for much when you're already paying that high of a bill.

This is all business and if you don't like it, I'm sorry but maybe you don't have much experience in business. Each party is going to do what's best for themselves. They're all to blame as much as they're all blameless. But please continue to ceaselessly bash TWC and mock me.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby OX1947 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:02 am

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OX1947 wrote:
Johnnyboy wrote:Spoke to Cox today. They said that they can't speculate, BUT they don't think a deal will be done in time for the first game because Cox has "bent over" a ton and TWC won't budge on anything and Cox is willing to play hardball. Not sure how much weight that holds, but that's what they said.


Noooooooo, really? hahahaha. It will be an eventful season ruined by greed and business practices that some will continue to support for the sake of "It's business". I guess, doing the right thing and doing something decent for supporters and customers doesn't mean a hill of beans, you know, because "it's business".

:man10:

Seriously? That's not really veiled because I'm the only one who's used that sentence multiple times... Who's doing the wrong thing? Is TWC wrong for buying the channel? Why is that wrong? They paid an exorbitant amount of money for the rights to the channel. Why shouldn't they ask for something in return? The money they used to pay for the channel is almost directly responsible for the team not worrying about luxury taxes this season. Is that wrong?

Is Cox wrong because they don't want to ask an extra 4-5 dollars a month for the service? An extra 4-5 dollars on top of 50 or 70 or 90 bucks a month, that's going to keep thousands of Laker fans from seeing their team play. Who's being selfish there? An extra 5 bucks a month doesn't account for much when you're already paying that high of a bill.

This is all business and if you don't like it, I'm sorry but maybe you don't have much experience in business. Each party is going to do what's best for themselves. They're all to blame as much as they're all blameless. But please continue to ceaselessly bash TWC and mock me.


Do you work for TWC? Do you run a psychic network and know what everyone thinks too? I AM NOT ABLE TO WATCH the (bleep) GAMES!!!!!!! That is why Im pissed. The hell does it have to do with TWC or whoever. Im pissed because I cant watch the games. And they black out the games when it isn't even on any other channel on my service. You get it? GET IT? Quit assuming you know who I am and whether I have been in business.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby therealdeal on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:07 am

I didn't assume anything. I understand why you're upset, but that doesn't excuse passively calling me out for saying it's business and Laker fans should be patient.

No I don't work for TWC and no I'm not a psychic. I don't even know what those statements might mean. They have nothing to do with what I said. If someone here was a psychic it would be you because you've been saying for weeks that this is going to be worse than the NBA lockout and that TWC is evil and all they care about is money.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Snake Eyes on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:30 am

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XXIV wrote:A little over a week until the regular season begins, I'm beginning to think this may not happen until after the season starts.



I believe someone posted that the first three games are Nationally televised, so they have until game 4 to work a deal...


According to this schedule, the first three games are nationally televised on TNT, NBA TV, and ESPN respectively. However, as we all know from Dwight Howard's debut the other night, NBA TV blocks out locals. Unless a deal is reached soon, LA based fans will have not be able to see the second game.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Battle Tested20 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:32 am

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LakerFanIam wrote:
XXIV wrote:A little over a week until the regular season begins, I'm beginning to think this may not happen until after the season starts.



I believe someone posted that the first three games are Nationally televised, so they have until game 4 to work a deal...


According to this schedule, the first three games are nationally televised on TNT, NBA TV, and ESPN respectively. However, as we all know from Dwight Howard's debut the other night, NBA TV blocks out locals. Unless a deal is reached soon, LA based fans will have not be able to see the second game.


Not true, because the 2nd game is @ Portland for their opener. Meaning that NBATV will use there telecast, which means we will get the game. Had the game been @ Staples then yes you would be correct.

With all of this said it will be wise to mute that game and listen to 710 ESPN because there is no bigger homer than one of the Portland announcers (I forgot his name but he's the older looking one).
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby gcclaker on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:39 am

revgen wrote:
CaCHooKa Man wrote:^i cant stand lawler and smith so im glad i have twc sportsnet. but i guess its good for people without the channel yet.


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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby KB8SD on Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:13 pm

Battle Tested20 wrote:
Snake Eyes wrote:
LakerFanIam wrote:
XXIV wrote:A little over a week until the regular season begins, I'm beginning to think this may not happen until after the season starts.



I believe someone posted that the first three games are Nationally televised, so they have until game 4 to work a deal...


According to this schedule, the first three games are nationally televised on TNT, NBA TV, and ESPN respectively. However, as we all know from Dwight Howard's debut the other night, NBA TV blocks out locals. Unless a deal is reached soon, LA based fans will have not be able to see the second game.


Not true, because the 2nd game is @ Portland for their opener. Meaning that NBATV will use there telecast, which means we will get the game. Had the game been @ Staples then yes you would be correct.

With all of this said it will be wise to mute that game and listen to 710 ESPN because there is no bigger homer than one of the Portland announcers (I forgot his name but he's the older looking one).


I think that game will also get blacked to people in the LA & Lakers DMA coverage areas.

Reason being is that the new deal there is only 1 local channel for both road & home games. Not like before in the past with FSN West & KCAL 9.

If NBATV though uses the Blazers regional network to show that game on NBATV then the game might not get blacked out locally.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Snake Eyes on Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:22 pm

Battle Tested20 wrote:
Snake Eyes wrote:
LakerFanIam wrote:
XXIV wrote:A little over a week until the regular season begins, I'm beginning to think this may not happen until after the season starts.



I believe someone posted that the first three games are Nationally televised, so they have until game 4 to work a deal...


According to this schedule, the first three games are nationally televised on TNT, NBA TV, and ESPN respectively. However, as we all know from Dwight Howard's debut the other night, NBA TV blocks out locals. Unless a deal is reached soon, LA based fans will have not be able to see the second game.


Not true, because the 2nd game is @ Portland for their opener. Meaning that NBATV will use there telecast, which means we will get the game. Had the game been @ Staples then yes you would be correct.

With all of this said it will be wise to mute that game and listen to 710 ESPN because there is no bigger homer than one of the Portland announcers (I forgot his name but he's the older looking one).


I hope you are right.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby LakerFan247 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:38 pm

my buddy works for Direct TV, this is a email he received today. so Stoked!!!

http://tinypic.com/r/v6q69j/6
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby XXIV on Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:40 pm

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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby LakerFan247 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:42 pm

there i posted it as a linnk
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby LakerFan247 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:30 pm

He also told me most likely that the deal will get done by Monday
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby JGC on Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:48 pm

OX1947 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
OX1947 wrote:
Johnnyboy wrote:Spoke to Cox today. They said that they can't speculate, BUT they don't think a deal will be done in time for the first game because Cox has "bent over" a ton and TWC won't budge on anything and Cox is willing to play hardball. Not sure how much weight that holds, but that's what they said.


Noooooooo, really? hahahaha. It will be an eventful season ruined by greed and business practices that some will continue to support for the sake of "It's business". I guess, doing the right thing and doing something decent for supporters and customers doesn't mean a hill of beans, you know, because "it's business".

:man10:

Seriously? That's not really veiled because I'm the only one who's used that sentence multiple times... Who's doing the wrong thing? Is TWC wrong for buying the channel? Why is that wrong? They paid an exorbitant amount of money for the rights to the channel. Why shouldn't they ask for something in return? The money they used to pay for the channel is almost directly responsible for the team not worrying about luxury taxes this season. Is that wrong?

Is Cox wrong because they don't want to ask an extra 4-5 dollars a month for the service? An extra 4-5 dollars on top of 50 or 70 or 90 bucks a month, that's going to keep thousands of Laker fans from seeing their team play. Who's being selfish there? An extra 5 bucks a month doesn't account for much when you're already paying that high of a bill.

This is all business and if you don't like it, I'm sorry but maybe you don't have much experience in business. Each party is going to do what's best for themselves. They're all to blame as much as they're all blameless. But please continue to ceaselessly bash TWC and mock me.


Do you work for TWC? Do you run a psychic network and know what everyone thinks too? I AM NOT ABLE TO WATCH the (bleep) GAMES!!!!!!! That is why Im pissed. The hell does it have to do with TWC or whoever. Im pissed because I cant watch the games. And they black out the games when it isn't even on any other channel on my service. You get it? GET IT? Quit assuming you know who I am and whether I have been in business.


So you're mad at the Lakers because what they have done means you can't watch games? What is being mad doing to help the situation?
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby OX1947 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:50 pm

JGC wrote:
OX1947 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
OX1947 wrote:
Johnnyboy wrote:Spoke to Cox today. They said that they can't speculate, BUT they don't think a deal will be done in time for the first game because Cox has "bent over" a ton and TWC won't budge on anything and Cox is willing to play hardball. Not sure how much weight that holds, but that's what they said.


Noooooooo, really? hahahaha. It will be an eventful season ruined by greed and business practices that some will continue to support for the sake of "It's business". I guess, doing the right thing and doing something decent for supporters and customers doesn't mean a hill of beans, you know, because "it's business".

:man10:

Seriously? That's not really veiled because I'm the only one who's used that sentence multiple times... Who's doing the wrong thing? Is TWC wrong for buying the channel? Why is that wrong? They paid an exorbitant amount of money for the rights to the channel. Why shouldn't they ask for something in return? The money they used to pay for the channel is almost directly responsible for the team not worrying about luxury taxes this season. Is that wrong?

Is Cox wrong because they don't want to ask an extra 4-5 dollars a month for the service? An extra 4-5 dollars on top of 50 or 70 or 90 bucks a month, that's going to keep thousands of Laker fans from seeing their team play. Who's being selfish there? An extra 5 bucks a month doesn't account for much when you're already paying that high of a bill.

This is all business and if you don't like it, I'm sorry but maybe you don't have much experience in business. Each party is going to do what's best for themselves. They're all to blame as much as they're all blameless. But please continue to ceaselessly bash TWC and mock me.


Do you work for TWC? Do you run a psychic network and know what everyone thinks too? I AM NOT ABLE TO WATCH the (bleep) GAMES!!!!!!! That is why Im pissed. The hell does it have to do with TWC or whoever. Im pissed because I cant watch the games. And they black out the games when it isn't even on any other channel on my service. You get it? GET IT? Quit assuming you know who I am and whether I have been in business.


So you're mad at the Lakers because what they have done means you can't watch games? What is being mad doing to help the situation?


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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby NewDynasty on Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:30 pm

Verizon better be getting this done as well or im dumping them for direct tv
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Lakerjones on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:08 pm

LakerFan247 wrote:my buddy works for Direct TV, this is a email he received today. so Stoked!!!

http://tinypic.com/r/v6q69j/6


I truly hope that DirecTV does come to an agreement before the 31st. But I'm not holding my breath. I'm hopeful though. It would be in everyone's best interests, including my own!
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby chraum on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:21 pm

I just got verizon, the lady told me they want to get it by the end of the year. I was totally put off but right now i switched to them to lower my cost. Im going to have to just pirate my way to view them. Someone should make a campaign about how TWC made us do illegal things so we can get our Lakers! Make them look bad to the general public. Bad PR for them.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby JGC on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:33 pm

chraum wrote:I just got verizon, the lady told me they want to get it by the end of the year. I was totally put off but right now i switched to them to lower my cost. Im going to have to just pirate my way to view them. Someone should make a campaign about how TWC made us do illegal things so we can get our Lakers! Make them look bad to the general public. Bad PR for them.


I highly doubt end of the year. It's going to be beginning of the season, or not at all this season.

It wouldn't make sense for them to do it at the end of the year.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Johnnyboy on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:52 pm

OX1947 wrote:
Johnnyboy wrote:Spoke to Cox today. They said that they can't speculate, BUT they don't think a deal will be done in time for the first game because Cox has "bent over" a ton and TWC won't budge on anything and Cox is willing to play hardball. Not sure how much weight that holds, but that's what they said.


Noooooooo, really? hahahaha. It will be an eventful season ruined by greed and business practices that some will continue to support for the sake of "It's business". I guess, doing the right thing and doing something decent for supporters and customers doesn't mean a hill of beans, you know, because "it's business".


How about thanks for the update? Until recently Cox had been telling people they were confident a deal would be done by the end of the month.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby Johnnyboy on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:01 pm

therealdeal wrote:
OX1947 wrote:
Johnnyboy wrote:Spoke to Cox today. They said that they can't speculate, BUT they don't think a deal will be done in time for the first game because Cox has "bent over" a ton and TWC won't budge on anything and Cox is willing to play hardball. Not sure how much weight that holds, but that's what they said.


Noooooooo, really? hahahaha. It will be an eventful season ruined by greed and business practices that some will continue to support for the sake of "It's business". I guess, doing the right thing and doing something decent for supporters and customers doesn't mean a hill of beans, you know, because "it's business".

:man10:

Seriously? That's not really veiled because I'm the only one who's used that sentence multiple times... Who's doing the wrong thing? Is TWC wrong for buying the channel? Why is that wrong? They paid an exorbitant amount of money for the rights to the channel. Why shouldn't they ask for something in return? The money they used to pay for the channel is almost directly responsible for the team not worrying about luxury taxes this season. Is that wrong?

Is Cox wrong because they don't want to ask an extra 4-5 dollars a month for the service? An extra 4-5 dollars on top of 50 or 70 or 90 bucks a month, that's going to keep thousands of Laker fans from seeing their team play. Who's being selfish there? An extra 5 bucks a month doesn't account for much when you're already paying that high of a bill.

This is all business and if you don't like it, I'm sorry but maybe you don't have much experience in business. Each party is going to do what's best for themselves. They're all to blame as much as they're all blameless. But please continue to ceaselessly bash TWC and mock me.


Cable bills around here are not 50, 70 or 90. It's much more than that. People are not angry about $5. Its the principal. TWC is asking EVERYONE that suscribes to cox to pay. Or at least they were early on. Cox is supposed to charge non Laker viewers more money? When they are already paying Well over $100? So the Lakers are like HBO? Showtime? If you let people walk on you, they will. TWC and Cox are both being greedy. TWC should bite $1.50 and so should Cox. Most peoples quick rebuttal is "well TWC paid a ton, they need to make money back" blah blah blah.....They make most of their money from advertising. Lakers and everyone else pay a boatload to advertise on the network.
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby ramsay13 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:09 pm

Any news on Dish and TWC reaching a deal?
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Re: TWC and Lakers Sign Long-Term Agreement for Lakers Games

Postby OX1947 on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:10 pm

Johnnyboy wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
OX1947 wrote:
Johnnyboy wrote:Spoke to Cox today. They said that they can't speculate, BUT they don't think a deal will be done in time for the first game because Cox has "bent over" a ton and TWC won't budge on anything and Cox is willing to play hardball. Not sure how much weight that holds, but that's what they said.


Noooooooo, really? hahahaha. It will be an eventful season ruined by greed and business practices that some will continue to support for the sake of "It's business". I guess, doing the right thing and doing something decent for supporters and customers doesn't mean a hill of beans, you know, because "it's business".

:man10:

Seriously? That's not really veiled because I'm the only one who's used that sentence multiple times... Who's doing the wrong thing? Is TWC wrong for buying the channel? Why is that wrong? They paid an exorbitant amount of money for the rights to the channel. Why shouldn't they ask for something in return? The money they used to pay for the channel is almost directly responsible for the team not worrying about luxury taxes this season. Is that wrong?

Is Cox wrong because they don't want to ask an extra 4-5 dollars a month for the service? An extra 4-5 dollars on top of 50 or 70 or 90 bucks a month, that's going to keep thousands of Laker fans from seeing their team play. Who's being selfish there? An extra 5 bucks a month doesn't account for much when you're already paying that high of a bill.

This is all business and if you don't like it, I'm sorry but maybe you don't have much experience in business. Each party is going to do what's best for themselves. They're all to blame as much as they're all blameless. But please continue to ceaselessly bash TWC and mock me.


Cable bills around here are not 50, 70 or 90. It's much more than that. People are not angry about $5. Its the principal. TWC is asking EVERYONE that suscribes to cox to pay. Or at least they were early on. Cox is supposed to charge non Laker viewers more money? When they are already paying Well over $100? So the Lakers are like HBO? Showtime? If you let people walk on you, they will. TWC and Cox are both being greedy. TWC should bite $1.50 and so should Cox. Most people quick rebuttal is "well TWC paid a ton, they need to make money back" blah blah blah.....They make most of their money from advertising. Lakers and everyone else pay a boatload to advertise on the network.


Exactly. The fact that TWC wants to gouge people who do not care about the Lakers is the whole point of my argument. Directv, for example, wants to put it on a tier, TWC wants it on the regular set up so that they can buttram god knows how many people who wont care for the channel. 3.95 per month per subscriber. Why? Why would you try and do something like that if you aren't a greedy little (bleep). That has been my argument all this time. Had TWC given the channel to those who want it, deals would be done. And you know TWC knows those who arent following the news of the TWC Sportsnet channel, will one month look at their bill and see that it is higher for no reason but having their garbage service. But hey, it's business right? Let's (bleep) people without them knowing. No one will notice the 3.95 extra a month on their bill. They will think it was a higher tax or something. That MO sounds so familiar doesnt it. Kinda how business was done before the crash of 2008, hmmmm, but, HEY, it's business.
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